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Mildorado · 19/09/2025 15:17

DipsyDee · 19/09/2025 14:21

If the next year is all about Charles as Harry stated then you’d think that Harry would make the effort to bring his children to see Charles. It’s not just down to Megan to make this decision (but I bet this is exactly what she’s doing). Harry has to grow his ballad back and TELL her this is what is going to happen. If she doesn’t want to join them then she can stay at home.

Oh, it'll never be "all about Charles", because it is glaringly obvious that it's never about anyone other than Harry and Meghan.

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 15:23

DipsyDee · 19/09/2025 14:21

If the next year is all about Charles as Harry stated then you’d think that Harry would make the effort to bring his children to see Charles. It’s not just down to Megan to make this decision (but I bet this is exactly what she’s doing). Harry has to grow his ballad back and TELL her this is what is going to happen. If she doesn’t want to join them then she can stay at home.

Might not be as easy to enforce as just putting his foot down, in the event of disagreement! Meghan holds more cards.

binkie163 · 19/09/2025 15:31

I think some people have a very unrealistic idea of families. I come from a highly dysfunctional family, narc mother, weak enabler father. My dad never initiated nor expected contact or visits. I know he found my siblings children and great GC's a chore. The last family Christmas we did was 1993.

I doubt KC is that bothered, he has plenty of non bothersome family around if he wishes. I doubt he wants emotional confrontations or kids around it's exhausting. He wasn't a hands on parent I just don't imagine him wringing his hands over H or the children whatever the media say. I suspect KC is every bit as selfish, spoilt and attention seeking as H.
M certainly doesn't agonise about seeing her family.

Lots of families are LC or NC and don't think of them at all. If a member of your family had talked shit about you worldwide would you honestly want to visit or sit down to Xmas dinner with them and play nice, I bloody wouldn't.

Mylovelygreendress · 19/09/2025 15:31

notimagain · 19/09/2025 13:47

@IcedPurple

Why do you think the sick, elderly Head of State of 15 realms has to do all the running, and not his unemployed son and daughter in law?

Exactly.

H,M and family could book tickets tonight on one of the many airlines that operate from LAX into Heathrow....No protocol issues that I can think.of so it could be reconcilliation job jobbed PDQ if there was the will to do it and no blockers.

But apparently it isn’t safe for Meghan and the DC !

Needspaceforlego · 19/09/2025 15:37

BusWankers · 18/09/2025 21:30

There's being photographed with G, C and L at Polo or whatever....and there's having a photograph taken of the King and his heirs.

One is a snapshot of them caught up in every day life, another is a historical record.

If Charles had a posed photo taken of him with A and L, it would be an official record etc.

So unless there's an official photo of KC with Williams offspring, there shouldn't be one with Harry's really.

There are definitely official photos of Charles, William and George, I am also fairly sure there will be official group photos that also include Camilla, Kate, Charlotte and Louis.

Needspaceforlego · 19/09/2025 15:41

I posted too late, those were the photos I was thinking about

Akiwimum2 · 19/09/2025 15:48

Gingersky1234 · 17/09/2025 11:58

Woah, I was trying to engage in a measured debate but your post is far from that.

Unless, closely related, none of us know what their home environment is like surely?

What you have written is largely supposition.

You seem to have swallowed every tabloid article written about H&M and regurgitated it here. Whatever have they done to you to justify such vitriol?

It’s frankly ridiculous to say they spent five years generating media content “scoured from their own bitter, grandiose, delusional, angry, unreliable and unstable emotional ruminations” when this period of time, they have had been looking after two children, they have made content for Netflix, and they have both supported their charities.

You have no idea what their ruminations are and frankly, you sound rather unhinged!

You know; others in the RF have been outed as bullies and it’s certainly well documented from a number of different sources that a lot of them have tempers.

And yet posters continue to choose to focus on Meghan when Prince Andrew was hideous to staff and allegedly screamed at an aide and called them an imbecile, Prince Philip used to regularly shout at staff and his son Prince Charles, and we saw his temper on camera, directed at a photographer, Princess Anne went to court over her dog attacking two children in Windsor Great Park and her dog also attacked a housemaid and killed one of the Queen’s dogs.

The results of the BP investigation in to Meghan’s alleged bullying, conveniently made public a few days before the Oprah interview, never came to light! And Knopf who was the source of the e-mails alleging bullying worked for William and later received an award and a job; so can hardly be described as objective!

What concrete proof do you have that that H& M are “permanently preoccupied with toxic thoughts”?

Bluntly, it takes one to know one!

@Gingersky1234 Are you Harry?

BemusedAmerican · 19/09/2025 16:13

Akiwimum2 · 19/09/2025 15:48

@Gingersky1234 Are you Harry?

😂😂😂

IcedPurple · 19/09/2025 16:26

binkie163 · 19/09/2025 15:31

I think some people have a very unrealistic idea of families. I come from a highly dysfunctional family, narc mother, weak enabler father. My dad never initiated nor expected contact or visits. I know he found my siblings children and great GC's a chore. The last family Christmas we did was 1993.

I doubt KC is that bothered, he has plenty of non bothersome family around if he wishes. I doubt he wants emotional confrontations or kids around it's exhausting. He wasn't a hands on parent I just don't imagine him wringing his hands over H or the children whatever the media say. I suspect KC is every bit as selfish, spoilt and attention seeking as H.
M certainly doesn't agonise about seeing her family.

Lots of families are LC or NC and don't think of them at all. If a member of your family had talked shit about you worldwide would you honestly want to visit or sit down to Xmas dinner with them and play nice, I bloody wouldn't.

I agree. Pure speculation obviously, but I doubt Charles is that bothered. In theory he'd probably like to have a relationship with Archie and Lili but he probably accepts that it's not going to happen. It might be different if he'd already grown close to them but as it is, they are an abstraction to him. I doubt he is going to (literally) go out of his way to engineer a meeting with them.

DipsyDee · 19/09/2025 16:33

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 15:23

Might not be as easy to enforce as just putting his foot down, in the event of disagreement! Meghan holds more cards.

This might not be a marriage friendly suggestion but he could always go to court as it’s not an unreasonable request

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 19/09/2025 16:48

On a personal level it must be heartbreaking for KC3 barely to have met his DGC

I agree with @binkie163 I'm just not convinced he is that bothered.

There are endless posts on here about disinterested grandparents - I have a perfectly normal relationship with my parents but they have their own lives in a different country, they aren't heartbroken that they went many years between seeing my children, and aren't even fussed about calling. We have never been part of their world so we aren't missed in the same way.

Lifestooshort71 · 19/09/2025 16:49

I'm pretty sure we don't know that M won't allow the children to come to the UK but we do know that H has backed himself into a corner with his refusal to allow his family to accompany him because, in his opinion, their safety can't be guaranteed. I don't know how he cones back from that little tantrum tbh.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/09/2025 16:53

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 15:23

Might not be as easy to enforce as just putting his foot down, in the event of disagreement! Meghan holds more cards.

Precisely, OnTheRoof

I'm no admirer of the behaviour of either, but from the POV of someone who's prepared to behave as Meghan has there's no denying she's played a blinder in being able to control her husband - and as someone who could once call the shots with all the flunkeys around him I sometimes wonder how Harry really feels about it all

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 17:04

DipsyDee · 19/09/2025 16:33

This might not be a marriage friendly suggestion but he could always go to court as it’s not an unreasonable request

And then what's going to happen, realistically? The first half of your post pretty much sums it up!

DipsyDee · 19/09/2025 18:22

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 17:04

And then what's going to happen, realistically? The first half of your post pretty much sums it up!

Well if she won’t give her consent for him to take his children to see his family the marriage is done for really

Mylovelygreendress · 19/09/2025 18:29

OnTheRoof · 19/09/2025 15:23

Might not be as easy to enforce as just putting his foot down, in the event of disagreement! Meghan holds more cards.

Why does Meghan hold more cards ?

diddl · 19/09/2025 18:32

Well if she won’t give her consent for him to take his children to see his family the marriage is done for really

There would be nothing to stop her also coming over but not meeting up with his family.

Lunde · 19/09/2025 19:21

spanieleyes · 19/09/2025 13:44

The King had a holiday home or two in Transylvania, perhaps they could all meet up there!

No internet - Harry and Meghan would never go there

No TV and very traditional
https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/prince-charles-romania-house-transylvania

Lunde · 19/09/2025 19:30

If Harry and Meghan want their kids to meet their grandfather - a head of State, a 77 year old with cancer - then they need to facilitate that and schlepp to wherever is convenient for the 👑King.

But they won't be able to do it with a Netflix crew in tow or tip off the paps at Backgrid. It could be easy for them to fly in for a secluded weekend in Scotland or Highgrove - but they don't seem keen.

Hummingbirdtree · 19/09/2025 19:38

Lunde · 19/09/2025 19:21

No internet - Harry and Meghan would never go there

No TV and very traditional
https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/prince-charles-romania-house-transylvania

Edited

Too pokey and downmarket for HRH Meghan Sussex methinks.

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2025 19:56

I genuinely don’t see why everyone is so hell bent on Charles meeting his US grandchildren. He has three grandchildren he sees as often as he wants and step grandchildren if he craves the company of children (I bet he doesn’t).

I can see why Harry wants his children to meet their grandfather the King but what’s in it for Charles?

Hummingbirdtree · 19/09/2025 20:02

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2025 19:56

I genuinely don’t see why everyone is so hell bent on Charles meeting his US grandchildren. He has three grandchildren he sees as often as he wants and step grandchildren if he craves the company of children (I bet he doesn’t).

I can see why Harry wants his children to meet their grandfather the King but what’s in it for Charles?

What an odd attitude.

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2025 20:25

Hummingbirdtree · 19/09/2025 20:02

What an odd attitude.

Your opinion. I think people are projecting a lot.

In the not so distant past people completely lost contact with family members who sought their fortune away from home.

Charles is from a class and generation where children were routinely sent away to school at a young age and had very little to do with their own parents, let alone grandparents.

I don’t believe Charles is desperate to meet Harry’s children. He doesn’t know them.

JSMill · 19/09/2025 20:38

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2025 20:25

Your opinion. I think people are projecting a lot.

In the not so distant past people completely lost contact with family members who sought their fortune away from home.

Charles is from a class and generation where children were routinely sent away to school at a young age and had very little to do with their own parents, let alone grandparents.

I don’t believe Charles is desperate to meet Harry’s children. He doesn’t know them.

What are you talking about? Charles was extremely close to his dgm, as well as other members of his extended family such as Lord Mountbatten.

Needspaceforlego · 19/09/2025 20:53

Ohpleeeease · 19/09/2025 20:25

Your opinion. I think people are projecting a lot.

In the not so distant past people completely lost contact with family members who sought their fortune away from home.

Charles is from a class and generation where children were routinely sent away to school at a young age and had very little to do with their own parents, let alone grandparents.

I don’t believe Charles is desperate to meet Harry’s children. He doesn’t know them.

Have you not seen photos of Charles with the Wales kids and Camillas DGC?

He is clearly much more hands on than you are giving him credit for. Little Louis on his Grandpas knee at the Jubilee event was clearly showing a different side to Charles.

Google for photos of him W&H as children.

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