Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy

[TheHaplessWit]

Another new story on Andrew today. Photo's have emerged showing that on Epstein's desk, there were emails regarding Epstein paying debts owed by Andrew/Sarah to staff:

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?
Doesn't seem "too honourable" to me.

Just waiting for one of his team to claim he was on a first aid course.

Andrew is disgusting.

The Head of State has stripped him of his birthright titles, downgraded his accommodation significantly, and ( in public at least) banished him from membership of the RF.

That is some statement, right there.

Only by force of public pressure @Rhaidimiddim

Yes, I think it got to the point where they had to do something and the king realised it would reflect very badly on him if he didn't. Or perhaps he thought there were worse revelations to come and he'd be better off taking action now.

Nope .

Window dressing to fool the gullible.

And Andrew is still HRH.

The man paid off a victim of sexual abuse (rather than try to prove innocence), lied in a BBC interview (when he said he'd cut contact but emails prove otherwise) and you think moving him to a slightly smaller mansion ("downgraded his accommodation significantly") counts as sufficient punishment???

If any member of the public had done what he's done then they'd be in jail, he should be too.

That photo is genuinely shocking. To me that is clearly a child.

Horrific

Sorry but that made me laugh! (and those victims don't need a joke around this, my utmost sympathy goes to them big time, I wish them justice)

CPR perhaps, what on earth was the matter with that young girl that Andrew needed to kneel on the floor whilst she appeared comatose.

Which is Approx 35 million today value

I think the HRH finally went for a burton late last year in a Letter Patent published in the London Gazette; but he is still technically a Counsellor of State and, of course, in the line of succession (8th). Grim.

I disagree with this. The Queen was refreshing in that she didn’t pander to social media trends - she was above it all. You’d never see her making videos like Kate’s recent nature film for example, which drew a lot of criticism. She simply got on with the job and was all about service. If people see that as old-fashioned and “not moving with the times” then it’s a shame as those are good qualities that many other people hugely respected!

Maybe but I think of her tossing stones into the river re: a 70s Queen’s speech & poss equiv sentiment of Kate’s vid.

@TheAutumnCrow

Thanks - but I’m not so sure that Andrew’s ‘stylings’ have been removed. I think they are in abeyance . I know Andrew said he wouldn’t use the ( nonsense) terms ‘prince’ ‘duke’ but that caused an outcry . So the first grift didn’t work.
Then Charles got shouted at in public and suddenly ‘letters patent ‘ ( more nonsense ) were fussed around with . So what ?

I think Andrew is still HRH unless there is legislation.
But that is a side show
All this so called first family has to do was allow the officers of the law to interview Andrew. Andrew himself is on film pledging to help the police .
More lies .

@working9
It’s a real pity that ‘getting on with the job’ included a complete refusal to listen to people who knew exactly what Andrew was up to. Her legacy has been tarnished and stained.

Alleged involvement in the torture of a girl who later died

https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip/comments/1qs2sx5/tip_email_from_epstein_files_alleges_andrew/

Paying off one’s opponent in a civil case is not against the law, either in America or here in the UK. Lying in a BBC interview is not a criminal offence either. I was hopeful that the slimy bastard would finally get pinned down for asking his private detective to look for dirt on Virginia, but apparently there’s no case to answer there either. You’re not alone in wanting to see Mr AMW staying properly at His Majesty’s pleasure, i.e. in clink as opposed to a nice gaff on his brothers land, but he’s got to be criminally prosecuted for that to happen. I’m not holding my breath for that to happen.

She didn't just get on with the job and was all about service. She refused to do anything about the very serious accusations against Andrew until far too late. She then insisted he pay Virginia Guiffre an enormous sum so that the case didn't interfere with the celebrations around her diamond jubilee. If that wasn't about appearance rather than substance what was?

The late Queen devoted her life to the country, admirably, but in the process deference grew up around her to such an extent that no one could explain that she needed to make Andrew speak to the FBI and she needed to remove his role far earlier than she did. Deference meant that the government kept him in good role as trade envoy way past the time anyone else who was milking it like him would have been retained.

Mums don't like to believe awful things about their sons but someone needed to grasp the nettle and get her to see a few home truths. She was tough enough with Harry wanting Half in Half out, Andrew should have been dealt with as effectively. It's sad that the end of her reign has tarnished the rest.

A child. Someone's daughter. Horrific indeed

As I have said before there must be so many people that saw something or thought that’s not right have enabled his behaviour and empowered his entitlement
he has no intention of helping the victims of Epstein and telling the courts anything that he knows
I speak as someone that put up with childhood abuse and violence and recognise those that stood by and turned a blind eye

In a world of blatant and open corruption and hypocrisy at all levels - politicians, business, religious leaders, police, etc - I think I’m not alone in desperately wanting someone, anyone, to publicly denounce it all and say “enough, we can’t have this anymore”. We need leadership and absolutely nobody is showing enough decent leadership.

The photo is disturbing. You hope she's okay whoever she is. There's a photo with her hand up which is the the only thing that makes me think she's conscious (maybe barely), but all the articles don't give her age. She's got tiny hands. Why is she on the floor like that. They must know who she is since they've redacted her face and had a lot of time to identify everyone.

'UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer suggests Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor should testify before the US Congress over his dealings with Jeffrey Epstein.' - maybe he should bring that up during his weekly meeting with KC.

C3's long whispered 'changes' have evaporated even while he pockets an ever bigger slice of the cake and I have zero faith in W's appetite for significant change.

AMW is still supported in luxury (albeit downgraded) with no indication of how the cost of the apparently extensive renovations required at RL will be met in his absence while the Palace PR spin is that he's simply a banished pariah.

It belongs to the state having been bought with funds diverted from a Civil List fraudulently bloated by royal bleating.