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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 08:55

In the unlikely event that 24/7 armed security is provided , I am fairly sure Meghan will find another reason to stay away ( with the DC).

AutumnCrown · 08/12/2025 09:04

And as a result of this review, Harry’s security could be downgraded as easily as it could be maintained or altered.

I presume that the Risk Assessment Board will look at Harry’s own behaviour and choices, such as his and Meg’s stoking of the stans, his accommodation decisions of late, what his plans are for Invictus in Birmingham (especially as he’s welcomed the Israeli IDF - big headache for the UK government), his propensity for knocking on random doors in London, his admitted and known lifestyle and how he chooses to earn money, his recent political comments - all of it, in the round.

He’s grown his own reputation and profile as a disrespectful liability. The risk Harry perceives is not without context. Taxpayer funded security is not handed out according to accident of birth, much as Harry would like it be.

I think security arrangements will likely remain on a visit-by-visit basis.

Talltreesbythelake · 08/12/2025 09:11

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 08:55

In the unlikely event that 24/7 armed security is provided , I am fairly sure Meghan will find another reason to stay away ( with the DC).

How can this be provided for someone who doesn't live here? Would we pay for 3 shifts of specialist officers to sit at Costa in Heathrow on the off chance that H flies in unexpectedly?

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 09:25

At the moment H has to provide 28 days notice that he is honouring the U.K. with his presence and he objects to that .
Presumably there are exceptions such as when he dashed over to see Pa following his cancer diagnosis.
The bottom line is that he wants what William has .

Thedom · 08/12/2025 09:43

How convenient they release that little nugget on a Sunday of all days. Such obvious diversion tactics and why are they suddenly working with their hated British tabloids.

StartupRepair · 08/12/2025 10:16

They have always been so messy somehow communicating life events. Remember the muddle around Archie's birth when they announced Meghan's labour after he was born.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/12/2025 11:30

*I’d have thought it’s very unlikely that his risk will have increased from 5 years ago - if anything surely more likely to have decreased as he becomes less and less relevant8

You'd think so, @elessar, but if further "risks" are needed to buttress Harry's whining then I'm pretty confident further "risks" will be invented

Basically I can't believe the whole ugly mess is rearing it's head again, so hope AutumnCrown was right about it just being the media stirring things up

Jaffyyy · 08/12/2025 11:32

It’s delusional grandiosity that MM, herself, single handedly, can control the worldwide media and their depiction of her reputation - especially when she tries to hoodwink them with her diversionary spin of ‘inaccurate’ word salad.

No one is capable of that against huge, complex media outlets.

She is just fuelling the fire - she’s handing them the bullets to shoot her with - and the media get the clicks and the $$$$ so they are happy to keep provoking her to clap back.

elessar · 08/12/2025 11:40

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/12/2025 11:30

*I’d have thought it’s very unlikely that his risk will have increased from 5 years ago - if anything surely more likely to have decreased as he becomes less and less relevant8

You'd think so, @elessar, but if further "risks" are needed to buttress Harry's whining then I'm pretty confident further "risks" will be invented

Basically I can't believe the whole ugly mess is rearing it's head again, so hope AutumnCrown was right about it just being the media stirring things up

Oh I’m 100% confident that the input from Harry’s “team” will have a dossier full of major threats that demonstrate he’s in life threatening danger at all times.

But given that the police and the intelligence services also input into this, my assumption is that their assessment of threats and the severity thereof is given far more weight than Harry’s dramatic stories.

It would be hard to imagine his risk profile has increased - although he’s the son rather than grandson of the monarch now, he’s been so far distanced from the RF in the last few years that his political importance as a target must be far lower.

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 11:55

elessar · 08/12/2025 11:40

Oh I’m 100% confident that the input from Harry’s “team” will have a dossier full of major threats that demonstrate he’s in life threatening danger at all times.

But given that the police and the intelligence services also input into this, my assumption is that their assessment of threats and the severity thereof is given far more weight than Harry’s dramatic stories.

It would be hard to imagine his risk profile has increased - although he’s the son rather than grandson of the monarch now, he’s been so far distanced from the RF in the last few years that his political importance as a target must be far lower.

Anne and Edward managed for years without 24/7 security so I am sure Harry can when he pats a fleeting visit .,

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/12/2025 12:34

Given that the police and the intelligence services also input into this, my assumption is that their assessment of threats and the severity thereof is given far more weight than Harry’s dramatic stories

I've no doubt they are, @elessar, and rightly so, but Harry's already made clear that he thinks they're all part of an establishment stitch-up so I doubt this will suit

As we've seen so often it's HIS narrative which matters, and if anyone disagrees ... well, they're only the little people after all Hmm

lickingfingertastingfood · 08/12/2025 12:50

Jaffyyy · 08/12/2025 11:32

It’s delusional grandiosity that MM, herself, single handedly, can control the worldwide media and their depiction of her reputation - especially when she tries to hoodwink them with her diversionary spin of ‘inaccurate’ word salad.

No one is capable of that against huge, complex media outlets.

She is just fuelling the fire - she’s handing them the bullets to shoot her with - and the media get the clicks and the $$$$ so they are happy to keep provoking her to clap back.

This is the classic tale of the Boy who called Wolf. She has lied so much that no one believes her even if it is true. Her fault.

lickingfingertastingfood · 08/12/2025 12:54

AutumnCrown · 08/12/2025 09:04

And as a result of this review, Harry’s security could be downgraded as easily as it could be maintained or altered.

I presume that the Risk Assessment Board will look at Harry’s own behaviour and choices, such as his and Meg’s stoking of the stans, his accommodation decisions of late, what his plans are for Invictus in Birmingham (especially as he’s welcomed the Israeli IDF - big headache for the UK government), his propensity for knocking on random doors in London, his admitted and known lifestyle and how he chooses to earn money, his recent political comments - all of it, in the round.

He’s grown his own reputation and profile as a disrespectful liability. The risk Harry perceives is not without context. Taxpayer funded security is not handed out according to accident of birth, much as Harry would like it be.

I think security arrangements will likely remain on a visit-by-visit basis.

I hope they consider all of Harry's trips to other countries like Colombia, Nigeria, Ukraine etc - oh but Harry had people standing around him with Kevlar shields. Is this what he thinks he needs in the UK? Oh and forget about Meghan 😂

As ever and PR disasters continued
Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 13:00

elessar · 08/12/2025 11:40

Oh I’m 100% confident that the input from Harry’s “team” will have a dossier full of major threats that demonstrate he’s in life threatening danger at all times.

But given that the police and the intelligence services also input into this, my assumption is that their assessment of threats and the severity thereof is given far more weight than Harry’s dramatic stories.

It would be hard to imagine his risk profile has increased - although he’s the son rather than grandson of the monarch now, he’s been so far distanced from the RF in the last few years that his political importance as a target must be far lower.

A couple of years ago H was leaving an event in London and claimed that his car was chased by paps .
Strangely, despite driving past hundreds of CCTV cameras, no footage was found showing a chase .
And the “ stalker” is a member of the squad .

IcedPurple · 08/12/2025 13:25

Mylovelygreendress · 08/12/2025 13:00

A couple of years ago H was leaving an event in London and claimed that his car was chased by paps .
Strangely, despite driving past hundreds of CCTV cameras, no footage was found showing a chase .
And the “ stalker” is a member of the squad .

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Even if he had a genuine stalker or was 'chased by paps' that wouldn't mean that his security should be upgraded. Lots of celebrities, especially women, have fixated 'fans'. In most cases, private unarmed security is adquate. If not, it's a matter for the police. But as Harry does not reside in Britain, it's hard to imagine he could have a dedicated 'stalker' there.

Being 'chased by paps' doesn't really happen anymore. We all know he's trying to play the Diana card here.

The reality is that Harry already has the most generous security arrangements his circumstances and status allow. A 'review' isn't going to change that.

lickingfingertastingfood · 08/12/2025 15:01

I would think it's more dangerous for him in the USA - acting like an ass on tv mocking the President and has mocked the Constitution before. We know there are loads of crazies there .

BasiliskStare · 08/12/2025 15:14

I too suspect this is a regular review and not as a result of H writing to the HS. If it is at his behest I shan't be frothing , but I may treat myself to a "Gordon Bennett" and a sort of "What now?" head shake. 😊

ThePoshUns · 08/12/2025 16:03

Yes it sounds like a regular assessment of risk rather than a change of heart.

IcedPurple · 08/12/2025 16:17

lickingfingertastingfood · 08/12/2025 15:01

I would think it's more dangerous for him in the USA - acting like an ass on tv mocking the President and has mocked the Constitution before. We know there are loads of crazies there .

Armed crazies too.

BasiliskStare · 08/12/2025 16:53

I don't know this shop (infer the not "glitzy international celebrity circles" I move in ) but is this a good look? I suppose George Clooney isn't bad company. Apparently these windows are a tradition.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15363553/Meghan-Markle-dubbed-holiday-hypocrite-LA-boutiques-rogues-gallery-2025-villains-Montecito-diva.html

NautilusLionfish · 08/12/2025 17:05

Jaffyyy · 07/12/2025 22:45

What’s the hand written note to achieve ? Is it to avoid talking to him on the phone - or the call being intercepted by TMjr? It’s not a dialogue or a two way street - it just puts her in a more controlled position. She clearly doesn’t want to hear from her DF or speak with him - just slap a note out to cover her back.

To be fair it will be elevated, with her beautiful calligraphy, may be biodegradable glitter, and a sprinkle of flowers. Also the package will likely include a beautifully wrapped bottle of As Ever wine and jar of jam, and an organic honey stick.

But honestly, Dailymail and the tabloids need to leave them alone and so should we.

IcedPurple · 08/12/2025 17:23

NautilusLionfish · 08/12/2025 17:05

To be fair it will be elevated, with her beautiful calligraphy, may be biodegradable glitter, and a sprinkle of flowers. Also the package will likely include a beautifully wrapped bottle of As Ever wine and jar of jam, and an organic honey stick.

But honestly, Dailymail and the tabloids need to leave them alone and so should we.

Genuinely curious as to why two individuals who actively and enthusiastically put themselves in the public eye ought to be 'left alone'?

BasiliskStare · 08/12/2025 18:08

No-one knows what goes on in other people's families. Sometimes I would say people don't know what goes on in their own families. So they should be left alone. From the outside it looked like H&M weren't supporting a man who was vulnerable to journalists. I think even HLMTQ suggested they supported him more ( but let us not speak of the mistakes she Late Queen has made with her own family on this thread ) . I jut think it is a sad situation as she M clearly publicly praised her father at some point. But who knows , not me. If there is a big rift for a reason , she's entitled not to see him. But she doesn't need to explain that. If there isn't a big rift then mayhap too little too late. But again , I don't know. Sad all ways round

ThePoshUns · 08/12/2025 18:41

IcedPurple · 08/12/2025 17:23

Genuinely curious as to why two individuals who actively and enthusiastically put themselves in the public eye ought to be 'left alone'?

Exactly not only have they sought publicity but deliberately invaded others privacy, they deserve nothing.

NautilusLionfish · 08/12/2025 19:45

Talltreesbythelake · 08/12/2025 09:11

How can this be provided for someone who doesn't live here? Would we pay for 3 shifts of specialist officers to sit at Costa in Heathrow on the off chance that H flies in unexpectedly?

no. if it were upgraded he would be provided the highest security when he comes without having to give 28 day notice. I dont think much will change even in terms of costs. they might also share security intelligence with his security team. why not?

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