Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy

[TheHaplessWit]

Another new story on Andrew today. Photo's have emerged showing that on Epstein's desk, there were emails regarding Epstein paying debts owed by Andrew/Sarah to staff:

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?
Doesn't seem "too honourable" to me.

It makes me wonder which other disreputable has had reputation protected & hush money paid up?

I agree . To me the prone female figure ( is she conscious ?) looks like a child or a teenager.

I have no words for this revolting family . Charles , William , Elizabeth , all of them knew what Andrew was up to. All of them.
They did not lift a finger . I doubt they see it as wrong .

The little they have done was prompted by outside pressure .
Andrew should be answering police questions. Instead he is still protected .
And some people support this institution?
The longer this goes on the more sick our self declared unelected head of state is shown to be.

And by head of state I mean this ridiculous hereditary nonsense we tolerate .
It could be king Andrew and we’d know even less than we do .

I would give William a bit of a pass because he was a lot younger at the time. It's the 3 siblings AFAIC. I include Anne in that. Everyone that says how she doesn't suffer falls gladly, she's on the money, she's forthright and she apparently had her mother's ear. Where was she while all this was going on?

William is in his 40s. He does not get a pass.
He was photographed driving Andrew and that was part of a rehabilitation attempt.
William was even reported to have been ‘concerned’ about his uncle’s mental health !
Not a word about raped girls .

And bloody Mandelson too - heart of elected government.

And the rumours about Clinton might be true too.

Yes agree but I'm talking about whilst it was actually happening and Andrew was Trade Envoy, I doubt William knew what was going on

Accurately put - except there's a lot I'd like to know about the current Head of State we're stuck with and never will

Paedophile friendships and support, murky financial dealings, ties to middle east rulers, flogging of honours, gifts and citizenship, profound hypocrisy ... he's been involved in them all, but all we hear about is Andrew

As I've said so often, a very useful lightning rod

Not so saintly if she was enabling his predatory behaviour.

A lot of women at the top of society turn a blind eye to what their husbands, brothers or sons get up to with vulnerable young women (and also when they enjoy dressing up as women themselves).

The rest of us are just commoners after all.

Yep that image of Andrew everywhere and this stuff too. I’m pretty sure Mandelson said he had no idea what he was up to. But the timing is off.

I wonder if Epstein trafficked teenage boys as well as girls?

He was photographed on one occasion driving A to church apparently as instructed by KC
I have read that Anne and Edward are concerned about AMW’s mental health but never about William’s concerns . Do you have a link ?

France is top of the EU for visitors most years and without any help from a monarchy. I think that argument has run its course.

The most expensive family on social welfare in the country.

@simpsonthecat

Andrew and the trade ‘deadline envoy’ scandals further implicates Elizabeth Windsor . She was told repeatedly about his behaviour.

I admit I didn’t see that part of the thread I just saw @IdaGlossop post mentioning how young the girl looked and I’d had felt the same .

I only glanced when the image appeared on social media and haven’t read about it.

I find it deeply unsettling that the head of state has not made any statement. Decent people are disgusted . There is a deep disconnection between the public and this so called royal family. It’s dystopian. We are expected to look the other way and pretend it isn’t happening when the Windsors appear

I saw a man ask William Windsor about the Andrew issue and it appeared that William’s protection approached the man and basically told him to stop.
Message received .

There must be royal protection officers that have witness evidence that have enabled his vile behaviour
amw is a nonce and Sarah Ferguson is just another grifter

I know we are all different but how on god's green earth are people still royalists? Because, despite it all, there's still plenty of them about. Buy into the one bad apple theory I suppose. But they are all rotten. Rotten to the core. They'll be got rid of one day but, despite everything that has happened and will happen, I am sorry to say that I think that that day is still many years away.

@redboxer321
I am baffled too - look at what they are cheering for?

But I do not believe they have the support that we are told they do. Constant private ‘polls’ - self selected respondents- not random, not large scale - are basically a branch of Windsor PR.

If they were truly popular there would be much less resistance to a referendum. A non binding one of course. Let’s just see what we really think . I think we know why that will be resisted until it can no longer be ignored.

I’m away so haven’t read everything on this thread but just listened to this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mybpzh?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

apologies if already shared. I’ll try and read later.

I can't help thinking Andrew looks a bit sweaty in these pictures too. It might be the fact I'm looking at them on a screen, but there looks to be a definite sheen on his face to me.

I am not someone who usually gets a kick out of someone else's misery but I do raise a wry smile every time I see a story about Sarah's dramatic hysterics over having to leave a mansion she's lived in rent free for decades and slum in it a smaller house that she'll need to pay for herself!

Very telling that neither of her daughters are willing to take her in too.

Genuinely agog that she wrong JE an email whilst he was in prison telling him how proud she was of him. Proud of what exactly? Being a nonce?!

Sarah F could be as much of a nonce as Ghislaine Maxwell for all we know.

Scary, isn’t it? She was a HRH for years.

She'll be on SpareRoom next.

God knows how anyone below 60 is a royalist. It beats me. They will go one day but I feel it's a couple of generations away to be honest.

Hopefully it sends sooner than a couple of generations, but I can see why it hangs on when many in the UK use the BBC for news and in todays story it has terrible statements like:

But as an institution, Buckingham Palace and the monarchy must be quietly relieved that such strong action was taken against Andrew last autumn. The stripping of his titles pre-empted the calls that would have inevitably come from these latest disclosures.

Oh - that's OK then, nothing to see here it's already been dealt with. It's OK that the queen paid off sexual abuse victims and Andrew isn't going to jail then !!!

At some point the lies will become too blatant for even the most gullible to accept.