Andrew to lose Duke of York title

[Flixon]

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

I think they’re getting everything in order for William taking over. It seems odd it’s took him 5 years to do this otherwise.
and, I don’t think it’ll be long before Harry is also struck off the list!
Tying up the loose ends!

You can even see the pompousness dripping from his statement, he’s never once put his country first, never once, he has always put himself first.

Yes that part of his statement was laughable! When has he put his country first? I doubt even during his apparent hero time in the Falklands he gave a stuff about anyone but making himself look good and possibly defending Mummy's realm.

Ha, no chance

We agree that if things worked equally for the wealthy and poor then Andy & Donald would be in a dock. Regrettably, however, that doesn't happen, and we have to be happy with the crumbs of justice that we are given.

And I doubt very much whether the financial arrangements are 100% squeaky clean that move through the Delaware-registered ‘Archewell Foundation’. There’s also the matter of H’s charity involvements, a number of which are allegedly floating around tits-up territory.

Then there’s the Sussex friendship with the Yorks (all of them, not just Beatrice (37) and Eugenie (35)), and possibly some mutual tutelage around grifting and their beloved ‘birth right’ entitlement. I wonder how far back the friendships really go?

And as you say, Soho House - I’m curious about its funding and its client list, the role of Markus Anderson, and the role of M and latterly H.

Rich pickings for Lownie or a similar author.

5 years?? What did the former Prince of Wales fail to do 5 years ago?

Two presidents Clinton and Trump are also associated with Epstein, Andrew will never see inside a prison cell, while there are others with equally as much to lose.

I think his character flaws have been magnified by his upbringing and the institution.

If I were Prince William I would be less concerned about Andrew and Harry, and more worried about the need to prevent my own children from being eaten by the toxicity of the world they live in.

Fascinating interview with Andrew Lownie on BBC this morning

He says there is far far more to come out. From the Epstein files, from Virginia Guiffre's book, from another book by a survivor of Epstein, and the fact Epstein survivors are going to Capitol Hill again.
They are not giving up. Strong women
Lownie also hinted at illegal financial activities by the Yorks

Something tells me that this action of retiring titles is because of what is going to be coming up

None of us know (an assumption as some on here might know PA well) , the comments about his personality are irrelevant, there are plenty of people in public life who may be entitled ir not that polite. The fact remains he is innocent, has not been charged with anything

Yes totally innocent. People give £10million+ to someone they say they've never met, all the time

Just my opinion but i think the King is far more unwell than we have been led to believe and Andrew jumped before he was pushed by the future King William.

The comments about his personality are relevant to his current predicament (social outcast, titles removed).

here is Emily Maitlis's thoughts on Andrew and his lying

www.thenewsagents.co.uk/article/prince-andrews-epstein-email-sent-a-shiver-down-my-spine-says-emily-maitlis-5HjdFLJ_2/

Saville and Sutcliffe.

That bit about the speed bump is brilliant! But KC can’t have engineered that, surely?

And maybe there's even more to come out about something

The strength of the Epstein survivors is mind-blowing

....or even a court room

Princess Andrew of … Nowhere.

More’s the pity. Clearly something rotten in the state of Denmark (and the US, and the UK).

Thank you, I guessed maybe Saville but the other one had me stumped.

For me, the extra marital sex wasn’t the issue. It was the way he treated Diana. I remember their engagement interview - Diana was clearly besotted with him and he came across as indifferent. A reporter asked if they were in love and when she answered ‘of course’ he followed it up with ‘whatever being in love means’.

Diana was treated like a brood mare and left to her own devices after she had given him his heirs, while he never stopped seeing Camilla. Had she lived, Diana would have had the humiliation of watching Charles make Camilla queen. I don’t know what’s worse, that all of it was swept under the carpet in a concerted effort to change public opinion regarding Camilla, or the fact that the public fell for it and promptly forgot that she was a willing participant in the misery Diana suffered.

I wonder if he makes his staff call him HRH - like the Duke of Windsor made his call Wallis HRH?

I'd put folding money on his doing so.