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Andrew to lose Duke of York title

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Flixon · 17/10/2025 18:36

News banner from the Torygraph saying Andrew and Sarah are losing their titles. They will be ‘put into Abeyance’ Andrew also to lose the Order of the Garter. Sarah will be known as Sarah Ferguson, he retains ‘Prince’ as he is the son of HM QE2.

bloody good job !

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caringcarer · 17/10/2025 20:22

Traceysgoingtobelivid · 17/10/2025 18:51

It’s only something the King is considering according to the Independent, it’s not actually happened.

It has happened.

BIossomtoes · 17/10/2025 20:22

Superhansrantowindsor · 17/10/2025 19:56

How have they persuaded him to do this?
what new revelations are coming?

I reckon he’s been paid off.

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:22

CathyorClaire · 17/10/2025 20:19

Haven't RTFT but from what I've seen reported slapped wrists and toothless tigers spring to mind.

I imagine the palace PR team are spinning fruitlessly as I type.

As he wasn't a working royal there wasn't much else they could do. I think mostly this is something that will matter to Andrew rather than anyone else. Since no one can apparently prosecute him at least he's lost the titles. It isn't enough but they have removed something from the person they matter most to.

I agree it's window dressing but window dressing sometimes is important however trivial in the grand scheme of things. The BBC is being really very interesting about the impact of this.

Teddy589 · 17/10/2025 20:23

What a horrible, horrible man - this is not before time. Although I can imagine Meghan on the phone right now, wondering if she can be the next DoY!

caringcarer · 17/10/2025 20:23

I just wish the Sussex pair would have their Duke and Duchess titles taken away from them too.

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:24

Teddy589 · 17/10/2025 20:23

What a horrible, horrible man - this is not before time. Although I can imagine Meghan on the phone right now, wondering if she can be the next DoY!

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Don't be ridiculous. Anything Harry and her have done pales into insignificance to what he's been up to for decades

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:24

BIossomtoes · 17/10/2025 20:22

I reckon he’s been paid off.

Speculation from an expert on the beeb was that they threatened him and the trade off was that the daughters will still be in the fold if he does this.

Traceysgoingtobelivid · 17/10/2025 20:25

AtIusvue · 17/10/2025 20:02

KC could take the title of Prince away. He should have gone the whole hog.

I suspect once William is King, there will be many that lose the title of Prince and Princess. Andrew being the top of the list.

I agree, I think there will be sweeping changes when William is King, l think he will completely restructure the titles.

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:25

What I posted elsewhere
So let me get this right... daughters can still be called Princesses.
Sarah (ex wife of 30 years) can't sell any more books under the title Duchess of York (70 under her belt for that)
And Andrew? He will not 'use' his Duke of York title but he will retain the Dukedom because it can only be removed by an Act of Parliament.

anamo · 17/10/2025 20:25

There might be skeletons in all the RF's closets, and Andrew might just know where they are. Hence the optics of the garbled press reports that make it LOOK like he has been stripped of everything, but smoke and mirrors.

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:26

caringcarer · 17/10/2025 20:23

I just wish the Sussex pair would have their Duke and Duchess titles taken away from them too.

I disagree. They left as working royals but they haven't behaved like Andrew.

CathyorClaire · 17/10/2025 20:26

BIossomtoes · 17/10/2025 20:22

I reckon he’s been paid off.

I think the pay off may well be being allowed to continue residence in the ridiculously oversized gaffe without the 'C3's gunning to evict' sabre rattling.

Tiredofbullsit · 17/10/2025 20:27

JemimaTab · 17/10/2025 20:09

How much of the family are funded is a question in itself. Not just Royal Lodge, but also Bagshot or whatever it’s called, where Edward lives (it’s huge). I do wonder.
(Looking forward to Norman Baker’s new book which is apparently about the family’s finances).

I don’t mind that. They are working royals and have live somewhere!

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:27

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:26

I disagree. They left as working royals but they haven't behaved like Andrew.

Thank you.

They are a couple of berks but they are not creaming off any money anywhere like the pair of them (Andrew and Sarah) have done for decades

Read the Andrew Lownie book. 250 named sources and it is just completely and utterly gobsmacking what they have been doing

Peaknique · 17/10/2025 20:28

anamo · 17/10/2025 20:25

There might be skeletons in all the RF's closets, and Andrew might just know where they are. Hence the optics of the garbled press reports that make it LOOK like he has been stripped of everything, but smoke and mirrors.

Exactly. Not much has really happened, but it takes attention away from poor Virginia's book next week, plus the China stuff.

Teddy589 · 17/10/2025 20:29

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:24

Don't be ridiculous. Anything Harry and her have done pales into insignificance to what he's been up to for decades

Oh I absolutely agree with you, H&M have done nothing on this scale

Nottodaythankyou123 · 17/10/2025 20:29

soupyspoon · 17/10/2025 18:58

Has anything happened like this before?

Because scandals have happened throughout thousands years of history of rotten royals and idiots and I dont know if they lose their titles. They just plotted in the background in those days

A previous Duke of York was executed for treachery against his brother, and the title was retired for a long time. So it’s pretty tame in comparison!!

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:29

Yes, the China stuff is galling. How Andrew has carried on like this I. Do. Not. Know

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:29

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:25

What I posted elsewhere
So let me get this right... daughters can still be called Princesses.
Sarah (ex wife of 30 years) can't sell any more books under the title Duchess of York (70 under her belt for that)
And Andrew? He will not 'use' his Duke of York title but he will retain the Dukedom because it can only be removed by an Act of Parliament.

I think, because he only had girls, it will revert to the crown on his death if he hasn't formally given it up (and he may have done that going by the BBC). I doubt it will see the light of day again.

DreamTheMoors · 17/10/2025 20:29

Cynic17 · 17/10/2025 18:40

I have a vision of Princess Anne finally losing patience, getting on the blower to Andrew and giving him a bollocking, and telling him to agree to lose the titles etc for the sake of his King, and the memory of his beloved mother.
Who could resist her when she lays it out straight? 😂

I’m in California, a US citizen, not a UK citizen, but I’ve been watching the Royal Family from afar for decades.
Anne scares me. She’s so stern. Getting dressed down by her would be terrifying. I mean, didn’t she sass a car-jacker or something?
I’m not sure an Anne ass-chewing is survivable.
All that’s left of a person after an Anne ass-chewing would be toenails and elbows.
Watch for Prince elbows and his former wife toenails leaving Royal Lodge in their classy Range Rover.
lol

CathyorClaire · 17/10/2025 20:30

As he wasn't a working royal there wasn't much else they could do. I think mostly this is something that will matter to Andrew rather than anyone else

I think looking to be decisive and stern (while not actually doing much in practice) will matter greatly to C3 and his PR.

JemimaTab · 17/10/2025 20:31

Tiredofbullsit · 17/10/2025 20:27

I don’t mind that. They are working royals and have live somewhere!

The issue is more how do they pay for it - or who pays for it.

Tiredofbullsit · 17/10/2025 20:31

JemimaTab · 17/10/2025 20:14

I agree, it’s designed to look and feel like more than it is - in reality, nothing really changes.

You’re wrong. This will be massive to Andrew!

CoffeeCantata · 17/10/2025 20:31

AgentPidge · 17/10/2025 19:05

But the title is given to the second son of the monarch, so shouldn't Harry be given that title now? Or are titles not taken away when the there's a new monarch? I don't know much about this stuff (obviously!).

I think that title might be rested for a while….😂

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 20:31

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 20:29

Yes, the China stuff is galling. How Andrew has carried on like this I. Do. Not. Know

I wonder if all this noise with finally produce an enquiry into what on earth the government were doing sending Andrew round the globe in their name.

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