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Fergie Epstein email

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elprup · 21/09/2025 08:48

Yet more damaging revelations for the Yorks. How did the Daily Mail manage to get hold of the email I wonder?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118055/Fergie-Epstein-lies-exposed-bombshell-email-Andrew.html

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PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:17

NoelFurlong · 21/09/2025 10:40

Just when I thought Fergie couldn’t be any more reprehensible.

Princess Margaret was so right when she wrote to her and stated, ‘You have done more to bring shame on this family than could ever have been imagined.’

Charles needs to properly cut off both her and Andrew. Neither of their faces should be seen at any public events regarding the RF.

I don't think that they are at any events now, I'm guessing the Kents invited them out of courtesy. Fergie has been hand in glove with Epstein and I don't know how she gets away with so much. I think she's always been greedy and grasping.

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:18

SixSeven · 21/09/2025 10:10

They’re both pretty horrible, and need to get off the world stage.

However, I do not understand why ALL the focus is on these two and now Mandelson. Why is nothing coming out about the many Americans in the Epstein files? What’s really going on?

Good points. I wish it would just all come out. All the high profile names.

ACynicalDad · 21/09/2025 13:21

A brilliant line I saw this week, Trump likes to think he’s so close he’s like the King’s brother. Well, he is like Andrew, both are in the Epstein files.
Send Andrew and Fergie to be Governor of St Helena.

viques · 21/09/2025 13:24

LizzieSiddal · 21/09/2025 10:01

They are both vile nasty people who should fuck off quietly.

Did you see them pushing themselves to the front of the steps at Duchess of Kent’s Funeral? If they had an ounce of shame they’d have hid themselves at the back, they are not normal people.

It was horrible. And of all the funerals to choose to show your true colours at, I don’t have much time for any of them but the Duchess of Kent did seem to be a very genuine and kind person who trod her own path in the Rf and was all the better regarded for it. The York behaviour was appalling.

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:25

viques · 21/09/2025 13:24

It was horrible. And of all the funerals to choose to show your true colours at, I don’t have much time for any of them but the Duchess of Kent did seem to be a very genuine and kind person who trod her own path in the Rf and was all the better regarded for it. The York behaviour was appalling.

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I couldn't agree more. The late Duchess was everything that the Yorks are not.

viques · 21/09/2025 13:27

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:18

Good points. I wish it would just all come out. All the high profile names.

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I think it will, the Maxwell woman has already wangled herself a cushier prison, she will drip feed names until she gets a pardon, surprised Trump hasn’t given her one already, maybe he didn’t get invited to the really good parties.

HangingOver · 21/09/2025 13:30

Years ago I had reason to talk to her PR people on the phone a few times for work. They reminded me at the start of every call that she was always to be referred to as "The Duchess" throughout our conversation 🙄

piscofrisco · 21/09/2025 13:35

Jesus tonight. These people….what is the matter with them?

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:54

viques · 21/09/2025 13:27

I think it will, the Maxwell woman has already wangled herself a cushier prison, she will drip feed names until she gets a pardon, surprised Trump hasn’t given her one already, maybe he didn’t get invited to the really good parties.

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You think? I hope so. I've seen some very interesting names potentially involved, I hope it all comes out and those poor women and girls get justice.

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 13:54

piscofrisco · 21/09/2025 13:35

Jesus tonight. These people….what is the matter with them?

Arrogance, entitlement, stupidity, greed.....

diddl · 21/09/2025 13:58

It seems that there are no depths to which either of them wouldn't sink for money.

deeahgwitch · 21/09/2025 14:01

SixSeven · 21/09/2025 10:10

They’re both pretty horrible, and need to get off the world stage.

However, I do not understand why ALL the focus is on these two and now Mandelson. Why is nothing coming out about the many Americans in the Epstein files? What’s really going on?

My thoughts too @SixSeven

NautilusLionfish · 21/09/2025 14:08

HollyhockDays · 21/09/2025 10:12

I think Charles doesn’t really see it as an issue otherwise he would be much more decisive.

Andrew and Sarah are both addicted to being in the public eye in some way. I totally agree they should either not have gone to the funeral or been more discreet.

I had wondered if William would bring Eugenie and Bea back in to do royal engagements while his kids were young to spread the load a bit but I can’t see that happening now.

I suspect because this was another family's event? It seems always as if they feel they can't banish him from family events. Only official

NautilusLionfish · 21/09/2025 14:11

jumpingthehighjump · 21/09/2025 10:06

This is what I posted on the Andrew 100 emails to Epstein thread

They are a couple of grifting lying fools. Andrew was a barefaced liar on film to the public in his carcrash interview saying he had completely cut contact with Epstein, when he hadn't.

Now Sarah.
And what ridiculous language she uses. I made a gigantic error of judgement, I am so contrite I cannot say blah blah.
Followed by a grovelling apology to him. "I know you feel hellaciously let down by me. I deeply apologise to you and your heart. I write this from the truth of my heart. You are a supreme friend"
She wouldn't know the truth if it hit her on the head with a hammer. She's a bad liar.
The pathetic excuse she is using is beyond comprehension. She didn't want to lose her childrens book income stream. She obviously thinks the public are stupid to believe this guff.
I just do not get why Charles and the rest of them indulge him, like recently at the DoK's funeral. Of course he should attend anything to do with the family.
But why in god's name can't Charles say...
No, you will NOT walk in with us. You will be seated in the Church when we arrive.
No, you will not leave the Church with us, you will leave by a seperate door
No, your ex wife of 30 years need not attend.

Neither of you will ever be on camera again.

That and Mandelson's messages are like lovelorn teens desperate to have in with their first love. It's sickening

NautilusLionfish · 21/09/2025 14:20

SixSeven · 21/09/2025 10:10

They’re both pretty horrible, and need to get off the world stage.

However, I do not understand why ALL the focus is on these two and now Mandelson. Why is nothing coming out about the many Americans in the Epstein files? What’s really going on?

Indeed. It should all come out. Other than financially powerful people, others think releasing all documents is not/won't happen because some high profile western spy agents may have been part of this. Its strange because all trafficked women who have spoken so far say they never saw Trump engaged with young girls (doesn't mean he is not guilty of other sexual offences) so why is he reluctant to release the files? Even the current Dem-Rep committee that's been releasing info has just focused on minor tidbits, why not go scorched earth if they are really against sexual exploitation of vulnerable women and girls? And I feel like they threw us tidbits about Andrew and Mandelson then have gone quiet. Why?

ETA: there is a pic of Clinton getting a massage from a young woman. He is known to have gone there or used Epshite's private plane several times. Yet no emails from him? He never signed the infamous birthday card? He isn't getting back into politics and never will so why protect him?

Letmeoutodhere · 21/09/2025 14:22

The grovelling and sucking up is absolutely nauseating. She’s obviously desperately worried he would call the debt in. No more, no less. The pair of them are all about the money.

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 14:24

NautilusLionfish · 21/09/2025 14:20

Indeed. It should all come out. Other than financially powerful people, others think releasing all documents is not/won't happen because some high profile western spy agents may have been part of this. Its strange because all trafficked women who have spoken so far say they never saw Trump engaged with young girls (doesn't mean he is not guilty of other sexual offences) so why is he reluctant to release the files? Even the current Dem-Rep committee that's been releasing info has just focused on minor tidbits, why not go scorched earth if they are really against sexual exploitation of vulnerable women and girls? And I feel like they threw us tidbits about Andrew and Mandelson then have gone quiet. Why?

ETA: there is a pic of Clinton getting a massage from a young woman. He is known to have gone there or used Epshite's private plane several times. Yet no emails from him? He never signed the infamous birthday card? He isn't getting back into politics and never will so why protect him?

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His name has come up before - I wonder why there's tumbleweed there?

Letmeoutodhere · 21/09/2025 14:24

HangingOver · 21/09/2025 13:30

Years ago I had reason to talk to her PR people on the phone a few times for work. They reminded me at the start of every call that she was always to be referred to as "The Duchess" throughout our conversation 🙄

Who does that remind you of?

Lifestooshort71 · 21/09/2025 14:24

NautilusLionfish · 21/09/2025 14:08

I suspect because this was another family's event? It seems always as if they feel they can't banish him from family events. Only official

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I agree and perhaps KC3 thought, mistakenly, that they would creep in unnoticed at the back and then sidle off home - behave themselves in other words! I think Sarah needs to be barred totally from family events (they are divorced, fhs!) and Andrew, well, a stern talking to with firm boundaries set for the future but I don't think that is KC3 style tbh (more carry on muttering and hope he just buggers off ?). Would PW be up to holding a formal (disciplinary) meeting with palace advisors to back him and act as witnesses? I think he'd make a good fist of it if his father would just give him the nod.

MaMaMalenka · 21/09/2025 14:35

TheAutumnalCrow · 21/09/2025 10:56

Charles is acting very strangely over Andrew/Ferguson and Harry/Meghan.

Very strangely indeed.

Not so strangely, considering e.g. his friendship with Jimmy Saville :(

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 14:40

MaMaMalenka · 21/09/2025 14:35

Not so strangely, considering e.g. his friendship with Jimmy Saville :(

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Careful now, there's no evidence that he knew the full truth about Savile, any more than Thatcher, or many others, did. That man groomed a nation.

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 14:43

There were also his friendships with disgraced bishop Peter Ball and Laurens Van der Post, one of Prince William’s godfathers.

anotherside · 21/09/2025 15:21

CathyorClaire · 21/09/2025 11:06

I agree.

I think they all have skeletons in the cupboard, they all know the whereabouts of each others' and they're all shit scared of someone else unlocking their door.

None of them trust each other yet they all have to play together nicely for the cameras.

Awful insitution.

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Not just awful - but bizarre and flawed. Expecting a bunch of randoms chosen only for their DNA lineage to be wonderful model citizens for 70+ years is ridiculous in this day and age. As others have bsaid I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Charles has a few skeletons in his cupboard which will come out once he’s passed.

anotherside · 21/09/2025 15:24

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 14:40

Careful now, there's no evidence that he knew the full truth about Savile, any more than Thatcher, or many others, did. That man groomed a nation.

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He didn’t. He manipulated the BBC and a fair few other powerful institutions such as the Roayl Family. Quite a few people had their suspicions about him but they were shouted down- and suspicions and rumours about him were actually commonplace at the BBC and elsewhere (as Andrew Neil has stated). They didn’t think he was a great, normal guy - the BBC and others just prioritised his fame over listening to the allegations.

PoppysAunt · 21/09/2025 15:25

anotherside · 21/09/2025 15:24

He didn’t. He manipulated the BBC and a fair few other powerful institutions such as the Roayl Family. Quite a few people had their suspicions about him but they were shouted down- and suspicions and rumours about him were actually commonplace at the BBC and elsewhere (as Andrew Neil has stated). They didn’t think he was a great, normal guy - the BBC and others just prioritised his fame over listening to the allegations.

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He did. A lot of decent people were taken in.