Ham pr disasters thread 47! …it’s all so quiet…it’s all so still ….

[jeffgoldblum]

Still interested! , still not bored ( well slightly!) 😁

That article says the racism allegation was the bad thing, but seems to imply that was it. There was So. Much. More. Have they just forgotten?

I agree, it sounded weird to me the first time around.

Wasn’t it Meghan saying that Late would be eating humble pie when they returned?!

Will they explain why they lied?

Thank you.

So a big helping of humble pie hopefully followed by seconds of security?

Throwing kids in for good measure. "Hoping A&L will connect with their cousins "

That's not what it says. It's not denied . They are saying it was a low blow and shouldn't have been brought up.

They lied about the racism because it would make headlines, it would make them look like victims, it would make them money.

They can apologise all they like, and they should, but what was said can’t be unsaid. Where was their apology when Catherine was seriously ill?

As ever, it’s self interest at the heart of this. They’re just desperate to get back into the RF at any cost.

Will they apologise for:
calling Camilla the villain of the piece?
inferring William didn't marry for love?
Catherine is cold?
Accusing his family of wanting him dead (security issue)?
Discussing his brothers circumcision? (WTF?)
Meg sending a gift basket to one of Catherine's trolls soon after he insinuated that she never had cancer?
Constant leaking, trolling (swan emoji) ?

Tom and Polly Coke, Lord and Lady Leicester live at Holkham Hall. They are around 60. Apparently QE and the DoE used to spend New Years Eve at Holkham.

I think there is very little chance W+K would be interested in receiving an apology from Meghan, and even less chance that the cousins will have a meaningful relationship. W+K will not want that family anywhere near their children.

Their use of A+L to manipulate and emotionally blackmail is pretty repulsive but not at all surprising.

Can’t imagine the Sussex Squad will be too impressed by all the reverse ferreting

It really pisses me off too. I once complained to a charity I supported that I wouldn’t be buying any cards from them as not one of them contained the word Christmas. The following year they had produced a number of Merry Christmas cards.

Every cloud…

'We are very sorry that you were so sensitive to what we said and took everything the wrong way.

We are sorry that meant that Archie and Lilibet have not had the royal opportunities they should have had.'

It's recently enough H was telling the world he has no regrets and is expecting an apology

I never knew the cafe but have stayed in the Ancient House as it is now. I’ve had a couple of lovely Christmas stays there.

'And that we couldn't sell bandanas.

Can we now?

Lots to shift.'

My late mum used to get the Leprosy Mission calendar for DD. It's a lovely way to tell the Christmas story.

If they apologise and nothing changes, what then? For example, no bells and whistles security (yes I know KC has no say but Harry doesn't realise that), no public photos of Meg and hamlets clinging to KC, royal events inclusion? Photos with hamlets and Wales kids? Do they rescind the apology?

This is not a random blow up between otherwise close family members, where a longstanding stable and loving relationship allows everyone to say sorry and move on. It’s been a sustained and deliberate attack over several years on the Waleses, KC3 and Camilla, the monarchy and the UK. They will never be trusted. They certainly can’t represent the king as working royals. The Sussexes are so unpopular and so toxic that there is no benefit to the RF in having anything to do with them. It’s also quite clear that they would have no interest in repairing relationships if they hadn’t failed so comprehensively in the US. The desperation and self-interest is cringingly transparent.

If there’s any truth in this at all then I feel for W and C. The last thing they need is showy “sorry, not sorries” from the HAMs.

I’ll believe it when I see it and not before.

The Express speculation is just that - speculation, and from a dubious source at that - but I don't know what value there'd be in any apology born of desperation rather than sincerity

Had to smile at the claim they're keeping cameras away though; are we really supposed to believe the pub images weren't set up?

Surely this has all gone way beyond "apologising" being the answer?