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Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!

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jeffgoldblum · 13/10/2026 23:36

It’s all happening! 3 charity visits coming up!

Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!
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MonetsLilac · Today 17:13

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:10

What? It’s not me saying she hasn’t got a womb, it’s nut jobs on Daily Mail’s/ Express’s FB. There’s this mad conspiracy that the kids don’t exist or are played by actors. I’m not saying it, I’m using it as evidence to show there is an unhealthy obsession with the woman based on racism and the papers use it to get clicks and profit.

Maybe don't repeat it on here.

HoldMyWine · Today 17:13

Hilary Rose’s thoughts
Harry and Meghan: ‘Look how royal we are!’ (on our not royal visit)

https://www.thetimes.com/article/1b247d4e-3b14-4d4f-a3bd-a675f945b2f7?shareToken=26b0682baa06a9eb3e0012ac31bb9bde

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:16

bluegreygreen · Today 16:59

Those topics are not encouraged on these threads; those of us who are regular posters try to keep the threads clear both of conspiracy theories and unpleasant comments that break Talk guidelines.

It would be good if you did not introduce them on to the thread.

They are out there and it’s significant that this is the sort of misogynistic, racist gibberish directed at Meghan. Those comments are on Daily Mail and Express administrated posts and never taken down or deleted.

swedishrhapsody · Today 17:16

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:10

What? It’s not me saying she hasn’t got a womb, it’s nut jobs on Daily Mail’s/ Express’s FB. There’s this mad conspiracy that the kids don’t exist or are played by actors. I’m not saying it, I’m using it as evidence to show there is an unhealthy obsession with the woman based on racism and the papers use it to get clicks and profit.

You’ve chosen to post it here when no-one has mentioned it. Does that make you, as you’ve called others who have mentioned it, a ‘nut job’ too?

You are perpetuating it.

Fuck all to do with racism. Everything to do with making women feel less than.

Shame on you for bringing that here.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 17:17

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:10

What? It’s not me saying she hasn’t got a womb, it’s nut jobs on Daily Mail’s/ Express’s FB. There’s this mad conspiracy that the kids don’t exist or are played by actors. I’m not saying it, I’m using it as evidence to show there is an unhealthy obsession with the woman based on racism and the papers use it to get clicks and profit.

Then take your complaints to the publications you have mentioned, don’t start dripping that nonsense here.

MonetsLilac · Today 17:17

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:16

They are out there and it’s significant that this is the sort of misogynistic, racist gibberish directed at Meghan. Those comments are on Daily Mail and Express administrated posts and never taken down or deleted.

Complain to those papers then, don't bring that nonsense over here.

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:18

MonetsLilac · Today 17:13

Maybe don't repeat it on here.

Why not? It’s happening. If it was anyone else it would be called cyber bullying.

LongGinShortTonic · Today 17:19

You beat me to it @HoldMyWine - what an article! Brilliant.

I’ve been watching events unfold today with an appalled eye. Why on earth would a member of the public kiss her hand? Why would Harry think it at all appropriate to tickle someone’s beard? Where did those children come from? If mine were used as props for something like this I’d be incandescent with rage. Why on earth did the Beeb rank this nonsense above the King and Queen’s visit to Wales?

In other more positive news, my Bonne Maman advent calendar was delivered today.

Cismyfatarse · Today 17:19

Love Hilary Rose. Hilarious and superbly written.

BasiliskStare · Today 17:20

@SevenYellowHammers . Just to back up @bluegreygreen , consipracy theories about the children about the children are not encouraged on these threads. Indeed mostly any discussion about the children is not encouraged on these threads.
I'd like you to point me to any discussion of Meghan based on racism on these threads , because if you won't report it I will.
If you have a problem with the readership of the Express or the Mail , take it up with them. Or quote the racist article and I'm sure you would have many on here who would support you. I would.

cross post with @MonetsLilac

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:20

MonetsLilac · Today 17:17

Complain to those papers then, don't bring that nonsense over here.

I report them. They never get taken down. Facebook is a disgrace. Completely racist now.

MonetsLilac · Today 17:20

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:18

Why not? It’s happening. If it was anyone else it would be called cyber bullying.

Well, because no-one on here appreciates or supprts it. I've never seen those claims but then I don't read those kinds of papers.
If you do, and you're reading it, then complain.

MonetsLilac · Today 17:20

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:20

I report them. They never get taken down. Facebook is a disgrace. Completely racist now.

I've never been on Facebook.

BasiliskStare · Today 17:23

@SevenYellowHammers I appreciate your point but I don't think you can expect MN to fix FB.

Kingsandqueenz · Today 17:23

HoldMyWine · Today 17:13

Hilary Rose’s thoughts
Harry and Meghan: ‘Look how royal we are!’ (on our not royal visit)

https://www.thetimes.com/article/1b247d4e-3b14-4d4f-a3bd-a675f945b2f7?shareToken=26b0682baa06a9eb3e0012ac31bb9bde

Hilary Rose telling it as it is! Truths!
Thanks for sharing @HoldMyWine

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 17:25

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:10

What? It’s not me saying she hasn’t got a womb, it’s nut jobs on Daily Mail’s/ Express’s FB. There’s this mad conspiracy that the kids don’t exist or are played by actors. I’m not saying it, I’m using it as evidence to show there is an unhealthy obsession with the woman based on racism and the papers use it to get clicks and profit.

How does it relate to racism? Sure, there are nutjobs who spout all sorts of things about all sorts of people in various places on the internet. I mean, when Catherine had stomach surgery, which it later transpired also became a cancer diagnosis, even though there had been an announcement that she would take some months out for health reasons, instead of respecting her private health issues, the response and bizarre conspiracy theories not just from nutters online but even supposedly respectable media was insane. Some thought William had done away with her or that he was having an affair and that's why she had disappeared - even Stephen Colbert repeated that garbage on his show. The media - even outlets that should know better, such as Reuters or Getty pictures or Instagram - had a frenzy over her slightly edited Mothering Sunday pic (as though every other photo posted on social media isn't edited), with suggestions by supposedly serious media that the whole pic had been doctored to make it seem as though she still existed, the implication in some quarters being that something had happened to her, some even implying that William had offed her.

There was all sorts of crazy stuff put out by the Sussex Squad, such as William had killed Thomas Kingston, Lady Gabriella Windsor's late husband. There were even doctored images of William supposedly sporting a black eye that the Sussex Squad were circulating as evidence that he had been in a fight with Kingston!

As for Harry and Meghan's kids, some people have said they don't exist and things like that. Of course, that is absolute nonsense, but they have been so weird about hiding their kids that it allowed conspiracy nonsense to fester. More to the point, that kind of stuff doesn't fly here. If you want to argue with people who say those kinds of things, go to the places where they gather.

IdaGlossop · Today 17:27

swedishrhapsody · Today 16:03

For those of a nervous disposition - you see nowt but an inelegant dismount from a vehicle.

(The image is under review)

Edited

It is the twin of Catherine climbing out of a car in red, on the way to meet a visiting head of state. There was a lot of gushing coverage about her legs. I hope there isn't lots of negative coverage about Meghan's legs because it would start up the racist discussion again.

bluegreygreen · Today 17:29

SevenYellowHammers · Today 17:16

They are out there and it’s significant that this is the sort of misogynistic, racist gibberish directed at Meghan. Those comments are on Daily Mail and Express administrated posts and never taken down or deleted.

The comments may be out there; we are not responsible for what is out there. We are responsible only for comments that we make ourselves.

On these threads we do not discuss conspiracy theories about the children.
We also do not use racist or misogynistic language.

For the third time, please refrain from referring to conspiracy theories about the children.

If you see racist or misogynistic language, that will break the Talk guidelines so you are welcome to report it.

Wedgewood · Today 17:29

Why were school children there on a school day? FOIs/SARs need to be made ti find out what the school heads were thinking, allowing kids to miss lessons to gawp at a pair of private citizens.

Why was the royal rota there? Do they generally cover the events of private citizens?

Mylovelygreendress · Today 17:30

Thanks @HoldMyWine . Love Hilary Rose’s articles .
As an aside, did anyone notice if they only had their own security today ?

MonetsLilac · Today 17:31

bluegreygreen · Today 17:29

The comments may be out there; we are not responsible for what is out there. We are responsible only for comments that we make ourselves.

On these threads we do not discuss conspiracy theories about the children.
We also do not use racist or misogynistic language.

For the third time, please refrain from referring to conspiracy theories about the children.

If you see racist or misogynistic language, that will break the Talk guidelines so you are welcome to report it.

Thank you 🙏🏼

swedishrhapsody · Today 17:32

Apparently they had their own security and local police were advised of their presence.

Place was heaving with them all.

Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!
TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 17:32

SevenYellowHammers · Today 16:53

I have not come across a better explanation for the hatred of Meghan, to be honest. Look at all that crazy nonsense that she has no womb and then the stuff Clarkson said. I can’t see how she’s any worse than any other royal or celebrity. And when you see that stuff laid side by side from the Mail and Express where things her and Katherine done are the same but Meghan gets the hate, it is truly chilling. If it’s not racism it’s profiteering on the racism of the readership of those papers.

It’s unfortunate that the subjects you’ve mentioned aren’t spoken about here and should someone new come along and bring them up they’re asked no to, or they’re reported.

On the plus side though it does make it very easy to tell the difference between genuine new posters and those with ulterior motives.

Serenster · Today 17:35

Why was the royal rota there? Do they generally cover the events of private citizens?

The Rota is made up of Royal reporters who cover royal family members. If they are not allocated by the Rota system to be the single press representative to cover a particular event for a working Royal Family member, they are free agents to cover anything anyone else in the family are doing.

School kids coming out to see the nearby Prince/Princess is pretty common practice as far as I’m aware!

(And the Lord Chancellor’s letter didn’t say Meghan and Harry are private citizens, it said they are “akin to private citizens”. A small but subtle difference there)

ShamedBySiri · Today 17:37

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 12:42

In fairness they didn't know if the guy was part of H&M's machine or not, but I'm told he didn't exactly look like an excited bystander keen to spread the news ... more like someone vaguely official (and with some sort of earpiece)

They didn't get a chance to clock him again after he left though, because nobody took up his invitation

Are you able to identify the schools which interrupted their pupils' education to cheer private citizens? I intend to do an FOI to Nottingham City Education Dept regarding parent permissions and the line of decision making.

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