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Ham pr disaster thread 35! …Charles has played a blinder!

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jeffgoldblum · 07/09/2026 18:47

A continuation of the shenanigans of our favourite non working royals! 😁

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bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 17:51

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 17:06

There’s Liam McGuire, Markus Anderson, and that James Holt bloke. Holt was sent ahead of them back to England like John the Baptist preparing the way for the messianic duo.

Have just noticed - yet another excellent name change Flowers

I thought James Holt was now with the Lib Dems? Is he splitting his time with the Sussexes still?

WillysExtraSausage · 08/09/2026 17:51

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 17:51

Not by that much on this particular thread .

Edited

It was a joke about recollections. I should have put in the 😂

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 17:53

WillysExtraSausage · 08/09/2026 17:51

It was a joke about recollections. I should have put in the 😂

🤣🤣 sorry Willy! , I was trying hard to be gracious in the face of insurmountable differences!

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Lunde · 08/09/2026 17:55

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 16:21

And I think the days of having numerous WRF members such as QEll & PP, QEQM, Princess Margaret, the Gloucesters, all 3 of the Kents and all of QEll four children are well and truly over.

All the European RF's have downsized. I know all of the countries are much smaller than the UK and Commonwealth but, as far as I am aware, they only consist of ~

Norway ~ new King & Queen (who has a lot of health issues) + their two children the younger of whom is just off to uni

Sweden ~ King & Queen, Crown Princess & her husband (+ 2 school age children), King's younger two children and their spouses

Denmark ~ King & Queen + their 4 children the eldest of whom is doing military service, the former Queen & her sister both of whom are very elderly

Belgium ~ King & Queen + their four children - the eldest has just finished university and the second is doing military service. I believe the younger two are still studying in European countries. The King's sister who I think does quite a lot to support her brother and the King's brother who has a bit of a reputation for not toeing the Royal line . . .

Spain ~ King & Queen + two daughters who, I think, are doing military service and at uni

I don't think we need massive numbers of Royals any more. The duties have changed and I don't think there's been an outcry in this country of "We're opening a new . . . . and we can't get a Royal to come and cut a ribbon"

All the main events are well and truly covered by our Royals so I really don't see any need for the Sussex children to be lined up as prospective 'support' for the RF

Yes in particular the Scandi Royals have all radically downsized in recent years

Sweden - in 2019 the King announced changes

  • only the Crown Princess' children to be working royals her younger siblings' children would pursue roles outside royaly
  • the children of her siblings were stripped of HRH titles
  • Princess Madeleine's husband chose not to have a title or be a working royal
  • old requirements re-emphasised - only those educated in Sweden to be in the LoS and marry-ins required to participate in Prince/Princess school

Norway
In 2022 King Harald's daughter Märtha Louise stepped back from all royal duties as she wanted to pursue commercial interests. She relinquished all royal patronages and no longer represents the monarchy. She was permitted to keep her title of Princess, she is prohibited from using it—or referencing any other members of the royal family—for business, media productions, or commercial social media purposes.

Denmark
In 2023 then Queen Margrethe stripped the Prince/Princess titles from her grandchildren by second son, Prince Joachim's, 4 children in order to slim down the monarchy. They are now styled as Count/Countess Monpezat.

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 17:57

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 17:25

There has been an extraordinary amount of fuss about the king pointing out that the Sussexes are ‘ non working Royals’
However, I don’t think that they returned to the UK with any expectation or intention of becoming working royals again
If anything , the fact that this distinction has to be emphasised so strongly makes me wonder whether there is a concern that the public might actually expect or even want Harry and Meghan to undertake royal duties

What I don’t understand is why there is so much anger and venom directed at the Sussexes over their role
It isn’t their fault that the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest , nor is it their fault that many people aren’t particularly interested in the other senior royals .
If the media want the ‘irrelevant ‘ Sussexes to sink into oblivion then they should desist from writing the endless dissertations about them.
They will not though, because Harry and Meghan ( unlike the other royals ) are of interest to public , even those who despise them .

Check out the YouGov polls. They’re not popular.

Also:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-harry-britain-royal-family-b3041100.html

Why Harry and Meghan may not have moved back to Britain at all

The Sussexes may have flown back to the UK, but any dreams of becoming working royals have been firmly dashed. Helen Kirwan-Taylor argues that instead of being permanent fixtures in Blighty, they have simply joined a rootless international elite whose...

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-harry-britain-royal-family-b3041100.html

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 08/09/2026 17:58

Lunde · 08/09/2026 16:53

Yes AMW lobbied QEII very heavily for Beatrice and Eugenie to be working royals (and given security) - he gave that whole speech about them being the "blood princesses" of their generation in a nasty swipe at Kate.

Harry seems to be going the same way as AMW in being unable to cope with the loss of status and prestige as they start to fall down the LoS. Other siblings of the monarch/future monarch, such as Anne and Edward, have been much more pragmatic for themselves and their kids.

I can definitely see H in a few years constantly bringing up the fact that A&L are the ONLY blood niece and nephew of King William and thus deserve a higher billing and/or taxpayer funded security than the other kids in the extended family.

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 17:58

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 17:25

There has been an extraordinary amount of fuss about the king pointing out that the Sussexes are ‘ non working Royals’
However, I don’t think that they returned to the UK with any expectation or intention of becoming working royals again
If anything , the fact that this distinction has to be emphasised so strongly makes me wonder whether there is a concern that the public might actually expect or even want Harry and Meghan to undertake royal duties

What I don’t understand is why there is so much anger and venom directed at the Sussexes over their role
It isn’t their fault that the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest , nor is it their fault that many people aren’t particularly interested in the other senior royals .
If the media want the ‘irrelevant ‘ Sussexes to sink into oblivion then they should desist from writing the endless dissertations about them.
They will not though, because Harry and Meghan ( unlike the other royals ) are of interest to public , even those who despise them .

You cannot be serious! 😂

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 17:58

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 17:25

There has been an extraordinary amount of fuss about the king pointing out that the Sussexes are ‘ non working Royals’
However, I don’t think that they returned to the UK with any expectation or intention of becoming working royals again
If anything , the fact that this distinction has to be emphasised so strongly makes me wonder whether there is a concern that the public might actually expect or even want Harry and Meghan to undertake royal duties

What I don’t understand is why there is so much anger and venom directed at the Sussexes over their role
It isn’t their fault that the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest , nor is it their fault that many people aren’t particularly interested in the other senior royals .
If the media want the ‘irrelevant ‘ Sussexes to sink into oblivion then they should desist from writing the endless dissertations about them.
They will not though, because Harry and Meghan ( unlike the other royals ) are of interest to public , even those who despise them .

You cannot be serious! 😂

DaisyDooley · 08/09/2026 17:59

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 17:25

There has been an extraordinary amount of fuss about the king pointing out that the Sussexes are ‘ non working Royals’
However, I don’t think that they returned to the UK with any expectation or intention of becoming working royals again
If anything , the fact that this distinction has to be emphasised so strongly makes me wonder whether there is a concern that the public might actually expect or even want Harry and Meghan to undertake royal duties

What I don’t understand is why there is so much anger and venom directed at the Sussexes over their role
It isn’t their fault that the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest , nor is it their fault that many people aren’t particularly interested in the other senior royals .
If the media want the ‘irrelevant ‘ Sussexes to sink into oblivion then they should desist from writing the endless dissertations about them.
They will not though, because Harry and Meghan ( unlike the other royals ) are of interest to public , even those who despise them .

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH 😆
You are being sarcastic I presume?? I especially liked the bit about the public ‘wanting HaM to undertake royal duties”
Funny.
Right, im off to cook pork Chops.

Lunde · 08/09/2026 18:03

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 17:02

I've never known anyone be given the day off work for a local royal visit! Although a member of my family and her colleagues were allowed to move their lunchtime so that they could go and see QEll & PP when she opened a theatre complex near to their office

And I really don't think James Wessex is going to play any part in Royal life other than attending family occasions ~ he looks so shy, bless him, and I hope he enjoys agriculture college and finds a job that suits him, perhaps helping to run one of the Royal estates?

I think that you are spot on and that James may (in the long term) have a future in Royal estate management. He had a summer job at Sandringham as well.

Lunde · 08/09/2026 18:09

bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 17:51

Have just noticed - yet another excellent name change Flowers

I thought James Holt was now with the Lib Dems? Is he splitting his time with the Sussexes still?

He was photographed with them on the faux tour of Jordan earlier this year - despite leaving his role in 2025 to spend time with his family!

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 18:10

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 17:25

There has been an extraordinary amount of fuss about the king pointing out that the Sussexes are ‘ non working Royals’
However, I don’t think that they returned to the UK with any expectation or intention of becoming working royals again
If anything , the fact that this distinction has to be emphasised so strongly makes me wonder whether there is a concern that the public might actually expect or even want Harry and Meghan to undertake royal duties

What I don’t understand is why there is so much anger and venom directed at the Sussexes over their role
It isn’t their fault that the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest , nor is it their fault that many people aren’t particularly interested in the other senior royals .
If the media want the ‘irrelevant ‘ Sussexes to sink into oblivion then they should desist from writing the endless dissertations about them.
They will not though, because Harry and Meghan ( unlike the other royals ) are of interest to public , even those who despise them .

I beg to differ that "the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest"

Whilst visiting several people today they have commented on ~

Today is the anniversary of the death of QEll

Prince George starting at Eton today

Prince William will be attending the funeral of King Harald in Norway tomorrow

They have also mentioned the Sussexes and not in the favourable tone of the above three topics

And I think I'm correct in saying that the story about Prince George starting Eton today has taken precedence in the media over the story about the Sussexes disagreeing about the timing of the statement that was released yesterday

And I don't know of a single person who wants the Sussexes will ever perform Royal duties again

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 18:10

bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 17:51

Have just noticed - yet another excellent name change Flowers

I thought James Holt was now with the Lib Dems? Is he splitting his time with the Sussexes still?

I think he tried to check out, but could he ever leave? 🎵

Especially with all that Lib Dem and ID-pol linkagery going on.

DrWatsonsWalklingStick · 08/09/2026 18:22

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 17:26

I read it in Asda, chapter by chapter over a couple of weeks while DP did the checkout on his own. I didn’t want to pay for it, but was intrigued as to its content.

From the photoshopped cover photo that airbrushed his nose right through to the last page, it just got more and more fabulist and deranged throughout. But nasty and petty too - very ill-advised for a man with charity connections attempting to cling on to the remnants of royal association.

I read the Google translation the DM published from the leaked Spanish version and laughed until I cried. Just wonderful 😂

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 18:25

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 18:10

I beg to differ that "the Royal Family is struggling to maintain public interest"

Whilst visiting several people today they have commented on ~

Today is the anniversary of the death of QEll

Prince George starting at Eton today

Prince William will be attending the funeral of King Harald in Norway tomorrow

They have also mentioned the Sussexes and not in the favourable tone of the above three topics

And I think I'm correct in saying that the story about Prince George starting Eton today has taken precedence in the media over the story about the Sussexes disagreeing about the timing of the statement that was released yesterday

And I don't know of a single person who wants the Sussexes will ever perform Royal duties again

Check!

That’s my experience in terms of opinion round these parts.

OliveMyLove · 08/09/2026 18:25

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 18:10

I think he tried to check out, but could he ever leave? 🎵

Especially with all that Lib Dem and ID-pol linkagery going on.

Your user name 😂

OlympicWomen · 08/09/2026 18:25

DrWatsonsWalklingStick · 08/09/2026 18:22

I read the Google translation the DM published from the leaked Spanish version and laughed until I cried. Just wonderful 😂

Some of it is hilarious, isn't it? Some wild fantasies and some pretty weird stuff... 🤮
However much JRMoehringer was paid to write down that man's thoughts in a vaguely coherent way, really wasn't enough.

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 18:29

We don’t often see much about the Royals and the HaMs in The Independent, do we? Anyway here is an interesting article that I’ve archived (hopefully). Excerpt also included in bold.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-harry-britain-royal-family-b3041100.html

https://archive.ph/VDs82

A new way of being

If there is one thing that unites the rich and especially the elite rich, it’s the antipathy towards being in any one place for more than is absolutely necessary. First and foremost, in the minds of what I call Globos, also known as Cosmocrats, is tax – or more specifically tax avoidance. Call me cynical, but a quick dive through Fortune Magazine and the advice it gives to the super wealthy suggests this is the case.

The CEO of the tax advisory firm Blick Rothenberg says: “the timing of their move back to the UK was impeccable” for the simple mathematical reason that staying abroad for not five, but precisely six years, allows Harry to keep profits earned in the US.

Ten years is even better than six, but I also suspect the move – or “extended stay” as sources close to the couple have phrased it – also ties in with King Charles’ health. Meghan Markle has an American passport, but we don’t know whose bank account Netflix pays into, do we? Harry is not known to have a green card, which could be part of the issue too, so it could possibly be two tax returns.

I work with a large American accountancy firm who charge me if I so much as think about them. They advise people just like Harry and Meghan and I’m confident that this little six-year rule would have been explained in full, not to mention all the glorious other tax-saving options available which of course include moving your tax base to places like… Portugal. Is this the next big plan?

On top of an accountancy firm, I imagine that they will also employ private bankers and wealth advisors whose bonuses are entirely predicated on channelling money through Godforsaken islands near the Bahamas.

According to unconfirmed reports, the Sussexes have enlisted the help of British hedge-fund billionaire Ian Wace, who is said to be offering financial and other support to the couple. Said to be worth $1.2 billion, Wace owns the private Scottish island of Tanera Mòr, where Harry and Meghan reportedly holidayed with their children in July.

I think that while there’s a lot in this article that is moot, I doubt anyone in their circle wants this kind of publicity, attention or speculation.

Starryfifty · 08/09/2026 18:39

Just watching Tom Sykes. He made a good point. "You were winning Harry. You and kids had meeting with KC in July. You moved back to UK" but you blew it. On the day the future king, your nephew starts in Eton"

BemusedAmerican · 08/09/2026 18:40

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 17:57

Read the article while killing time before a routine checkup. What a depressing lifestyle!

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 18:40

@AustenitesUnite
Harry and Meghan are not working royals so why are posters on this thread getting themselves into such a state about them?
They are living their lives outside the institution . If people genuinely are uninterested they can simply stop discussing them
Why not spend time on the thread about Prince George at Eton ?

NormalAuntFanny · 08/09/2026 18:41

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 17:45

I appreciate your opinion, thoughtfully expressed, but I’m afraid I simply don’t agree on any of your points, in fact my opinion is a complete reversal of everything you have said.

Crikey, could this be a PR line or just a sugars sweet views?

Also thanks for new thread! It's running away from me at the moment

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 18:42

Lampzade · 08/09/2026 18:40

@AustenitesUnite
Harry and Meghan are not working royals so why are posters on this thread getting themselves into such a state about them?
They are living their lives outside the institution . If people genuinely are uninterested they can simply stop discussing them
Why not spend time on the thread about Prince George at Eton ?

Have you seen the unkind comments on there? Particularly nasty one about George was deleted!

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Mylovelygreendress · 08/09/2026 18:43

OlympicWomen · 08/09/2026 17:39

😂😂 love your style!
Yes, it was nasty and petty. Like all the interviews he did.
So bitter and petulant.

I am fully expecting another interview quite soon . Probably Chris Ship .

Scorchio84 · 08/09/2026 18:44

smilesy · 08/09/2026 15:12

Nah. I still don’t think anything can top
”makes my heart go pump pump”*
As the worst affront ever to English Literature

*copyright Meghan “The Bench”

Oh my god 🙈

Cracking Up Lol GIF
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