Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!

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It’s all happening! 3 charity visits coming up!

I thought H looked good. His shoes & jeans. Wasn’t sure about the open necked shirt, but it suppose it’s not a formal event?

Quite! None of us have stooped to that level, yet we're being criticized!

Nottingham 2017 😬

I suppose, as the King's son, he could be royal with a small r?

The Military used to paint everything before Royalty arrived including boulders edging the grass.

To make up for it, he can have a capital T.

For his wat.

The letter was from the Lord Chamberlain's, not the king. It was about procedure for government departments and charities. It easn't for the press or the public. As the UK has a free press, they can cover what they like, within the strictures of the law (preferably). They cover HaM because they're newsworthy, and one of the reasons they are newsworthy is because some people see them as royals, letter or not.

Heritage Library🤣

I think there was always going to be press interest in the pair of them together doing a whatever this is.

They might think it shows that they are still popular & therefore worth giving money to in some capacity?

Idk!

No I suppose it wasn't an "official" allocation, but 4 of them turned up, according to Tom Sykes, ex RR, who was reporting a live stream. Possibly more than turned up for the actual royal event in Wales today. He says this was being covered by them in the same style the RR would cover a royal event - a select pool going into the event, pooled copy, pooled photographs etc.

He's been speaking to Duncan Larcombe (founder member of the RR) and Robert Jobson this afternoon, who said this event, its coverage by royal reporters and royal style of execution (walkabouts etc)is making a mockery of the Sandringham agreement (both were highly critical and mystified about them still being on the royal website). Jobson is calling it a rival royal court by stealth and half in half out in effect, all being facilitated by slavish coverage by the legacy media. It doesn't matter if it's actually crap, as they get the fame and column inches they want anyway,

I watched some of Sykes' coverage, and he's been pretty scathing about how it all went down. He was speaking to the few people in the crowd, who were in the main treating this as a royal visit. I think a royal is a royal is a royal to many who will have no idea what the Lord Chamberlain said or meant. Sykes said there was little knowledge amongst the crowd of what the Sussexes have done. It looked pretty dismal too. Press far outnumbering onlookers, save for the 3rd event, but even that he described as being full of randomers - curious onlookers rather than fans. On the other hand, Meghan wore clothes and said she's, "Happy to be back" which will make all the headlines🙄and nobody was booing them - unlike Charles in Wales who had the "Not My King" crowd shouting at him. I think we can guess who will be on the front pages tomorrow.

But can't you just see the look on her face if she gets offers for 'leading lady's coworker' or even worse 'leading lady's mum'? After all, at 45 she's old enough to have a 20 year old.

God, no. That wouldn’t go down well with the young mother at all…

No I suppose it wasn't an "official" allocation, but 4 of them turned up, according to Tom Sykes, ex RR, who was reporting a live stream. Possibly more than turned up for the actual royal event in Wales today

I'd imagine so, because the whole point of the royal rota is that only one journalist and photographer cover the entire event!

Yes so I gather. Good for them that the Harry and Meghan Worldwide Privacy Tour is giving them something to do rather than sitting at their desks twiddling their thumbs.

I've just watched some of the footage from today, and it's just made me feel increasingly cross that King Charles hasn't put a stop to this. H & M have had more coverage than he and Camilla had today.

They were to all intents mimicking a royal visit while not being part of the Royal Family. The life that I thought that they really didn't want to have.

I'm afraid not, @ShamedBySiri. I only knew about someone visiting nearby businesses to drum up bystanders because of a friend who works at one of them, but I've never visited their workplace myself so wouldn't even know the names of the local schools

So MM used to complain that she couldn’t believe she didn’t get paid for walkabouts and clearly didn’t enjoy the more mundane Royal activities, but she had a nice house, staff and security she didn’t have to pay for and lots of perks. And now she’s back doing walkabouts which she dislikes, but this time not only is she not getting paid she also has to try and earn living at the same time, pay for her staff and security and presumably eventually pay for a house (unless her and Harry are going to scrounge off richer people than them forever). Yeah they’re really winning, aren’t they?

I said this earlier and was told what could he do, arrest them? The point is when he has them to tea it supports their 'we are royal and vips' showing off.

He needs to just write them off, go nc and remove their titles. They are absolutely taking the piss.

I doubt it. Hospitals don't allow flowers any more. The days of vases which the student nurses got to scrub at weekends are long gone.

Perhaps the age-old (and until now largely extinct) technique of trying to get an unwelcome thread deleted?

It used to work, and largely because people engaged and threads turned into a bunfight, which is why it's probably worth just ignoring

I'm not a great royalist. But the point is a 'working royal' carries out duties as a representative of the King who is Head of State. Harry and Meghan ard no longer deemed to represent the King. So why are they carrying out royal duties. I wonder if they will push on regardless.

I know it has been said so many times before but it WOULD absolutely make a difference removing their titles and fgs, remove them from the website !!! Tom S is spot on. Not many people can differentiate between a working and non working royal

Not many people can differentiate between a working and non working royal

It was clear that some bystanders attending today struggled.

Do you know @Lifestooshort71 I agree with you here. No-one can say he is not royal , because he is the King's son. That will never change . I think of him as royal family (small r small f). I think I am right in saying that only those working are capital R capital F. This is shamelessly googled " Prince Harry is a small r royal ("royal") because he is born into the royal family but is no longer a capital R Royal("Royal") as he does not perform official duties or work as a senior working royal" I'm happy if someone contradicts me on that.

Oh well. After today , I do think he liked the capital R royalness . I suspect M did also except when she didn't.

I have read comments from @IcedPurple and ( apologies if I am misrepresenting you ) Why would they have given up what they could have had , and then come back to do a poundshop version , if their massive money making schemes weren't working. I don't know.

What I would say is , being a member of the WRF includes the balcony , the Cenotaph , Trooping of the Colour , Govt approved tours , inter alia. I think that was their idea of HIHO.
Which to paraphrase Henry Reed "In their case they have not got"

Perhaps the age-old (and until now largely extinct) technique of trying to get an unwelcome thread deleted?

Very likely that by luring people in to speculate and make remarks. Fortunately people are wise to that and shut it down.