Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

30 days only

Advisable to pay for childcare for 1 year old if dh on 70% pay, i am on 40k and we have mortgage £1250 in London

221 replies

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 07:41

Dh is on long term sick leave for complex medical reasons but he does care for our son now- changes his nappies, takes him out to give me a break, cooks his meals. He is on 70% of his previous income (75k) which works out to 50k. I was made redundant just before i got pregnant, worked a contract role during pregnancy and just got a new role paying less than what i previously earned (40k). Not happy with it but the job market is terrible and we have dipped far too much into savings due to dh's sick leave.

2 days at childcare would be around £300 with free hours (employees on sick leave qualify). Our mortgage is £1250 for a 2 bed flat. No student loans so take home around £5900..

Aibu to think we could save on childcare during this tight time or am i being stingy? Or is baby better off with his dad than a nursery worker though it may contribute to burnout. One thing is baby is still boob obsessed so one benefit of his father caring for him is dh says he will take him to my office during lunch breaks.

OP posts:
Goldengirl123 · 17/06/2026 08:56

Why does the child need to go to nursery when its father is home?

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 08:58

Poppingby · 17/06/2026 08:43

Classic Mumsnet, telling the working mother of a small baby whose husband is really sick and mortgage is large that her family's way of managing it all is like a representation of all that is morally wrong with the world of work.

You can't change insurance from the bottom up. You don't owe your workplace your health. There are future career issues which I'm quite sure are at the front of the op and her H's mind but ultimately this is somebody just trying to manage a difficult situation.

As somebody who stayed at home with my kids for a few years I know childcare is not relaxing or easy but it is not the same kind of work as employment. I don't know the details of the H's illness - just as noone else on this thread does - so it's a matter for him and you whether he can and should manage it and what the balance between that and financial difficulty is.

Thank you for this. My mortgage isnt huge for london so i thought worth mentioning it. Its 20% of combined take home.

Tbh its because we dont have any financial support from family thats why dh ended up on sick leave. He is genuinely ill but i bet a lot of people out there trying to hack it. But for us the risk is too great of being 1 income down with the job market being the way it is.

Even with capability to work processes it will take months. And also protected under equality act, need to offer reasonable adjustments before termination. Dh has been there since 2023 so protected from unfair dismissal. As for redundancy, payout at least 3 months.

OP posts:
SummerDive · 17/06/2026 08:59

I’m 😳😳 that you think someone who has been deemed unfit to work (hence receiving the insurrance payout) can look after a toddler tbh.

I oersonally have an issue with FND (because I feel it’s more likely a misdiagnosis - ie the ‘rigut’ tests haven’t been done). But it doesn’t change your dh is UNWELL.
Yes he can try to look after baby. But what will be the consequence on his health ??

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 08:59

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 08:56

Are you sure about the nursery costs? You should qualify for about 21hrs a week free. Ask around at other nurseries and childminders?

I don’t think it’d be healthy to be in all of the time with a toddler when unwell. Presumably your DH wouldn’t be doing toddler classes and many enrichment activities.

I do qualify for it. Its £300 per month for 2 days

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2026 09:02

I am shocked that any company could and would pay sick pay of £50k a year for 5years 🙀🙀🙀

but be fine with them doing fulltime childcare

if finds the job stressful maybe look for a different role or what will change in 4yrs time and the pay stops tho at £250k that’s pretty amazing

what is his long term plan

equally if that wasn’t the sick pay and was on ssp would dh manage to do some work each day ……

I think on that sort of money carry on paying for childcare for 2days a week to give your dh a break and so dc can socialise as doubt dh will be taking dd out every day doing stuff /seeing other toddlers etc

as he will be doing 3 days by himself anyway. Is that right ?

Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 09:03

Goldengirl123 · 17/06/2026 08:56

Why does the child need to go to nursery when its father is home?

You don’t see a difference between being on sick leave and just not working?

SummerDive · 17/06/2026 09:03

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 08:58

Thank you for this. My mortgage isnt huge for london so i thought worth mentioning it. Its 20% of combined take home.

Tbh its because we dont have any financial support from family thats why dh ended up on sick leave. He is genuinely ill but i bet a lot of people out there trying to hack it. But for us the risk is too great of being 1 income down with the job market being the way it is.

Even with capability to work processes it will take months. And also protected under equality act, need to offer reasonable adjustments before termination. Dh has been there since 2023 so protected from unfair dismissal. As for redundancy, payout at least 3 months.

YAt. But that’s tge reality of being a couple where one oersonally is chronically ill.
Your dh won’t get better just because numbers don’t add up.

fwiw I’m the one who is chronically ill.
Ive looked after my dcs when they were little despite being ill. I would not recommend it to anyone. I lived on survival mode all if that time and, as a Result, have no memories of my dcs childhood. I was literally concentration too much on puttimg one foot in front of the other. Not just struggling iyswim.

Mumoftwoteenagers · 17/06/2026 09:06

I think people with a baby underestimate how hard work a toddler is. This is one of the reasons that “granny day care” often fails.

Granny thinks that she will be fine taking on the sweet little angel that stays still in their cot and demands nothing more than food, nappy changes and cuddles.

Instead by the time mum goes back to work Granny is left with an adorable hell-demon who seems fully able to eat the cat food, draw all over the walls and scale the bookcase like it is a ladder in the time it takes for Granny to attempt to pick up the building blocks that have just been thrown across the lounge.

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:07

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2026 09:02

I am shocked that any company could and would pay sick pay of £50k a year for 5years 🙀🙀🙀

but be fine with them doing fulltime childcare

if finds the job stressful maybe look for a different role or what will change in 4yrs time and the pay stops tho at £250k that’s pretty amazing

what is his long term plan

equally if that wasn’t the sick pay and was on ssp would dh manage to do some work each day ……

I think on that sort of money carry on paying for childcare for 2days a week to give your dh a break and so dc can socialise as doubt dh will be taking dd out every day doing stuff /seeing other toddlers etc

as he will be doing 3 days by himself anyway. Is that right ?

He does take the baby out regularly. Mainly to cafes and playgrounds. Often did that to give me a break.

OP posts:
gotmyselfintoapickle · 17/06/2026 09:07

honeylulu · 17/06/2026 08:40

Surely to some extent it depends on the parent and their situation. A child with an unwell burnt out parent may well benefit from some time at nursery, as well as quality care giving time with both parents(which would be the case here).

Also may depend on the child. I had two very "busy" children who were desperate for stimulation and company and they definitely got a lot out of nursery even from a young age. I accept the same may not be true for less gregarious children.

Both mine were at nursery before 1 year so I admit I'm being defensive! They're secondary/uni age now and it doesn't seem to have done them, or our bond, any harm.

In this situation even one day childcare would give the unwell husband a bit of a break.

Edited

I think it will definitely vary from child to child, from parent to parent and from nursery to nursery!

I don't feel remotely guilty about sending my kids to nursery at 1yo, it was necessary and they are very happy kids (and very lucky kids in my humble opinion!)

I think it's fine to acknowledge that a certain set up is optimal for the child on a population level (ie. at home with an engaged, capable, happy parent) but also to make compromises and choose something slightly different for your family. Either because you think your child might benefit from slightly different things, or indeed just out of necessity.

I found being at home with small kids very challenging and I was perfectly healthy so I can imagine the OP's husband might find it difficult.

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 09:08

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 08:59

I do qualify for it. Its £300 per month for 2 days

So you’re proposing to put the child in full time? Can’t you put the child in nursery for 3 or 4 days and your DH can pick up the rest?

If it’s £300 for two days on top of the free hours and tax free childcare you’re going for an extremely expensive option, and there will be cheaper ones around.

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:09

Mumoftwoteenagers · 17/06/2026 09:06

I think people with a baby underestimate how hard work a toddler is. This is one of the reasons that “granny day care” often fails.

Granny thinks that she will be fine taking on the sweet little angel that stays still in their cot and demands nothing more than food, nappy changes and cuddles.

Instead by the time mum goes back to work Granny is left with an adorable hell-demon who seems fully able to eat the cat food, draw all over the walls and scale the bookcase like it is a ladder in the time it takes for Granny to attempt to pick up the building blocks that have just been thrown across the lounge.

Yes thats what i am worried about. My baby is pretty active now so i take him to a community centre near me which is £5 from 9 to 4 ( with free soup) and has a huge room with lots of toys.

OP posts:
Viviennemary · 17/06/2026 09:09

It really isn't feasible for somebody on long term sick leave to be forced to care for a young child full time. Sick leave is to aid recovery and give the mind and body a chance to rest and recover and I doubt this will. Its a mad idea.

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:11

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 09:08

So you’re proposing to put the child in full time? Can’t you put the child in nursery for 3 or 4 days and your DH can pick up the rest?

If it’s £300 for two days on top of the free hours and tax free childcare you’re going for an extremely expensive option, and there will be cheaper ones around.

I went for that one as its near dh's work and if he does get called back into work, we can manage that easily. I havent included tax free childcare. Its £240 per month under that.

Both work in central london and need an easy place for pickup if both working till 6

OP posts:
Honeyhonay · 17/06/2026 09:14

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 09:08

So you’re proposing to put the child in full time? Can’t you put the child in nursery for 3 or 4 days and your DH can pick up the rest?

If it’s £300 for two days on top of the free hours and tax free childcare you’re going for an extremely expensive option, and there will be cheaper ones around.

I read it as the DH would be caring for the child for 3 days and the £300 is to stretchy the funded hours into 2 full days?

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 09:18

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:11

I went for that one as its near dh's work and if he does get called back into work, we can manage that easily. I havent included tax free childcare. Its £240 per month under that.

Both work in central london and need an easy place for pickup if both working till 6

You can change providers if and when he goes back to work though.

I think it’d be better to use (cheap) childcare now and let him focus on his recovery, at least a few days a week.

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:19

GahGahGahGah · 17/06/2026 09:18

You can change providers if and when he goes back to work though.

I think it’d be better to use (cheap) childcare now and let him focus on his recovery, at least a few days a week.

Difficulty with finding places

OP posts:
ToddlerMum7473244w · 17/06/2026 09:32

1 year olds are A LOT more difficult to care for than a baby, physically. They run run run and climb and throw themselves of high surfaces. Seriously, the dangers that toddlers can get themselves into are mind-blowing.

I would not expect a sick man to be able to keep him safe.

GreatOffWhiteFalcon · 17/06/2026 09:33

Jellycatspyjamas · 17/06/2026 08:13

You can’t see how someone might not be able to work but can care for their own child? I don’t know any parent on sick leave who can hive off all childcare - what do you think single parents do when their child isn’t in care? What a ridiculous position to take.

He's on long term sick leave. It isn't something like flu which is horrible to deal with whilst doing childcare, but you know will get better after a week or so. He needs proper time to rest and recover before his generous sick pay ends, so he can get back to work.

Caterina99 · 17/06/2026 09:33

I would use childcare.

Taking the baby to the park the give you a break is not the same as looking after a toddler all day every day. It is tiring.

I was a sahm (and in full health) and we paid for toddler to go to nursery 2 mornings a week for my sanity. Presumably it doesn’t have to be full time childcare? but surely if your DH is too ill to work then he’s too ill to care full time for an active child?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/06/2026 09:33

Would you be able to look at having nursery for a half day every day, and your DH could then rest that part of the day and have your/ his child in the afternoons?

PurpleThistle7 · 17/06/2026 09:34

I think the issue here is his health and the actual practicalities of looking after a toddler full time - it's much harder than a baby in a lot of ways, and I'd be really concerned about the safety aspect. I don't think that's a great plan for recovery if you have literally any other option.

You're in a pretty amazing situation with his salary for not working and I'd very much want to prioritise his health - for your life if not for returning to work.

Chipsahoy · 17/06/2026 09:39

Why would you or dh think this is ok? A baby is so utterly dependent. You can’t be letting him care for your baby alone when he’s has brain fog and he has memory issues and seizures? Put baby in nursery then you work.

Babyboomtastic · 17/06/2026 09:47

You may be able to look after a baby, but what about the toddler or a preschooler?

It's far more active, far less downtime and often far more stressful. If you have brain fog and forget where you've put the baby, your baby will still be there (or nearby). Do the same for a toddler and it might well be wandering along a main road.

Toddler having some nursery time and some time with your husband is the more sensible plan. At least try doing half and half for a few months, reassess when your baby is 18 months, so much more toddler and your husband has had six months of doing 50% child care. If he finds toddler's fine, if it's not making his illness worse and he feels that he can up the hours, do it then.

Oneanddonemum2025 · 17/06/2026 09:48

Chipsahoy · 17/06/2026 09:39

Why would you or dh think this is ok? A baby is so utterly dependent. You can’t be letting him care for your baby alone when he’s has brain fog and he has memory issues and seizures? Put baby in nursery then you work.

We also need to prioritize the roof over baby's head. We only have 24k in savings due to sick leave and me being on maternity allowance for a year so it was eroded. So every bit of building up savings helps. Our mortgage is 1250 m, not huge but still a consideration. Its 20% of post tax income (including sick pay) which is now massive with a baby on top.
He hasnt had seizures for years.

OP posts: