The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

[jeffgoldblum]

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

Thank you Coffee, you made a better reply to the post than I could have.

Let's face it Satan is probably more popular than most politicians. As for the RF they sound like any other mumsnet family.

The RF are rapidly losing support amongst the younger generation and they know it

I sometimes wonder if they are just grabbing what they can while they can

Striking similarities between the two couples.
It’s looking like H&M graduated, with flying colours, from the School of York!
👩🎓 🧑🎓

I think that it will result in more scrutiny and I wouldn’t argue with that - I don’t think any of the constitutional monarchists on here would. I’m all for slimming down where it’s sensible.

i don’t believe that the RF are “100% rotten”. Of course they’re not. KC is a sincere man and there’s zero evidence he’s behaved like the Yorks. His faults are petty ones. I think William is super- conscious of the need to do, and to be seen to do, a good, squeaky-clean job - for a number of sound reasons I won’t go into here (unless asked!). Princess Anne is acknowledged even by royal detractors to be hard-working and genuine about her duties. Catherine is doing her best in difficult circs, and I don’t think she’s put a foot wrong.

It’s not that the RF are all bad - the issue is how the completely worm-eaten apples in the barrel have been allowed to get away with their gross misconduct for so long. If that was to do with the late queen, and I’m not saying it was necessarily, there’s been a regime change to a far less sympathetic lot now!

I don't see why not, Cathy

By his own words we already know Harry's racist and ableist, so being a homophobe as well would hardly be a suprise

What the hell?!

Seconded! Not news in the general sense, but the scale ….wow.

And I knew A was a disgusting lech who thought he just had to snap his fingers at women, but again, it’s the scale and the level of his depravity.

In the bin…if not in the gaol..with him. I’m no supporter of the extremely unpleasant Ghislaine Maxwell, but she is serving 40 years - that’s longer than the Moors Murderers got - so I think Andrew could benefit from a spell behind bars.

Precisely, LidlAmaretto - and then folk try to claim that they don't have any power

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The late Prince Philip was a racist pig and it was all treated as a joke.

I think Harry and Andrew probably have a lot of dirt on each other from their military days and military contacts, and just from general forces’ gossip.

A lot of the rumours about them both are bloody grim.

What’s especially interesting is how Harry was protected not just because he was a member of the royal family but because he was an IPP (Internationally Protected Person).

Harry really doesn’t like losing his IPP status, does he? He’s made quite the fuss.

I suspect Andrew may also have been an IPP in his trade envoy role …

No more than in most families, but with high exposure and more opportunities to exploit things and make public asses of themselves.

Oh, not this again. He was a man of his time - he probably othered’ other races but he was not a simple racist in the modern sense. He hugely admired indigenous people and championed their survival in the face of consumerist modern society, which he did think was crazy.

I hate the lack of nuance.

No support for Andrew here at all but GM was involved in recruiting and being involved with physical exploitation of 14 year olds with Epstein over many years.

I doubt anyone was shocked by these rumours, I certainly wasn’t, just as I’m aware and not shocked about all the other rumours about other royals.
but my stance is this… we cannot allow these rumours to stand because we don’t like or support certain people and then complain when they are made about people we do like!
either it’s wrong or it isn’t.
ps the crown is fictional.

A very good point cathy ! And one I hadn’t noticed, I admit the homophobic comment actually passed me by when I read it.

Thanks @TheAutumnCrow, I’m a bit behind this morning! 😁

I'm sure he wasn't unteachable and realised his actions were controversial but he arrogantly carried on.

And they were not shut down!!!
despite the number of reports and complaints mn let every thread stand , most of them are still on here to read!

I’m not shocked about the level of spending it has been floating around for years, what really surprised me was the stories of her behaviour to staff !
the shouting the bullying, it’s very reminiscent of someone else!
I was under the impression ( that was clearly clever pr!) that Sarah was this fun , down to earth, bumbling slightly stupid, harmless person.
apparently not.

That latest excerpt was an eye-opener. I knew Fergie had a spending problem but I had no idea it was that bad. In some ways I feel sorry for her, another woman with a deeply traumatic childhood marrying into the royal family and left to flounder. She really is a terrible money-grubbing grifter, though.

I am not defending Sarah at all but I seem to recall her divorce settlement was pretty shit.

The RF seem to be rubbish at dealing with money and the extended family - if you leave someone like that relatively poor you are sadly asking for trouble.

I think the same with H&M - personally I would have given them a nice healthy settlement agreement with an NDA and wished them well. Charles totally has access to funds to have done this.

And the frugality of any member of the RF is totally laughable. Tupperware containers and stable fulls of race horses - so frugal indeed.

The phone line references - phone lines used to be expensive. There’s another mention later on in the article that her phone bill was £1,600 a year, a lot of that would be paying fees for extra lines. She could have had an argument for a second line (one for her and the girls, one for staff) but the 6 or so was unnecessary. It’s a good example of her always going for the most expensive option.

Paying extra to fly a suitcase full of hangers.

I have a relative who was a traffic police officer. When SF was still married, he pulled her over for speeding. Her protection officer got out and asked him to waive it. My relative initially refused but when the man said ‘look mate, she’s going to give me so much grief over this if you don’t do it’, he gave in. To me that just told me the kind of person she really is. Of course, the level of extravagance is incomprehensible to me. It’s bad enough when I read about the excesses of Saudi royals, for example, but at least they have the money! She’s extravagant with money she doesn’t have.