"Prince Harry" : I didn't air any dirty laundry in public

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“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”

I didn't air any dirty laundry in public - my conscience is clear, says Prince Harry during visit to Ukraine: Duke reveals he wants to spend more time in the UK in the next year as 'the focus really has to be on my dad' | Daily Mail Online

Andrew is Harry's Godfather, and Harry has always been closer to the Yorks than his other relatives. Meghan met HMTQ for the first time (with Harry) at Andrew's house. William is closer to Anne and Edward's children, Harry with Andrew's.

He didn't just air his dirty laundry - he showed off what it contained. He's a vile lunatic who will never be happy in life despite his protestations.

I don’t understand this “ my truth” wording in general. I was taught as a young child, you are either telling the truth or you are telling a lie. I still believe it and brought up my children to believe the same. My grandchildren are obviously a completely different generation but they too understand it’s either the truth or it’s a lie. As soon as someone says “ I’m telling my truth” my bull 💩 alarm goes off very loudly and I switch off from whatever they are telling me.

It hasn't been announced - it was being discussed on the PR podcast as the next obvious PR step

She was friends with Beatrice but claimed not to know who Harry was?

There's being photographed with G, C and L at Polo or whatever....and there's having a photograph taken of the King and his heirs.

One is a snapshot of them caught up in every day life, another is a historical record.

If Charles had a posed photo taken of him with A and L, it would be an official record etc.

So unless there's an official photo of KC with Williams offspring, there shouldn't be one with Harry's really.

Ah ok I missed that, I am always playing catch-up

And even the two people on the podcast didn't agree with each other. Harry's next steps aren't as clear cut as it seemed at first.

I think the puff pieces are inadvertently rage-bait.

I don’t think there’s anything inadvertent about them. They are designed to do exactly that.

Yes. Or Prince Andrew.
Extraordinary....

What ? The ones H&M themselves brief in directly placed in specific US magazines as ‘exclusives’ to support their initiatives? How and why would their own PR strategy be set up to rage-bait against themselves?

Thanks for taking the time to clarify that it’s just your personal opinion that the BRF shouldn’t impose the cost to tax payers of extra security on the country they visit in a private capacity. I was confused and it’s not something I have seen the BRF hold back on to date.

But maybe KC3 is mindful of this and chooses not to travel privately outside the UK or maybe they are comfortable with this reciprocal global agreement for IPPs so holiday where it suits. Glad it’s been explored.

It therefore provides an option for KC3 to meet with his DGC if he wants to throw a bone to show a compromise in a sensitive reconciliation and meet on neutral territory in the first instance if MM’s issues with the UK are a block to meeting.

Additionally as Vance stayed on in a private capacity after his official duties on the UK recently the US tax payers ‘owe’ British tax payers - so if well enough, KC3 could meet his DGC in the US. Maybe they could even scoot off for a day trip to Disney Land as H&M have a couple of free passes.

The most beautiful of family photos is of QE2 surrounded by all of her GGC with one of the girls holding her handbag - it looks warm and informal. Also the another one with PP in it when QE2 is holding Louis.

I know the pictures you mean, @Everyonesawher . They're lovely. The last ever picture of Elizabeth and Philip with their great grandchildren was taken at Balmoral. The Sussexes chose not to be there, in spite of invitations.

There's a lovely one from the summer of 2022, Elizabeth now without Philip, but surrounded by her two youngest grandchildren and all her great grandchildren apart from Archie and Lilibet.

Because while Andrew is vile to predominantly young vulnerable women he may not have been vile to Harry and Meghan, so they have no personal insult to call out. They are not so bothered about general despicable behavior, only behavior that directly slights them.

Right, good points. So this is more of a personal revenge activity these past 5 years, rather than the story of his life.

In my personal opinion I would say their was a startling lack of balance in most of the biopic information that have shared publicly. With a heavy focus on who has been mean and how they have been mean. But that may just be because of the soundbites that get the most attention. I have read spare, I have not watched the Oprah interview or any of the Netflix stuff. I have got most of my knowledge from here which may also be fairly biased in the quotes used.

That's interesting. I got my first information from Oprah, then like you, from Spare. I also saw the Netflix series and saw some interviews. I read a fascinating interview with Meghan in "The Cut".
It's all very murky and contradictory.

Harry's next steps aren't as clear cut as it seemed at first

I'm not sure they were especially clear even in the first place, @MrsLeonFarrell. Commentators like to pretend they're in the know, but so much depends on what the RF are prepared to tolerate and so far they're saying nowt

It therefore provides an option for KC3 to meet with his DGC if he wants to throw a bone to show a compromise in a sensitive reconciliation and meet on neutral territory in the first instance if MM’s issues with the UK are a block to meeting.

If Meghan has 'issues' with the country of which Charles is Head of State, then clearly it's best they not meet. Anywhere. This isn't a war. There is no 'neutral territory'.

Charles isn't going to impose costs on another country for a photo op. The whole idea is ridiculous.

If unemployed Harry wants his children to have a relationship with Charles, they are going to have to come to him.

That's true.

Everyone was very positive when Harry came over and actually spent time with his charities but what the commentators missed was this was four days out of 365. He spent less than an hour with his father after 18 months. Harry needs to be far more consistent if he wants to change the narrative around him.

One consistent comment on Charles, by many people, is how hard he works. He doesn't have much free time. If they want to see him why not come over in the week known periods when he is on holiday, at Balmoral or Sandringham? Every other family member manages to work out how you see Charles, why can't Harry, the least busy of them all.

Exactly.

Charles is an elderly, ill Head of State whose diary is booked months in advance. He can't just jet off on a whim for a photo op. Harry and Meghan however, can and do, with or without the children. They could easily make arrangements to fly over pretty much any time, and meet Charles in one of several secured, private royal estates.

I suspect the main reason for the lack of a visit is Meghan's opposition.

Why is she so opposed though? What has KC ever done to her? He provided a huge amount of money, not least for their wedding, he's consistently invited them to Balmoral and Sandringham, even after the ghastly "Spare" they were both invited to the Coronation. He's never publicly criticised or undermined them.
What is Meghan's reasoning?