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PR disasters thread 29

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2026 00:04

Im A Celebrity Au GIF by I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! Australia

It’s a September return to Salty Island!

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IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 16:37

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 16:21

Harry could have framed it as- he cannot afford to pay for the next 15 years of security over in the US for the kids but in the UK, they will be afforded something?

Money, or lack thereof, has to factor into this decision in a big way.

But even so, returning to Britain is such a humiliating admission of failure, however much the super fanz are trying to spin it. They could have downsized in California and lived within their means. But returning to 'Salty Isle'? At least Harry has family and friend there, however estranged they might be. But Meghan? There's nothing there for her. This is a massive climbdown from that pompous 'Manifesto' not even 7 years ago.

Starryfifty · 20/08/2026 16:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2026 16:26

I don’t think a separation is imminent at all, I think this is a bulldozing attempt to get their half in half out deal, what I predict will happen is they will arrive in September and both Harry and Meghan will visit Well Child as their first “royal” visit, these “royal” visits will gather pace over the following months, the children will be introduced to public life, first day at school pictures etc. they are setting up their own court and will do absolutely everything to overshadow the RF, we know the BBC will be fawning over every ribbon they cut when actual working royals don’t even get a mention. I don’t believe either that KC knew nothing about this, he will have been involved and I think it’s his way of manipulating William that they need to be back in the fold as full time royals so they are under some form of control. I also don’t believe KC is close to the end of his life, I think his cancer is one that he will live with until the end of his natural life, I suspect he will be around for ten plus years yet.

You could be right. It'll be very much the Wales template. How many UK charities are HAM involved with ?

Starryfifty · 20/08/2026 16:43

CariadDarling · 20/08/2026 16:34

@AcrossthePond55 I’m sorry if this is out of place but I just wanted to say me too and that I hope you are as okay as can be.

Hope you doing ok x

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 16:45

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 16:37

Money, or lack thereof, has to factor into this decision in a big way.

But even so, returning to Britain is such a humiliating admission of failure, however much the super fanz are trying to spin it. They could have downsized in California and lived within their means. But returning to 'Salty Isle'? At least Harry has family and friend there, however estranged they might be. But Meghan? There's nothing there for her. This is a massive climbdown from that pompous 'Manifesto' not even 7 years ago.

I know. It’s beyond baffling.

I can just about believe Harry would have the brass neck to return. I cannot possibly imagine why Meg would agree.

It’s complete humiliation and I can’t see the type of personality that Meg has, would accept that.

I feel like there’s something we are missing??????

money is the main driver- but like you say, there’s so many other options to help mitigate their financial woes before they would have to return to the dreaded UK.

MH will also be a big one- Harry seems like hard work

But still nothing adds up to the solution being…..return to the Salty Isle

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 20/08/2026 16:45

I also don’t think they’ll separate, there is no way she’d have agreed to a UK move if that was on the cards, even if the money is running out.

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 16:48

So what changed from less than two months ago?

Security continues to be a central concern for Prince Harry, 41, and his family and a key reason why Meghan, 44, Archie, 7, and Lilibet, 5, have not been to the U.K. since 2022.
Prince Harry and Meghan lost their security when they stepped back as working members of the royal family in 2020 and relocated to California. Harry fought the decision in court but lost his legal appeal last year, after which Harry told the BBC that he couldn't “see a world in which I would be bringing my wife and children back to the U.K. at this point.”
“The things that they're going to miss is, well, everything,” he added of his children. “I miss the U.K., I miss parts of the U.K., of course I do. I think that it's really quite sad that I won't be able to show my children my homeland."

people.com/prince-harry-exploring-every-option-bring-archie-lilibet-to-uk-12008332

Prince Harry

Prince Harry tells BBC he wants 'reconciliation' with Royal Family

In an exclusive interview in California, the prince says that his father is not speaking to him over his security legal challenge.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8074n5z597o

Starryfifty · 20/08/2026 16:50

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 16:45

I know. It’s beyond baffling.

I can just about believe Harry would have the brass neck to return. I cannot possibly imagine why Meg would agree.

It’s complete humiliation and I can’t see the type of personality that Meg has, would accept that.

I feel like there’s something we are missing??????

money is the main driver- but like you say, there’s so many other options to help mitigate their financial woes before they would have to return to the dreaded UK.

MH will also be a big one- Harry seems like hard work

But still nothing adds up to the solution being…..return to the Salty Isle

They have exhausted all other options. The US has failed. Their reputation is irrecoverably damaged. Canada? Didn't they try that? They suggested the Australian tour was successful but it really wasn't.

KC is their safety net. As another poster has suggested, it will be a rival royal court. Charity visits, including hamlets to ensure they aren't booed. Promoted as the King's adorable grandchildren. Huge push to restore their image. Also, KC has known about this for long time IMO

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2026 16:52

bluegreygreen · 20/08/2026 12:35

I've been looking back at some of the posts on the 'Reconciliation' threads from last year.

One of the possibilities discussed was Harry returning to the UK because of mental health issues, living somewhere in the country and gradually being rehabilitated on the edges of the family over a few years ...

That's interesting, bluegreygreen

It was mentioned earlier that with a largely ageing RF they need more people to appeal to the young, and I expect claims of mental health issues would help

For all we know he could have told Charles that he too is now suicidal ...

Also a good point about "why would Harry do this to his wife when being here made her suicidal", @Atlusvue. Like so much else it seems unanswerable, and even the few fans have nothing to suggest, so I'm left thinking there's a damn sight more to this than we know

CariadDarling · 20/08/2026 16:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2026 16:26

I don’t think a separation is imminent at all, I think this is a bulldozing attempt to get their half in half out deal, what I predict will happen is they will arrive in September and both Harry and Meghan will visit Well Child as their first “royal” visit, these “royal” visits will gather pace over the following months, the children will be introduced to public life, first day at school pictures etc. they are setting up their own court and will do absolutely everything to overshadow the RF, we know the BBC will be fawning over every ribbon they cut when actual working royals don’t even get a mention. I don’t believe either that KC knew nothing about this, he will have been involved and I think it’s his way of manipulating William that they need to be back in the fold as full time royals so they are under some form of control. I also don’t believe KC is close to the end of his life, I think his cancer is one that he will live with until the end of his natural life, I suspect he will be around for ten plus years yet.

When you put it like that I think it’s time to spit over my shoulder and say Stafallah.

I am glad though that the King could still live for a very long time.

BasiliskStare · 20/08/2026 16:59

I suspect M is very ambitious for her children. So whilst she might not want to be in the WRF herself , a British public school or similar upbringing and mixing with the cousins ( even if not W&C's but rather eg Zara's, Peter's or the Yorklets) I can see appealing to her, and giving them the maximum chance of being , if not working royals , at least on good terms with the next generation of the RF and any other remaining friends of H's children. Now , by then those children will be like Linley's children or Sarah Chatto's children so not sure how good a plan that is , just positing it as a potential reason.

But I am sure the finances play a part. If KC dips into his personal pot for security or school fees that's outgoings they don't have, plus they could pretty much mothball the McMansion for periods of time , or at least a skeleton staff to keep it safe / gardens tidy etc. Doesn't help mortgage taxes etc obviously.
Also , they've notably not had any financial success since the original signings and they don't seem to have a good track record of keeping power brokers ( for want of a better word ) on board so maybe this is a regrouping break. M isn't backward in coming forward for invitations etc so I am sure she'll be popping up at all sorts.

I don't want to speculate on it being divorce stage 1 because I'm going to be a bit Fotherington-Thomas about it & hope they are just fine.

EmpressSisi · 20/08/2026 17:00

It will be interesting to see what many of the self confessed Republicans/“imnotafanofmeghanandharry” etc will have to say now they’re returning to the Salty Isle 🤣

Watch this space 🤣🤣🤣

🍿🥨

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 17:01

Over on Tattle, the current Harry n Meg thread is titled:

‘ Freedom flight? I never said that, the press did’

😂

EmpressSisi · 20/08/2026 17:01

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 17:01

Over on Tattle, the current Harry n Meg thread is titled:

‘ Freedom flight? I never said that, the press did’

😂

🤣🫣

Justdancevance · 20/08/2026 17:03

Harry will be demanding free 24 hour security for all of them.

They can’t afford to pay for it in the US anymore.

Daygloboo · 20/08/2026 17:03

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 06:41

There must be huge money issues but I’m also getting vibes that this is the end for Harry and Meg.

She will hate it here, like last time- (to the point she didn’t want to live anymore) and now he’s bringing her back to that? I can see a divorce in the near future…it’s clear the kids will remain here

Edited

Yes, it is isnt it. He wants to be back here, and will put down roots and make friendships again, and she'll be back and forth to US. And once that starts happening, it's curtains. And once the kids are at boarding school for weeks at a time, they will both start doing their own thing.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2026 17:04

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 16:03

I was musing above that this could be a prelude to a separation.

But if so, surely Meghan would be doing everything in her power to keep the children in California? They are resident there and she would have the final say on whether or if they leave the country. By moving to Britain, she's giving Harry the upper hand in any eventual custody battle.

Maybe it depends on what she's been offered, IcedPurple?

I'd also lay good money that the MIGS will have an extensive file on her, and might perhaps have been able to bring influence to bear. After all two can play the leaks game

SqueakyDinosaur · 20/08/2026 17:04

Starryfifty · 20/08/2026 16:42

You could be right. It'll be very much the Wales template. How many UK charities are HAM involved with ?

I think H has three - Invictus, Well Child and Scotty's Little Soldiers. William, whom the Squad constantly deride as lazy, has around 50, and is particularly heavily involved in Homewards, his homelessness initiative.

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 17:04

EmpressSisi · 20/08/2026 17:00

It will be interesting to see what many of the self confessed Republicans/“imnotafanofmeghanandharry” etc will have to say now they’re returning to the Salty Isle 🤣

Watch this space 🤣🤣🤣

🍿🥨

I had yet another gander at a certain site which is bitchy about celebrities.

As the kids would say, the cope is something else!

Just days ago they were going on about how 'toxic' Britain is for black people, and how brave Harry was to 'take' his wife and children out. And now this? Seriously, there is no way to spin this if you're a Sussex megafan. But that won't stop them trying.

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 17:05

2pm tomorrow and we will know how much Harry owes in the ANL case. Must be bad to drop this news to try and cover it up.

Recklessismymiddlename · 20/08/2026 17:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2026 16:26

I don’t think a separation is imminent at all, I think this is a bulldozing attempt to get their half in half out deal, what I predict will happen is they will arrive in September and both Harry and Meghan will visit Well Child as their first “royal” visit, these “royal” visits will gather pace over the following months, the children will be introduced to public life, first day at school pictures etc. they are setting up their own court and will do absolutely everything to overshadow the RF, we know the BBC will be fawning over every ribbon they cut when actual working royals don’t even get a mention. I don’t believe either that KC knew nothing about this, he will have been involved and I think it’s his way of manipulating William that they need to be back in the fold as full time royals so they are under some form of control. I also don’t believe KC is close to the end of his life, I think his cancer is one that he will live with until the end of his natural life, I suspect he will be around for ten plus years yet.

Then he’s a fool. I’ve said for while that in 20/30 years we will no longer have a monarchy. IMO this is the start.

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 17:12

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2026 17:04

Maybe it depends on what she's been offered, IcedPurple?

I'd also lay good money that the MIGS will have an extensive file on her, and might perhaps have been able to bring influence to bear. After all two can play the leaks game

Honestly, I don't think she has any deep dark secrets to hide. She seems quite a dull person really. Just a pretty but mediocre actress who got lucky by a) working in Toronto, which in 'industry' terms is a small town and b) chancing upon an exceptionally dim and emotionally stunted princeling. I can't imagine she has any kind of scandalous past being hushed up, but I of course could be wrong.

IcedPurple · 20/08/2026 17:13

Was unsure whether or not to click the 'sensitive image' box before inflicting Harry's gurning mug on you all.

What do we call the upcoming return to Salty Isle? Failure Flight?

PR disasters thread 29
Dontevenlookatme · 20/08/2026 17:15

Starryfifty · 20/08/2026 16:21

It's absolutely permanent. They can't enrol kids into school then move them after 6 months, a year. I know HAM are selfish dimwits but even they know that's damaging for young children

Of course it is. I know of a few couples who thought they could do six months here and six months there, they never factor in their children’s schooling. Inevitably they have to commit.

What might not be permanent is what happens after day school. Once A and L are safely docked in boarding schools they’ll be free to do their couple thing again. I actually think that’s what they both prefer. The DC are hobby children.

SummerNocturnal · 20/08/2026 17:19

AtIusvue · 20/08/2026 17:05

2pm tomorrow and we will know how much Harry owes in the ANL case. Must be bad to drop this news to try and cover it up.

But there were SEVEN involved in that case.
Doreen aside, if he said he'd cover her, why are they making out he's got to pay the lot?
Elton's loaded.
Surely, if Daily Fail wants all the 30 something million back (punitive and above what was estimated) it is still "only" 2 and a bit mill each and so 4-5 for Harry paying Doreen's too, 4-5 for Elton if he is paying David's as well, and the other 3 pay their 2 million each. Liz Hurley can afford it probably. Not sure about the other two.
It was a group action. Also seems wrong their insurance only covered them for half. And if anyone wants to tell me in 20 words or less, why their case was not upheld (knowing what we know about hacking from Coogan, Grant etc all) please let me know. I know suspicions does not equate to evidence, but does the judgement fstate it believes the paper got its info legally?

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · 20/08/2026 17:19

Scorchio84 · 20/08/2026 15:35

Hope this posts, I just saw it on Twitter*

“We’ve taken the decision to return to Britain in order to spend more time with my father’s money”

(*maybe later when the pic gets the green light)

Edited

😂

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