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Ham pr disaster thread 35! …Charles has played a blinder!

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jeffgoldblum · 07/09/2026 18:47

A continuation of the shenanigans of our favourite non working royals! 😁

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OlympicWomen · 08/09/2026 12:07

DancingFerret · 08/09/2026 12:05

Clapback time.

I'm not sure what part of letter needed clarification; it covered all the bases.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16113973/Kings-royal-letter-row-intensifies-Team-Sussex-say-did-not-time-clarify-points-released-public.html

I know that they both struggle, but they could have got somebody intelligent to read it to them, and explain.

DancingFerret · 08/09/2026 12:09

OlympicWomen · 08/09/2026 12:07

I know that they both struggle, but they could have got somebody intelligent to read it to them, and explain.

I did think that. Also, that they've been cleverly backed into a corner from which they can never escape.

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 12:10

DancingFerret · 08/09/2026 12:05

Clapback time.

I'm not sure what part of letter needed clarification; it covered all the bases.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16113973/Kings-royal-letter-row-intensifies-Team-Sussex-say-did-not-time-clarify-points-released-public.html

Seriously! , clarification of what? Facts need no clarification…I think they meant time to spin their own pr narrative don’t they!!! 🙄 absolute spoons! Honestly!

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meercat23 · 08/09/2026 12:16

Do they bother to give time for a response when they issue their statements. Somehow I think not. Also I don't think they mean clarification they mean negotiation but the Palace statement rightly leaves no room for that.

KilkennyCats · 08/09/2026 12:17

DancingFerret · 08/09/2026 12:05

Clapback time.

I'm not sure what part of letter needed clarification; it covered all the bases.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16113973/Kings-royal-letter-row-intensifies-Team-Sussex-say-did-not-time-clarify-points-released-public.html

What a pair of dumbasses, openly admitting they can’t quite grasp plain English.
And thinking it needs a response!!

PinkHairbrushClub · 08/09/2026 12:17

dustabsorber · 08/09/2026 10:55

Couldn't they go up north and be prince and princess of the North?

No thanks. And no chance they will, they’d get short shrift up here!

DrWatsonsWalklingStick · 08/09/2026 12:18

This makes them sound utterly ridiculous.
There is no clarification needed, the letter is crystal, cuttingly, clear. That it did not aid their grubby, underhand objectives does not mean it needed clarifying.
What utter, utter fools they've made of themselves.
ETA. Their input was not sought. Hence the "we've informed HaM" in the letter. Very much a CC recipient.

ShamedBySiri · 08/09/2026 12:19

Well I'm back from a lovely trip to France, I had said I would go on an Internet detox - I can't say I totally stayed off it, scrolling X from time to time and having the occasional dip into these threads, but I read my book, ate lots, went to some lovely restaurants, swam in the sea and dozed in the sun and mostly stayed away.
These threads have certainly moved at a pace over the last week or two.

On the subject of security I wanted to point out what has happened to the Webber family and the families of the other victims of the Nottingham stabbing, for anyone who missed this news.

Emma

@MrsEmmaWebber
·
Sep 2

I am furious. Our son was murdered by a man whose violent and vicious history and risks were repeatedly missed. Now we learn that another mentally ill man with a fixation on us and the Nottingham case travelled to Somerset, including our home town, seeking out victims' families; and the police chose not to tell us.
@nottspolice
knew. The
@policeconduct
knew. Yet nobody thought Barnaby's family deserved a warning. Nobody thought Charlie's school deserved safeguarding advice. Nobody thought we had a right to know. Is this even legal? Isn’t this within 'Osman warning'. As
@drsanjoykumar
points out in the story; the Calocane family were heaped with additional support and resources, including CCTV to make them safe. We had zero. How many more shocking failures are we expected to uncover ourselves? Victims' families should not have to fight for every piece of information while those responsible hide behind processes and excuses. STILL no accountability for ANYONE in these failed agencies."

https://x.com/MrsEmmaWebber/status/2095078192486777008?s=20

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/nottingham-families-mentally-ill-stalker-sknptz796

It's just incredible and appalling - the families being stalked by a mentally ill man, known to the authorities and no one thought to warn them.

The man also turned up at Dr Kumar's workplace, presumably also putting practice staff and possibly other patients present at risk.

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2095202546537095238?s=20

The incompetence and failure of duty of care by the police is mind boggling.

I think, considering these events, and the murder of Anne Widdecombe, it is clear there are quite a few dangerous individuals around, who present particular risk to anyone they become fixated on. Some may be mentally ill. Some may have particular axes to grind, whether political or religious or something else.

It seems to me that Harry and family are likely to be at risk - as are other Royals, celebrities and practically anyone who attracts attention by being in the public eye.

Through his ongoing actions and court cases much more is known about the protection available to the Royals than most people would have known previously - I for one didn't know that Anne and Edward for instance only had security when on working visits. I have seen it said on X that there is a review of Royal protection happening this week, but maybe they were referring to the Ravec review, maybe it is a planned regular review or maybe events (including Anne Widdecombe) have raised the alarm and there is a general tightening up happening.

However there isn't a bottomless pit of money and trained police protection officers, there has to be some rationing. I'm not aware of any celebrities getting state sponsored police protection for instance - I assume people like the Beckhams pay for their own.

What I do believe is that Harry considerably increases risk to himself and his family and to the wider Royal family through his actions. His best protection is to live quietly and discreetly. Unfortunately he seems determined not to do this.

As a side issue - why do they insist on having all these ostentatious giant SUVs with blacked out windows which scream for attention? Something I noticed in France was the lack of these types of vehicles - maybe I was in the wrong part of France or something, but I don't think the French are so obsessed with enormous status symbol cars. I don't often take much notice of cars so long as they get me from A to B and don't break down, but I did see a beautiful Royal blue Mercedes coupé parked at the beach one day and thought "I'd love that 😍". Discreet, understated luxury. Why don't they drive cars like that which don't attract so much attention (apart from me falling in love with it obv).

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Emma (@MrsEmmaWebber) on X

I am furious. Our son was murdered by a man whose violent and vicious history and risks were repeatedly missed. Now we learn that another mentally ill man with a fixation on us and the Nottingham case travelled to Somerset, including our home town, s...

https://x.com/MrsEmmaWebber/status/2095078192486777008?s=20

Starryfifty · 08/09/2026 12:20

AutumnCrowInAbeyance · 08/09/2026 11:50

Hello all, I’m trying to catch up on unfolding events while we’re in the middle of roof maintenance and repairs here at Casa Crow. Total stressy nightmare is all I can say.

Liam McGuire is proving to be a real disaster for the Sussexes, IMO. Since he took the helm of their yawing ship, it’s taken on even more water and entered even choppier seas.

I don't think it is Liam. HAM do not listen to. Why waste money on PR staff?

ShamedBySiri · 08/09/2026 12:21

Poppinpoppinpopcorn · 08/09/2026 11:30

He has the meeting with the monarch, not the hangers on

Errrm ... I was joking.

Aprilfountain · 08/09/2026 12:22

Spaniels4Eva · 08/09/2026 11:07

Harry and Meghan are like eternal toddlers having the worlds biggest temper tantrum and it shows no sign of abating. They sadly seem to bring out the worst in each other.

It's draining, and exhausting. I can't begin to imagine how family are coping with the two of them.

They're like two wasps at a picnic; annoying irritants constantly hanging around, spoiling the atmosphere and everyone wants rid of them!

bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 12:24

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/09/2026 11:51

I agree the source is absolutely clear, bluegreygreen, but have to wonder why Charles avoided doing as his mother did by issuing it in her own name, thereby removing any ambiguity at all

There is no way he could, or would, claim he didn’t know

Errrr ... you might want to look a little further into this, @Chrysanthemumsinpots

My assumption would be because it isn't actually a new statement, but clarification of the existing situation, @Puzzledandpissedoff.

If it was a new decision, it would be a formal statement from the Palace in the monarch's name.

DrWatsonsWalklingStick · 08/09/2026 12:27

ShamedBySiri · 08/09/2026 12:19

Well I'm back from a lovely trip to France, I had said I would go on an Internet detox - I can't say I totally stayed off it, scrolling X from time to time and having the occasional dip into these threads, but I read my book, ate lots, went to some lovely restaurants, swam in the sea and dozed in the sun and mostly stayed away.
These threads have certainly moved at a pace over the last week or two.

On the subject of security I wanted to point out what has happened to the Webber family and the families of the other victims of the Nottingham stabbing, for anyone who missed this news.

Emma

@MrsEmmaWebber
·
Sep 2

I am furious. Our son was murdered by a man whose violent and vicious history and risks were repeatedly missed. Now we learn that another mentally ill man with a fixation on us and the Nottingham case travelled to Somerset, including our home town, seeking out victims' families; and the police chose not to tell us.
@nottspolice
knew. The
@policeconduct
knew. Yet nobody thought Barnaby's family deserved a warning. Nobody thought Charlie's school deserved safeguarding advice. Nobody thought we had a right to know. Is this even legal? Isn’t this within 'Osman warning'. As
@drsanjoykumar
points out in the story; the Calocane family were heaped with additional support and resources, including CCTV to make them safe. We had zero. How many more shocking failures are we expected to uncover ourselves? Victims' families should not have to fight for every piece of information while those responsible hide behind processes and excuses. STILL no accountability for ANYONE in these failed agencies."

https://x.com/MrsEmmaWebber/status/2095078192486777008?s=20

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/nottingham-families-mentally-ill-stalker-sknptz796

It's just incredible and appalling - the families being stalked by a mentally ill man, known to the authorities and no one thought to warn them.

The man also turned up at Dr Kumar's workplace, presumably also putting practice staff and possibly other patients present at risk.

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2095202546537095238?s=20

The incompetence and failure of duty of care by the police is mind boggling.

I think, considering these events, and the murder of Anne Widdecombe, it is clear there are quite a few dangerous individuals around, who present particular risk to anyone they become fixated on. Some may be mentally ill. Some may have particular axes to grind, whether political or religious or something else.

It seems to me that Harry and family are likely to be at risk - as are other Royals, celebrities and practically anyone who attracts attention by being in the public eye.

Through his ongoing actions and court cases much more is known about the protection available to the Royals than most people would have known previously - I for one didn't know that Anne and Edward for instance only had security when on working visits. I have seen it said on X that there is a review of Royal protection happening this week, but maybe they were referring to the Ravec review, maybe it is a planned regular review or maybe events (including Anne Widdecombe) have raised the alarm and there is a general tightening up happening.

However there isn't a bottomless pit of money and trained police protection officers, there has to be some rationing. I'm not aware of any celebrities getting state sponsored police protection for instance - I assume people like the Beckhams pay for their own.

What I do believe is that Harry considerably increases risk to himself and his family and to the wider Royal family through his actions. His best protection is to live quietly and discreetly. Unfortunately he seems determined not to do this.

As a side issue - why do they insist on having all these ostentatious giant SUVs with blacked out windows which scream for attention? Something I noticed in France was the lack of these types of vehicles - maybe I was in the wrong part of France or something, but I don't think the French are so obsessed with enormous status symbol cars. I don't often take much notice of cars so long as they get me from A to B and don't break down, but I did see a beautiful Royal blue Mercedes coupé parked at the beach one day and thought "I'd love that 😍". Discreet, understated luxury. Why don't they drive cars like that which don't attract so much attention (apart from me falling in love with it obv).

Totally agree with everything you said.

By the way, have you seen French parking procedures in urban areas? They bounce between cars parallel parking to make space. Renault Twingos are tough as nails. THAT's why big cars aren't status symbols!

ShamedBySiri · 08/09/2026 12:29

jeffgoldblum · 08/09/2026 12:10

Seriously! , clarification of what? Facts need no clarification…I think they meant time to spin their own pr narrative don’t they!!! 🙄 absolute spoons! Honestly!

Such hypocrites as ever - they have form for keeping their plans secret and presenting the RF with a fait accompli , most recently springing their return to the UK on the RF at a moment's notice despite meeting with the King just a few weeks previously. But they thought they should have had advance notice of this letter and time to argue and spin before it hit the news.

Well played Buckingham Palace.

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 12:30

Curlygirl06 · 08/09/2026 09:40

Re living as private citizens bit- Anne and Edward are working royals so we get to see what they do when they're working. When they're not working, we don't know what they're doing so why can't HAM look at that and follow suit? I know, because they don't want to! Idiots.

And because of their personalities. Zara, say, is secure, happy in her skin, not trying to prove anything, a confident high-achiever in sport, happy to marry a blokey bloke with no blue blood and live off the radar.

Meghan and Harry aren't like that. Harry is peevish and desperate for status affirmation and Meghan is an desperate narcissist who craves attention and glamour. I cannot imagine her settling down to a quiet, private life - however privileged. She needs (like most of us need oxygen) to be front and centre on the red carpet in a shockingly expensive gown with all the cameral flashes going - oh, and to make crappy speeches all the time and receive fake awards.

H & M have nothing inside them - without external validation (including putting others down) they are nothing.

bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 12:31

'No time to clarify' archive link https://archive.is/pEruU

Starryfifty · 08/09/2026 12:32

What points do they need clarification on? It's very clear. It's basically a re-iteration of the Sandringham agreement ? Which they obviously didn't read either

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 12:32

Aprilfountain · 08/09/2026 12:22

They're like two wasps at a picnic; annoying irritants constantly hanging around, spoiling the atmosphere and everyone wants rid of them!

And we still don't know where their nest is!

bluegreygreen · 08/09/2026 12:33

Yes, @ShamedBySiri, I said before (I think on the previous thread) that I would like to know if there had been an increase in threats to the other Royals since Harry decided to tell everyone details about their security that no-one needs to know.

SaltyTea · 08/09/2026 12:34

I think it was better coming from the Lord Chamberlain. A reminder that if you want to set up a 'second court' you can't piggy back on the resources available to the working royals. I cannot understand why so many people feel happy that the public ought to subsidise pseudo-royal activities, especially where there is no demonstrable public benefit.

I am a big advocate of a slimmed down monarchy and think we should scrutinise the money spent on the royals across the board.

CoffeeCantata · 08/09/2026 12:34

ShamedBySiri · 08/09/2026 12:21

Errrm ... I was joking.

I've been mistaken about several posts, Shamed!

There is a lot of witty sarcasm on here as well as, er, the occasional super-daft post, and it's all moving so fast just now it's hard to keep up!

Apologies from me to any pp whose ironic and witty post I've taken at face value!

TurquoiseDress · 08/09/2026 12:37

BreadInCaptivity · 07/09/2026 19:11

Evening all. I didn’t even get chance to catch up and post on the last thread 🤣 so thanks for the new one Jeff 🙏.

So KC3’s letter….another masterclass from BP. Not quite up there with Recollections, but not far off.

What it’s saying so elegantly is “they made their bed and we expect them to lie in it. However, we also anticipate them trying to lie their way out of it by making demands to pretend/confuse a status they themselves rescinded to pursue personal commercial gain by shitting on the family and the country. So if in doubt/you suspect they are taking the piss, give us a call. “

Brilliant summary 💯

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 12:38

I sometimes feel Prince Harry would have done well to read up about the Duke of Windsor. He may have learned a thing or two about trying to live a royal lifestyle whilst not being part of the Royal Family.

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor ended up as two lonely, pathetic old people. Sad, very sad but I can see history repeating itself . . .

Viviennemary · 08/09/2026 12:41

He could hardly write, 'pin your ears back you lazy greedy pair of whining grifters. You're not working royals so don't even think about acting like you are. Everybody's been told that you are ordinary citizens. Get that. So yah boo sucks. Go away and have a nice life.

OlympicWomen · 08/09/2026 12:41

AustenitesUnite · 08/09/2026 12:38

I sometimes feel Prince Harry would have done well to read up about the Duke of Windsor. He may have learned a thing or two about trying to live a royal lifestyle whilst not being part of the Royal Family.

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor ended up as two lonely, pathetic old people. Sad, very sad but I can see history repeating itself . . .

I think Harry would have done well to inform himself about the very basics of the RF.
It's a hierarchy.
You will get criticised.
Taxpayers money isn't limitless.
Being a Prince means that you are very privileged.

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