Andrew to lose Duke of York title

[Flixon]

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

There's a big difference. He is not using them. He still retains them.

Is he still a Counsellor of State... thats a bigger issue than some robes really.

Yes it’s left unclear: is “in abeyance” royal speak for “stripped”? I suppose when you’re talking about hundreds of years of titles never being owned, just embodied in this person or that, “in abeyance” could mean “removed from this person”.

Or it could mean “he still has it, it’s just suspended”, like a kid suspended from school is still technically a student of that school.

Then the BBC are wrong.

The BBC news said he had given up the title. It could only be removed from him by an act of parliament so he had to give it up. He is no longer The Duke of York. There is dwindling some face saving being allowed in his statement but the facts are he isn't HRH, he isn't a royal Duke and he isn't a Knight if the Garter anymore.

Nothing is in abeyance. He has not been stripped of anything.

I wonder if Prince William had a hand in this. There have been rumours going back to the early 2010s that William doesn't have a great relationship with the Yorks.

He didn't have a relationship with her, she was a victim of trafficking

He is still an HRH. He has not given up the title.

Knight of the Garter is not clear yet.

I think 'in abeyance' is a bit more than just not going to use his titles.

He didnt break any laws thats what I meant. I dont mind him or her but someones sex life is no ones business

The BBC, which I've turned on to see what is happening, is talking about pressure being put on him to voluntarily give the titles up. So yes he had to do it but they basically made him.

Sorry what?

These were poor women and girls abused by disgusting perverts/paedophiles.

Too right, about bloody time!

He didn't have "a relationship" with her. He fucked her after she was trafficked by convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and convicted child sex offender Ghillane Maxwell.

Well I'm glad to hear that, thanks for reporting on that OP.
I don't go out of my way to read up on the royals, and I think this demotion of title that Andrew has carried, and Sarah Ferguson as well , for a long time, should be a well deserved humiliation for them both

Yes. Exactly. His title is not in abeyance, because he still has it.

I think it's a protective move designed to distance the core of the family from him and therefore protect the monarchy. I get the feeling the sh** hasn't all hit the fan yet in terms of his past. If there's more scandal to come I imagine they want as much distance as possible.

Sorry that was in response to someone asking what does this mean. Not got the hang of replying!!

I bet he's sweating now 😅

He hasn't given up his titles.

Would someone like to take this over from me? I have to make some food 😆

You are absolutely right. I’ll join you x

He hasn't been stripped, he was pressured to give them up voluntarily, according to the BBC I don't really care about the mechanics to be honest I'm just glad it happened. It's a really big thing as far as he is concerned.

I couldn't care less what consenting adults get up to in their sex life, but presumably certain standards of conduct are expected of the head of the church?

How interesting. Place marking to read later. I'm also going to go nuts and attempt a bookmark and maybe even that will work, who knows?

HE HAS NOT GIVEN UP HIS TITLES

Published 17 October 2025

In discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family. I have decided, as I always have, to put my duty to my family and country first. I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life.

With His Majesty’s agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me.

https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2025-10-17/a-statement-by-prince-andrew