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The royal family

As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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hepsitemiz · 11/12/2025 20:37

SidekickSylvia · 11/12/2025 13:07

I've just seen a clip of the 'Holiday Season' thing, where she says that another anomaly for people at this time of year, is how on earth do you wrap a wine bottle? (She then demonstrates wrapping a bottle up with a scarf.) She uses the word anomaly with such confidence for someone using it in the wrong context, why didn't someone tell her that it doesn't mean what she thinks it does? That her sentence doesn't make sense? It's so heavily edited, yet they left that in.

I love her incorrect use of language, when she so obviously tries to impress upon us how very clever she is.

She thinks “archetypes” means “labels that hold us back”, very clearly getting confused with “stereotypes”.

She uses “codify” when the correct word is “decode”.

This, plus her word salads (and very awkward syntax in The Tig), show us what a weak communicator she is.

I wouldn’t comment if she didn’t so often say things like “I was always the clever one”…

hepsitemiz · 11/12/2025 20:40

Cross posted with @Treylime , my apologies

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 11/12/2025 21:18

prelovedusername · 11/12/2025 18:01

Exactly this. For her to have so much, and him so little, is a poor reflection on her as a so called humanitarian.

Particularly as she hasn't always hated him. Even if things have soured now, he was supportive of her, and she of him.

However, why is he poor? US dollars in the Philippines should stretch far.

prelovedusername · 11/12/2025 21:34

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 11/12/2025 21:18

Particularly as she hasn't always hated him. Even if things have soured now, he was supportive of her, and she of him.

However, why is he poor? US dollars in the Philippines should stretch far.

I’m not sure he has many of those either. They all seem pretty useless with money.

lickingfingertastingfood · 11/12/2025 23:10

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 11/12/2025 21:18

Particularly as she hasn't always hated him. Even if things have soured now, he was supportive of her, and she of him.

However, why is he poor? US dollars in the Philippines should stretch far.

Her college fees were $250,000

RedTagAlan · 12/12/2025 04:15

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 11/12/2025 21:18

Particularly as she hasn't always hated him. Even if things have soured now, he was supportive of her, and she of him.

However, why is he poor? US dollars in the Philippines should stretch far.

Yup. Poor folk don't retire to Mexico then move to the Philippines.

I knew a guy done the same. Really good pension. He lives in the Philippines now, tried a couple other countries. It's a lifestyle choice.

prelovedusername · 12/12/2025 06:38

No, it’s money. Could be the affordability of medical treatment and carers as TM’s health has not been good for a while.

RedTagAlan · 12/12/2025 07:19

prelovedusername · 12/12/2025 06:38

No, it’s money. Could be the affordability of medical treatment and carers as TM’s health has not been good for a while.

He would surely qualify for medicaid or medicare in the US, or whatever one applies to pensioners on SS.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/12/2025 07:24

prelovedusername · 12/12/2025 06:38

No, it’s money. Could be the affordability of medical treatment and carers as TM’s health has not been good for a while.

How do we know this?

Why is he so poor if he is? He had a great job, sent at least one daughter to a very expensive school.

RedTagAlan · 12/12/2025 07:33

prelovedusername · 12/12/2025 06:38

No, it’s money. Could be the affordability of medical treatment and carers as TM’s health has not been good for a while.

I looked it up.

Healthcare Costs in the Philippines for Expats | Alea

Unlikely to get international insurance if been ill for a long time.

Cheaper than the US, but I don't know how it works for Americans in the US who are on SS and medicaid.

Mexico is cheaper than the US too, and it is a popular medical tourism destination for Americans.

Healthcare in Mexico: Overview of Costs & Plans Available in 2025 (internationalliving.com)

I still say lifestyle choice. Because he was already in Mexico, so why go to the Phills ?

Healthcare Costs in the Philippines for Expats | Alea

Understand healthcare costs in the Philippines for expats, including public and private hospital fees, insurance options, and essential cost insights from Alea.

https://alea.care/resources/cost-health-Philippines

EmpressSisi · 12/12/2025 07:40

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/12/2025 07:24

How do we know this?

Why is he so poor if he is? He had a great job, sent at least one daughter to a very expensive school.

Didn’t he invest badly and lose it all? And I remember reading he was very generous towards his children after winning the lottery. He spent money to privately educate Meghan at a top school and gave money to Thomas Jnr so that he could start up a flower shop business. I suppose he did something equally generous for Samantha too. All of that would have eaten up a bit chunk of his winnings too.

OhDear111 · 12/12/2025 07:46

The DM will be careful about what it prints. MM will be litigious if it’s made up.

Americans pay into savings accounts for college fees for years. They often have substantial money saved. They don’t pay it out of current earnings and there’s loads of discounts available and scholarships. This isn’t proof of him having money at all. Who goes to live in the Philippines if you have enough to get care and stay in USA? He’s living in a cheap flat there and his son is there too. They have been there since January.

kirinm · 12/12/2025 08:24

Attacking her but her dad being on speed dial to numerous journalists and having a DM journalist by his bedside - that’s all absolutely fine and he’s just a stand up father.

She didn’t write to him, oh she did but she didn’t do it soon enough, he’s got a journalist by his side but that’s okay because someone should he even though said journalist put him on the front page when he’s supposedly sick, he should have someone advocating for him and it should be Meghan for some wild reason even though he constantly sells her out.

Posters are so consumed with hatred for her that what is undeniably disgusting from the media and her father is somehow her fault!

BoxingHares22 · 12/12/2025 08:55

OhDear111 · 12/12/2025 07:46

The DM will be careful about what it prints. MM will be litigious if it’s made up.

Americans pay into savings accounts for college fees for years. They often have substantial money saved. They don’t pay it out of current earnings and there’s loads of discounts available and scholarships. This isn’t proof of him having money at all. Who goes to live in the Philippines if you have enough to get care and stay in USA? He’s living in a cheap flat there and his son is there too. They have been there since January.

I think her fees were paid for by a lottery win which was spent a long time ago.

Phase42 · 12/12/2025 09:40

Re the wrapping of the wine bottle....crazy! When wine bottle bags are so perfect for the job and easily reusable.

LaMarschallin · 12/12/2025 09:47

Phase42 · 12/12/2025 09:40

Re the wrapping of the wine bottle....crazy! When wine bottle bags are so perfect for the job and easily reusable.

She's got nothing on Jackie. I remember an article in my Jackie annual one year showing how to wrap things - the one that stands out in my memory was how to wrap a tennis racket so it looked like a bunch of flowers.
They didn't give bottles as presents in the Jackie days of yore, but I bet they could have come up with something better than a scarf.

Talltreesbythelake · 12/12/2025 10:03

Phase42 · 12/12/2025 09:40

Re the wrapping of the wine bottle....crazy! When wine bottle bags are so perfect for the job and easily reusable.

It does look cute when done correctly. Here is a lovely tutorial on the Japanese art,

Meghan Markle Wrapping a Wine Bottle - YouTube

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WO4F_oZdREM

lickingfingertastingfood · 12/12/2025 10:59

Phase42 · 12/12/2025 09:40

Re the wrapping of the wine bottle....crazy! When wine bottle bags are so perfect for the job and easily reusable.

Yes but don't you know you just pick up beautiful silk scarves in thrift shops just for this purpose? Give me a break ! 🙄

lickingfingertastingfood · 12/12/2025 11:02

kirinm · 12/12/2025 08:24

Attacking her but her dad being on speed dial to numerous journalists and having a DM journalist by his bedside - that’s all absolutely fine and he’s just a stand up father.

She didn’t write to him, oh she did but she didn’t do it soon enough, he’s got a journalist by his side but that’s okay because someone should he even though said journalist put him on the front page when he’s supposedly sick, he should have someone advocating for him and it should be Meghan for some wild reason even though he constantly sells her out.

Posters are so consumed with hatred for her that what is undeniably disgusting from the media and her father is somehow her fault!

As someone else said this day was always going to come and should have been thought about beforehand. As usual the two don't see any further than the end of their noses.

IcedPurple · 12/12/2025 11:23

Phase42 · 12/12/2025 09:40

Re the wrapping of the wine bottle....crazy! When wine bottle bags are so perfect for the job and easily reusable.

Wrapping a wine bottle in slippery fabric seems like an accident waiting to happen.

If only there were a wide selection of pretty bags specifically designed to hold bottles! The #pippatips aspect of it all is cracking me up.

BasiliskStare · 12/12/2025 11:27

lickingfingertastingfood · 12/12/2025 10:59

Yes but don't you know you just pick up beautiful silk scarves in thrift shops just for this purpose? Give me a break ! 🙄

If I picked up a beautiful silk scarf in a thrift shop that would be the present , not the wrapping. 😂

And yes , I do realise it can be both.

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ThePoshUns · 12/12/2025 11:42

Michael Pavano on instagram does a funny take of her wrapping wine in a scarf.
’ You could use Gucci or failing that, Prada!’
He’s a great mimic.

AtIusvue · 12/12/2025 11:47

kirinm · 12/12/2025 08:24

Attacking her but her dad being on speed dial to numerous journalists and having a DM journalist by his bedside - that’s all absolutely fine and he’s just a stand up father.

She didn’t write to him, oh she did but she didn’t do it soon enough, he’s got a journalist by his side but that’s okay because someone should he even though said journalist put him on the front page when he’s supposedly sick, he should have someone advocating for him and it should be Meghan for some wild reason even though he constantly sells her out.

Posters are so consumed with hatred for her that what is undeniably disgusting from the media and her father is somehow her fault!

Sure 👍

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AtIusvue · 12/12/2025 11:56

Well it fits under PR disaster. Harry’s court case in January….things don’t look good for the claimants ….at all!

This Telegraph article reveals that more evidence the claimants have, are baseless.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/12/11/prince-harrys-phone-hacking-case-suffers-another-blow/

https://archive.ph/aTxGs

This is from a Reddit poster who helpfully broke it down:

‘Baroness Lawrence's Case (One of the Seven Claimants):
Her witness statement claimed Jonathan Rees confirmed he bugged her for the Daily Mail. What she says was confirmed? That the landline was tapped, voicemails were hacked, and covert electronic surveillance.
Jonathan Rees to Dispatches:
"I didn't get involved."
When told her witness statement is based on your confirmation that you had done the bugging operation
Rees replied: "Right, well they're going to have to rethink that, and their legal team is going to have to re-think that."

Baroness Lawrence's entire case is based on confirmation from a guy who now says he didn't do it.
Enter Gavin Burrows (private investigator).
He provided a witness statement claiming he did bugging/hacking for Associated on Harry's behalf. BUT Burrows now says Statement was "false" and his signature was "forged"

Why this matters?

Burrows's claims were instrumental in getting Baroness Lawrence to join the lawsuit. Tracking?
H used Burrows's evidence to recruit other claimants. Still tracking? Good.
ENTER GRAHAM JOHNSON THE PAID RESEARCHER

Who is he?

Former tabloid journalist, convicted of phone hacking, admitted making up stories in his career, now paid £160/hour as researcher to H’s legal team.

Now, what did the Dispatchers find?

Jonathan Rees claims Johnson approached him 7 years ago offering high rewards for information against tabloids, £2,500/month for life for information that would add credence to legal claims.
Rees has no proof, but multiple private detectives say Johnson approached them. That’s something, that counts.

Let’s move on to the Max Mosley Connection
Johnson's company Yellow Press received a £500,000 loan from Max Mosley's company before Mosley died (‘21). Mosley was obsessed with destroying tabloids after his own scandal, and Yellow Press publishes memoirs from journalists/PIs whose info appears in lawsuits against newspapers.
Hugh Grant funded Johnson's research into Daily Mail/Ian Huntley rumors but says: "I have never used the services of Graham Johnson... for evidence gathering for litigation of any kind."

SO WHAT TF DOES THIS MEAN??

H’s legal team did what?
Used a convicted phone hacker who admitted making up stories as paid researcher
That researcher potentially offered £2,500/month bribes for information
Was funded by Max Mosley's vendetta money
Produced witness statements that are now being recanted or called forged
The judge already warned them (days ago, discussed here ) about the £38m costs and inadequate insurance. Now their evidence base is collapsing.
Trial starts January. If Baroness Lawrence's case crumbles (because Rees denied it), and Burrows recanted his statement, and the paid researcher is a convicted phone hacker allegedly bribing witnesses... Then?’

Access Restricted

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/12/11/prince-harrys-phone-hacking-case-suffers-another-blow

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Jaffyyy · 12/12/2025 12:04

Who has been driving and funding all of this to date @AtIusvue ?

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