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Fergie Epstein email

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elprup · 21/09/2025 08:48

Yet more damaging revelations for the Yorks. How did the Daily Mail manage to get hold of the email I wonder?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118055/Fergie-Epstein-lies-exposed-bombshell-email-Andrew.html

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DreamTheMoors · 27/09/2025 02:36

SixSeven · 21/09/2025 10:10

They’re both pretty horrible, and need to get off the world stage.

However, I do not understand why ALL the focus is on these two and now Mandelson. Why is nothing coming out about the many Americans in the Epstein files? What’s really going on?

Besides Trump, what Americans?

The Trump administration is pulling a hundred different cats out of a hundred different hats to keep everybody’s attention occupied on everything BUT The Epstein Files,” which they have not released in totality.
They’re protecting some very important, wealthy individuals, whose names we don’t know.
Yet.

DreamTheMoors · 27/09/2025 03:03

inamo · 25/09/2025 15:23

Not my problem, they are no longer in UK. Why aren't the IRS or other investigative government departments onto this grifting. Off with their heads! They are private citizens now living in the US and are no longer leeching off the largesse of the Royal Family's dubious income. That's what matters to me, and they got away from a toxic family too. Good on them. It's the US's problem now, so if there's a problem, let Trump's administration investigate.

The IRS isn’t going after them because they aren’t doing anything wrong or illegal.
There’s just a lot of people who would like for them, or hope for them to be doing something wrong, or to be doing something illegal.

I’ll never understand the people who hope for the worst for a person they don’t even know.
It makes me feel bad.

stillavid · 27/09/2025 07:15

Interesting article today in the DM focusing on Beatrice and Eugenie - I am wondering what is not being said to be honest as quite an odd piece.

jumpingthehighjump · 27/09/2025 07:37

This bit is really objectionable, let's blame the dead Queen shall we?!

'They were assured by their mother that he was innocent and the fact that Granny [the late Queen] let their father carry on regardless was confirmation that Giuffre wasn't to be believed.
'They also found it difficult to believe that nice Jeffrey could be involved in anything so sordid.'

viques · 27/09/2025 08:07

Bladderpool · 27/09/2025 00:29

Andrew Lownie says in his book it was £2 million, not £15k so it’s quite widely known now that it was much more than she claimed.

Didnt know that. Not surprised.Grifters the pair of them.

ThePoshUns · 27/09/2025 08:43

There was a celebrity blind on X that the money was offered in exchange for access to one of the daughters- no names but can’t think who else would relate to. I wouldn’t take it seriously but who knows how low they would go?

Lifestooshort71 · 27/09/2025 08:49

ThePoshUns · 27/09/2025 08:43

There was a celebrity blind on X that the money was offered in exchange for access to one of the daughters- no names but can’t think who else would relate to. I wouldn’t take it seriously but who knows how low they would go?

That's a revolting uncorroborated smear - one of the many that shouldn't be repeated. How low can you get!

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/09/2025 08:56

stillavid · 27/09/2025 07:15

Interesting article today in the DM focusing on Beatrice and Eugenie - I am wondering what is not being said to be honest as quite an odd piece.

I saw that and assumed it was an attempt to distance the girls from their parents, absolve them of responsibility and enabled them to continue doing whatever it is they do.

ThePoshUns · 27/09/2025 10:04

Lifestooshort71 · 27/09/2025 08:49

That's a revolting uncorroborated smear - one of the many that shouldn't be repeated. How low can you get!

I not saying that was the deal but I wouldn’t put it past Epstein requesting it.

CathyorClaire · 27/09/2025 11:18

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/09/2025 08:56

I saw that and assumed it was an attempt to distance the girls from their parents, absolve them of responsibility and enabled them to continue doing whatever it is they do.

Probably too late for that given one accepted £25k from one of Daddy's dodgy friends without batting an eyelid until it was reported in the press, one spoke at the WEF (in what capacity?) and both (despite allegedly having 'careers') have repeatedly been gallivanting round the Middle East.

I don't think a bit of thinly veiled distancing and soft focus will cut the mustard now.

We need to know more.

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/09/2025 11:26

CathyorClaire · 27/09/2025 11:18

Probably too late for that given one accepted £25k from one of Daddy's dodgy friends without batting an eyelid until it was reported in the press, one spoke at the WEF (in what capacity?) and both (despite allegedly having 'careers') have repeatedly been gallivanting round the Middle East.

I don't think a bit of thinly veiled distancing and soft focus will cut the mustard now.

We need to know more.

I agree. I thought it was a pretty blatant attempt to keep at least part of the family in a position to bring in the money.

TooTooMuchEverything · 27/09/2025 11:37

Lifestooshort71 · 27/09/2025 08:49

That's a revolting uncorroborated smear - one of the many that shouldn't be repeated. How low can you get!

I agree. This subject matter is far too serious.

and celebrity blinds gossip are full of made up rubbish.

CathyorClaire · 27/09/2025 11:42

MrsLeonFarrell · 27/09/2025 11:26

I agree. I thought it was a pretty blatant attempt to keep at least part of the family in a position to bring in the money.

I think we have to assume that yet again the Yorks think the public will swallow any old guff just because.

Very irritating 😡

NewAgeNewMe · 27/09/2025 11:43

I can’t believe I missed this thread.
I’ve just downloaded the Lownie book onto my Spotify, if anyone has Spotify and doesn’t want to buy the book.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/09/2025 11:45

CathyorClaire · 27/09/2025 11:18

Probably too late for that given one accepted £25k from one of Daddy's dodgy friends without batting an eyelid until it was reported in the press, one spoke at the WEF (in what capacity?) and both (despite allegedly having 'careers') have repeatedly been gallivanting round the Middle East.

I don't think a bit of thinly veiled distancing and soft focus will cut the mustard now.

We need to know more.

Indeed, Cathy

It would be interesting to know exactly what they're doing in the middle east - especially whether it involves keeping daddy's contacts green - and I suspect that'll be another one for future headlines

Either way the media quite rightly left them alone when young, but that's unlikely to wash now

CutiePieOk · 27/09/2025 12:04

Get rid of all of them

stillavid · 27/09/2025 12:06

The girls are not children and I suspect they know a lot more about all the dodgy dealings than they are letting on.

I don't think either of their husbands are super rich so would be interested to know how they fund their seemingly lavish lifestyles but of course like all the Royals - there is no transparency when it comes to their finances.

I think that article today will have them all running scared - I bet the press know a lot more about how the Yorks are funding things but won't/can't print it quite yet.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/09/2025 12:17

I don't think either of their husbands are super rich ...

I believe Edoardo is said to be a multimillionaire, @stillavid; he founded Bando, a luxury property development company and I doubt he's short of a bob or two

Of course he also has form for dumping his fiance and mother of his child when he met Beatrice, so how he'll be reacting to this is anyone's guess

CagneyNYPD1 · 27/09/2025 13:47

Forgive me if this has already been covered but today the BBC are reporting that:

11th May 2000 Andrew in New York for a reception for NSPCC
12th May 2000 Andrew, JE and GM on flight together from New York to West Palm Beach
15th May 2000 Andrew back in UK

Separate docs show payments by JE for massages for “Andrew” in Feb and May 2000.

All this at the same time that GM met the then Virginia Roberts at Mar-a-Lago and “poached” her to work as a masseuse for JE at his house in Palm Beach.

Andrew disgusts me. Sarah disgusts me. They were both up to their neck with JE and GM because of their own foolishness, greed, selfishness, entitlement, immortality and wickedness. And they’ve stuck together all these years because it is safer that way. Vile people.

justasking111 · 27/09/2025 14:00

I assumed Eugenie had a home in Portugal on the resort that her husband manages and is selling homes to the Uber rich on that site.

There was a hoo-ha when the resort tried to claim the beach as private, booting off the locals and visitors in lesser holiday accommodation. That was quashed fortunately.

It's a beautiful area I'd love a holiday home there

LidlAmaretto · 27/09/2025 16:04

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/09/2025 11:45

Indeed, Cathy

It would be interesting to know exactly what they're doing in the middle east - especially whether it involves keeping daddy's contacts green - and I suspect that'll be another one for future headlines

Either way the media quite rightly left them alone when young, but that's unlikely to wash now

Exactly. As if having an art history degree and a ' job' in a gallery that allowed you to have as many holidays as you like gives you enough understanding of economics to speak at the WEF! Their only qualification is that they are members of the RF and the knowledge that they are all still clearly in with the family. Them and their parents.

Middlemarch123 · 27/09/2025 17:14

You all probably know this, but I just saw the news. The actress who played Sarah in a recently completed movie, called The Lady was interviewed. She said that following the recent events coming to light about Sarah and Epstein, she is distancing herself from the movie and refusing any promotion or appearances for it. Said it was totally against her moral values. Good for her, she came across really well.

justasking111 · 27/09/2025 17:40

To take those children within that monsters orbit has really disgusted me

LidlAmaretto · 27/09/2025 17:48

justasking111 · 27/09/2025 17:40

To take those children within that monsters orbit has really disgusted me

They probably didnt consider their ' Royal Blood' daughters as even the same species as the girls Epstein and his mates had hanging round.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/09/2025 18:13

Middlemarch123 · 27/09/2025 17:14

You all probably know this, but I just saw the news. The actress who played Sarah in a recently completed movie, called The Lady was interviewed. She said that following the recent events coming to light about Sarah and Epstein, she is distancing herself from the movie and refusing any promotion or appearances for it. Said it was totally against her moral values. Good for her, she came across really well.

I hadn't heard that, Middlemarch123, but how encouraging

That said I don't know what the movie's angle is, but if it's flattering (as the name suggests) I can quite see why it would be best kept away from

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