Page 5 | Fergie Epstein email

elprup · 2025-09-21T07:48:48+00:00

Yet more damaging revelations for the Yorks. How did the Daily Mail manage to get hold of the email I wonder? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118055/Fergie-Epstein-lies-exposed-bombshell-email-Andrew.html

tara66 · 21/09/2025 23:43

Re Sarah Ferguson - no one has mentioned the outlandish and ghastly outfits she sometimes used to wear years ago - even on royal tours. No one stopped her and she always looked really pleased with herself!

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Friendlygingercat · 22/09/2025 00:46

I do not think KC3 wlll do anything about Andrew and Fergie. The RF are (in)famous for their ability to pretend it isnt happening and just hope that it will go away.

mathanxiety · 22/09/2025 01:08

CrushingOnRubies · 21/09/2025 23:13

I think King Charles is very much keep your friends closer and your enemies (well not quite) even closer when it comes to the Yorks. If he expelled them from Windsor grounds or wherever they live. Then who knows who they would mix with and get up to. ok they wouldn’t be royals but as far as press and lot of the public would be concerned they wouldn’t still be but without the control and that would be more dangerous. At least they can be kept an eye on and told to toe the line.

Agree.

And they probably have dirt on many of their relatives, which could be judiciously leaked to the odd journo for a price.

AliceMcK · 22/09/2025 01:25

They are all rotten to the core. I know Harry and Megan get slagged off on here but at least they had the balls to stand up to the cesspit Harry was born into and get out.

Ive never been a royalist but always felt they served a purpose, now I’d happily vote to be done with them all and become a republic.

TooTooMuchEverything · 22/09/2025 02:33

mamagogo1 · 21/09/2025 22:58

The problem is that like with so many of these situations, people only saw what they wanted to see until the press got wind. She went to nice events, wined and dined, private jet use perhaps and may not have personally seen anything illegal, or perhaps she didn’t ask questions about the plethora of younger women??? Who knows, do I think all of these caught up in the Epstein scandal knew about everything, no they didn’t, were they flattered to be invited and turned a blind eye perhaps subconsciously, yes. Whereas Andrew was definitely involved more, these others were more on the fringe i suspect. Fergie also needed money don’t forget

Timeline for Epstein. It’s interesting reading.

It starts in 2006

I’ve provided a link. How could either PA of his ex be unaware? Epstein time line

Thick as two short planks, the both of them?

Or willfully short of a sense of decency , the both of them?

They reflect badly on the royal Family.

I feel sorry for the victims. Wealth and power lend legitimacy to the wealthy and powerful that is not often deserved.

Amid fresh revelations, here are the key events in the Epstein saga

Interest in the 20-year-old case has exploded in recent months even as US President Donald Trump has urged the public to move on from what he deems a "pretty boring" saga.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-04/jeffrey-epstein-sex-abuse-case-timeline/105586018?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

IhateHPSDeaneCnt · 22/09/2025 05:00

Vile woman and so suited to spending life up the Royal collective arse. I always thought Fergie was a 'Beard' for Super Tosser's proclivities. Shouldn't be surprised how they passed on their Super Leech baton to offspring. Saying goes 'it will come out in wash'. Given what Ms Maxwell may have up her sleeve, one can only hope. After all, another suspicious death whilst incarcerated would be one too many in the white, wealthy, connected circles.

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 06:16

No, Maxwell is not saying a word. Trump behaved like an absolute gentleman she says (this is the man found guilty of sexual abuse and who likes to grab 'em by the pussy) and never saw any illegal activity by anyone linked to Epstein.
For keeping her trap shut, Trump has moved her to a cushy jail likened to a college campus

TooTooMuchEverything · 22/09/2025 06:59

It wouldn’t surprise me if, once the midterms are over, Trump pardons Maxwell.

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 08:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/09/2025 11:18

Insightful as ever, Cathy

It strikes me that there's not a great deal which has gone right since the late Queen died, and while ahe certainly wasn't blameless at least she commanded enough overall respect to keep the rest in some sort of order

Her heir, not so much

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Agree and I think this can be seen by allowing Cameo Camilla to be crowned Her Majesty Queen Camilla. 🤮

Letmeoutodhere · 22/09/2025 08:55

Mydahliasareshit · 21/09/2025 20:27

I had no idea until recent reports that Prince Philip and Fergie's mother Susan had a thing. Makes it all the more baffling that the Queen was possibly the jolliest we've ever seen her at the York's wedding.
It's a different earth they live in to the rest of us.

It’s all so incestuous. Anne was a former lover of Andrew PB. Charles having it off with Camilla under Andrew’s nose. None of them seem able to be faithful and all move in the same circles .

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:08

Letmeoutodhere · 22/09/2025 08:55

It’s all so incestuous. Anne was a former lover of Andrew PB. Charles having it off with Camilla under Andrew’s nose. None of them seem able to be faithful and all move in the same circles .

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You're right. Anne's ex husband having a child whilst still married to Anne. That wasn't a huge news story at the time and it died down very quickly
They're all at it!

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:09

stillavid · 21/09/2025 17:36

The late Queen should have dealt with Andrew and Harry more effectively. Seems like Charles is not really going to do anything either so will all be on William.

I reckon he is spending a lot of time at the moment planning how things are going to change when he is King but quite hard to have that conversation with his father.

The late Queen (a human being) was elderly, grieving for her husband and physically declining; and you think she should have dealt with Harry and Andrew (two despicable adult men) more effectively. 🙄

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:12

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:09

The late Queen (a human being) was elderly, grieving for her husband and physically declining; and you think she should have dealt with Harry and Andrew (two despicable adult men) more effectively. 🙄

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Yes I do. Because she knew decades ago what Andrew was doing. She spoke about her concerns about Andrew, his TE role and friendship with JE
She wasn't always elderly frail and grieving!
Harry was a different matter because that was towards the end of her life
Not Andrew though

Phase42 · 22/09/2025 09:16

What is wrong with these people?! They have it all - beautiful homes, patronages handed to them, etc. And still they are greedy, grasping with no morals.

Any charity associated with Ferguson should cut ties with immediate effect. And Publishers should also cut ties.

Phase42 · 22/09/2025 09:16

What is wrong with these people?! They have it all - beautiful homes, patronages handed to them, etc. And still they are greedy, grasping with no morals.

Any charity associated with Ferguson should cut ties with immediate effect. And Publishers should also cut ties.

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:23

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:12

Yes I do. Because she knew decades ago what Andrew was doing. She spoke about her concerns about Andrew, his TE role and friendship with JE
She wasn't always elderly frail and grieving!
Harry was a different matter because that was towards the end of her life
Not Andrew though

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You think she knew everything that her adult son was doing? I doubt it. He is and was an adult who made his own decisions and choices in life. Let him be accountable for his actions instead of blaming it on the late Queen.

This is what’s wrong with society. No accountability. People always find someone else to blame!

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 09:26

QE2 only stripped PA of his royal status and roles when she received a letter signed by 130 veterans. She had been told multiple times about his behaviour in the preceding decades. She ignored it all. The blame lies firmly at her door - and her husband's.

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:27

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:23

You think she knew everything that her adult son was doing? I doubt it. He is and was an adult who made his own decisions and choices in life. Let him be accountable for his actions instead of blaming it on the late Queen.

This is what’s wrong with society. No accountability. People always find someone else to blame!

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Yes she did know. You need to read up on it. Start off with Andrew Lownes book about the Yorks

She was advised time and time again there was a problem with his trade envoy role and who he was associating with.
She ignored the advice.

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:30

Blame the Queen for it all if you must. The blame lies with Andrew. He made his choices in life. He with all his privileges growing up chose to ignore right from wrong.

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:31

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 09:26

QE2 only stripped PA of his royal status and roles when she received a letter signed by 130 veterans. She had been told multiple times about his behaviour in the preceding decades. She ignored it all. The blame lies firmly at her door - and her husband's.

Thank you. Yes. I forgot about the veterans association letters.

QE2 only agreed to things when there's a public outcry like paying tax in 1993.

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 09:35

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 09:30

Blame the Queen for it all if you must. The blame lies with Andrew. He made his choices in life. He with all his privileges growing up chose to ignore right from wrong.

By your reckoning that means he's the only one to blame, he is quite within his rights to do exactly what he wants when he wants with no redress from his mother at the time, or now the king his brother
So no one can pull him up on anything as he's the one responsible for his decisions, him only

The Monarchy is called 'the firm' by them. Sounds like there are no rules and no one can admonish anyone else

CathyorClaire · 22/09/2025 09:50

For keeping her trap shut, Trump has moved her to a cushy jail likened to a college campus

Agree entirely.

She's edging towards freedom bit by bit.

I foresee a pardon in her not too distant future.

ColgateTotal · 22/09/2025 10:32

She did a lot in her reign and had a lot of duties in her role as Queen. I would like to see you do better. She was cherished by the nation and that was witnessed on her departure.

She cannot be blamed for what Andrew did anymore that Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwel’s mothers can be blamed for what they did.

The blame lies at the door of the perpetrators. It’s for the law to intervene and investigate and the same applies to Andrew.

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 10:48

She can be blamed for closing her ears and her eyes to what she was being told. She can be blamed for bailing him out. She can be blamed for enabling him in his life of debauchery and lies.

Futurehappiness · 22/09/2025 10:52

CrushingOnRubies · 21/09/2025 23:13

I think King Charles is very much keep your friends closer and your enemies (well not quite) even closer when it comes to the Yorks. If he expelled them from Windsor grounds or wherever they live. Then who knows who they would mix with and get up to. ok they wouldn’t be royals but as far as press and lot of the public would be concerned they wouldn’t still be but without the control and that would be more dangerous. At least they can be kept an eye on and told to toe the line.

Yet Charles seems to have no issue with distancing his own son Harry. It is bizarre to me how monarchists equate the behaviour of Harry with that of Andrew; all Harry is guilty of is choosing a separate path and stepping away from the monarchy. That seems to be the one unforgivable thing to monarchy's supporters; despite the fact that the right to choose one's own career is something that they and the rest of us would take for granted when it comes to ourselves.

Andrew otoh has maintained a close friendship with a sex trafficker and allegedly abused one of the victims - yet remains in the Royal fold. I just don't believe that an immensely privileged man like Charles couldn't distance himself from A if he wanted to; he had no difficulty distancing his son, or his first wife.

The difference between their treatment and the kid gloves approach to Andrew is striking. The Sussexes seem to make their own living; I suppose it is meant to be better to be grifters like the Yorks.

And it isn't working in making A 'toe the line'; he has just embarrassed them yet again through his behaviour at the DofK's funeral. And leaks about Epstein are going to continue to come out.