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The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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jeffgoldblum · 02/08/2025 12:39

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2025.08.01-232432/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14962883/Prince-Andrew-royal-oafishness-Sex-obsessed-vulgar-vile-bedroom-habits-Meghan-bullying-bombshell-exposed-devastating-book-Royals-tried-ban.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2025.08.01-232432/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14962883/Prince-Andrew-royal-oafishness-Sex-obsessed-vulgar-vile-bedroom-habits-Meghan-bullying-bombshell-exposed-devastating-book-Royals-tried-ban.html

apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

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jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 18:52

CurlewKate · 05/08/2025 18:28

I’m a “but Andrew” and I’m very much here! Also, I am resisting any temptation to say “Seriously? You genuinely think there is any comparison between X&Y and D&F*? Seriously????
*letters chosen at random- no hidden meaning!

Why do people always think posts are about them?
if you are already here discussing why would you be described as not here? 🙄

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BasiliskStare · 05/08/2025 18:53

Goodness me , as if there isn't enough for forty billion threads* about Andrew - & I'm "but Andrew" camp. What I am pleased to see is rather than, for want of a better phrase DM gossip, , a well respected biographer has chosen to research this. I hope it will give KC and W a bit of spine to start taking "behaviour unbecoming" seriously , behind closed doors not just when it is exposed publicly. I hope this book gives KC , W and the men in grey suits a bit of a shot across the bows, Increasingly things will out. Firstly if , is rumoured and rumoured is all , Andrew is asked to give evidence re Epstein (outwith the particular VG settlement) then he must do it.

*OK I am exaggerating for effect there.

hoteltango · 05/08/2025 19:05

Yes, the very fact that a respected writer is bringing all this into the public view should carry some weight within Royal circles. But the question is what can be done? As far as I can see, the only sanctions can come only within the family, which is quite a burden. It's difficult enough to have to deal with troublesome family members, but it's more difficult when that family is on such public view.

It's sad to think that the public memories of QEII could well focus her lack of curtailing her son's behaviour. For Charles, though, what can he do, more than he has done, about his brother?

jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 19:07

hoteltango · 05/08/2025 19:05

Yes, the very fact that a respected writer is bringing all this into the public view should carry some weight within Royal circles. But the question is what can be done? As far as I can see, the only sanctions can come only within the family, which is quite a burden. It's difficult enough to have to deal with troublesome family members, but it's more difficult when that family is on such public view.

It's sad to think that the public memories of QEII could well focus her lack of curtailing her son's behaviour. For Charles, though, what can he do, more than he has done, about his brother?

A good question!
honestly I don’t know.

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vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:10

I had previously heard the Thailand story involving Prince Andrew from former Reuters journalist Andrew MacGregor Marshall though, as far as I can tell, Lownie doesn’t name him. In Marshall’s account, Andrew allegedly shared Thai sex workers with a prince from one of the Gulf states, with women reportedly passed between their hotel rooms.

I would also hazard a guess that the Royal Family is well aware of his proclivities. Given that they continue to be publicly and frequently seen with him, and still invite him to royal occasions, it seems fair to assume they either don’t care enough to distance themselves or are unwilling to formally sanction him. Either way, in the #MeToo era, they stand utterly condemned for their attitude toward sexual exploitation. Silence is complicity.

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:11

BasiliskStare · 05/08/2025 18:53

Goodness me , as if there isn't enough for forty billion threads* about Andrew - & I'm "but Andrew" camp. What I am pleased to see is rather than, for want of a better phrase DM gossip, , a well respected biographer has chosen to research this. I hope it will give KC and W a bit of spine to start taking "behaviour unbecoming" seriously , behind closed doors not just when it is exposed publicly. I hope this book gives KC , W and the men in grey suits a bit of a shot across the bows, Increasingly things will out. Firstly if , is rumoured and rumoured is all , Andrew is asked to give evidence re Epstein (outwith the particular VG settlement) then he must do it.

*OK I am exaggerating for effect there.

I want to vomit. Really

According to Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York, written by Andrew Lownie, Epstein was effusive with his praise for the prince, telling friends, “We are both serial sex addicts. He’s the only person I have met who is more obsessed with p---y than me.”
Epstein also reportedly said of Andrew, ”From the reports I’ve got back from the women we’ve shared, he’s the most perverted animal in the bedroom. He likes to engage in stuff that’s even kinky to me—and I’m the king of kink!”

Andrew - his royal oafishness: Exposed in book Royals tried to ban

Jeffrey Epstein said of Prince Andrew: 'We are both serial sex addicts. He's the only person I have met who is more obsessed with p***y than me.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14962883/Prince-Andrew-royal-oafishness-Sex-obsessed-vulgar-vile-bedroom-habits-Meghan-bullying-bombshell-exposed-devastating-book-Royals-tried-ban.html

CoffeeCantata · 05/08/2025 19:14

I’m hoping that it will actually help KC to get tough with Andrew. It’s easy to banish him from public appearances, but it may still take time to get him out of his mansion. But KC must get on the case. If Andrew turns nasty and tries to do a Harry by threatening to sell family secrets Charles could surely threaten him with even tougher sanctions. He should be left to deal himself with any fallout from the Epstein case - he’s on his own.

CurlewKate · 05/08/2025 19:14

jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 18:52

Why do people always think posts are about them?
if you are already here discussing why would you be described as not here? 🙄

I didn’t think it was about me. I was just checking in to the “but Andrew” register.🤣

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:18

And while we’re at it, consider this: Harry is outside the royal fold, earning his own money, while Andrew continues to live on a royal estate most likely reliant on the monarch’s largesse. Let that sink in for a moment. How much is this Rag Wort and why hasn't it been pulled out by it's roots !

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:21

No 1 Best Seller in pre-sales ! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Entitled-revealing-biography-Ferguson-bestselling/dp/0008775451

EmpressSisi · 05/08/2025 19:23

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:18

And while we’re at it, consider this: Harry is outside the royal fold, earning his own money, while Andrew continues to live on a royal estate most likely reliant on the monarch’s largesse. Let that sink in for a moment. How much is this Rag Wort and why hasn't it been pulled out by it's roots !

Just a friendly warning. You’re not allowed to bring up the Sussexes in non Sussex threads. It upsets the Stans apparently 🤭

EmpressSisi · 05/08/2025 19:25

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:21

I’ll definitely be reserving it at the library. Hopefully I can stomach the read without throwing it across the room 🤣

MargaretThursday · 05/08/2025 19:26

jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 17:29

The state of the wales marriage is completely unrelated to this thread!
idle gossip that should be left where it started.

I'd also say that a random comment to someone, who isn't exactly unbiased judging from their other posts, 3 years ago isn't exactly straight from the horse's mouth. In fact it's less reliable than a bookie's tip.
They must be excellent actors though to still be keeping up the pretence after so long...

It's interesting how the "but Andrew" crowd seem to be more interested in making pops at the reast of the royal family though now they have a real reason to discuss him.

CurlewKate · 05/08/2025 19:40

MargaretThursday · 05/08/2025 19:26

I'd also say that a random comment to someone, who isn't exactly unbiased judging from their other posts, 3 years ago isn't exactly straight from the horse's mouth. In fact it's less reliable than a bookie's tip.
They must be excellent actors though to still be keeping up the pretence after so long...

It's interesting how the "but Andrew" crowd seem to be more interested in making pops at the reast of the royal family though now they have a real reason to discuss him.

Surely once we have been made aware of what has been going on, it’s relevant to discuss what other members of the RF-perhaps in particular, TLQ- who already knew were doing, or not doing, about it? Or, in the case of the PofW might choose to do in the future?

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:46

Prince Andrew - Duke of York, Earl of Inverness, and Baron Killyleagh - really is the perfect example of how meaningless and outdated all these titles have become.

I asked ChatGPT to mimic the style of the Poet Laureate Simon Armitage for the poem he will never write but he should.

Randy Andy: a portrait in scandal
He flew in on diplomacy—flag, cocktail, promise—
then turned Crown‑duty into porno,
a carousel of forty women—maybe more—
a revolving door of bodies in taxpayer‑funded rooms.
Each exit matched by an entrance:
“one leaves, another arrives,” even hotel staff whispered in disbelief.
Epstein toasted him—“serial sex addict”—
and crowned him “kinkier” than the king of kink himself.
He was Randy Andy even at school—off‑colour jokes for a legend in the making.
He slept with models, politicians, bartenders—with the world as his prey.
Matchmakers fed him access. He chose.
They came. He used.
Then ghosted them back to London.
He claimed amnesia in courtrooms and cough‑drops before cameras—
“I don’t remember,” “I don’t sweat,” “I never hugged her.”
Proving only that entitlement buries memory deep.
The Royal Lodge—no longer a refuge, but a mausoleum of privilege.
Stripped of patronage, stripped of PR—but never stripped of title.
Let that sink in:
A man accused of rape, of trafficking,
settled lawsuits for millions,
and still lives off Crown largesse,
resilient to disgrace.
In the #MeToo era, silence is complicity.
Silence is the crown he never earned.

BasiliskStare · 05/08/2025 20:01

If it were my glorious realm , which it isn't and never will be - I think the time has come to stop covering up for PA in any way. TLQ did him what she probably thought was a favour by settling with VG . Frankly I think it has turned out not to be the best course of action. But Detective Hindsight solves all crimes as they say. If he is subpoenaed in the Epstein enquiry he should go & I would hope if he isn't it is not because of his relationship to KC. I doubt he'll tell the truth and may make an utter tit of himself on the world stage. But he's already done that. What more damage can he do - cut him loose I say and let him answer for his part in the shocking behaviour towards those girls. In the meantime stop him living high on the hog in fancy dress in the best and quickest way possible. KC may not want to be seen to reacting to a book , but the quicker the better I say & then lines can be drawn for the future.

And breathe ..... 😂

IAmATorturedPoet · 05/08/2025 20:01

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:21

I think I’ll be giving it a swerve, I feel like I have the jist and none of it is all that surprising.
Besides, I have already read way more than I wanted too about one Prince’s relationship with his todger. I’m quite happy leaving it there!!

EmpressSisi · 05/08/2025 20:06

IAmATorturedPoet · 05/08/2025 20:01

I think I’ll be giving it a swerve, I feel like I have the jist and none of it is all that surprising.
Besides, I have already read way more than I wanted too about one Prince’s relationship with his todger. I’m quite happy leaving it there!!

🤣

CoffeeCantata · 05/08/2025 20:11

BasiliskStare · 05/08/2025 20:01

If it were my glorious realm , which it isn't and never will be - I think the time has come to stop covering up for PA in any way. TLQ did him what she probably thought was a favour by settling with VG . Frankly I think it has turned out not to be the best course of action. But Detective Hindsight solves all crimes as they say. If he is subpoenaed in the Epstein enquiry he should go & I would hope if he isn't it is not because of his relationship to KC. I doubt he'll tell the truth and may make an utter tit of himself on the world stage. But he's already done that. What more damage can he do - cut him loose I say and let him answer for his part in the shocking behaviour towards those girls. In the meantime stop him living high on the hog in fancy dress in the best and quickest way possible. KC may not want to be seen to reacting to a book , but the quicker the better I say & then lines can be drawn for the future.

And breathe ..... 😂

I’d like him to face a seriously sharp barrister in the Epstein case.

That would be delicious!

EmpressSisi · 05/08/2025 20:16

Is it vacuous of me to wonder how Fergie manages to dress so appallingly, given all the debt she’s racked up? They say money can’t buy you class — and Dolly Parton says it takes a lot of money to look this cheap — but in Fergie’s case, the money’s gone and the look doesn’t even seem intentional. At least I hope not.

vera99 · 05/08/2025 20:21

FWIW Celebitchy which is probably beneath many here think the book is a load of bollox and pours scorn on its claim that Epstein intoduced Diana to Dodi.

Mylovelygreendress · 05/08/2025 20:23

vera99 · 05/08/2025 19:18

And while we’re at it, consider this: Harry is outside the royal fold, earning his own money, while Andrew continues to live on a royal estate most likely reliant on the monarch’s largesse. Let that sink in for a moment. How much is this Rag Wort and why hasn't it been pulled out by it's roots !

Harry would very much like to be back in the Royal Fold ! He is desperately clinging on to his titles and wants the perks ( 24/7 taxpayer funded security being the main one).
As far as I can see the vast majority of money he has earned since he and Meghan flounced off , is through talking about the Royal Family!

Stuckinasitiation · 05/08/2025 20:25

Also he’s not earning his own money. He’s living off inheritances. Where did they come from originally?

EmpressSisi · 05/08/2025 20:25

CoffeeCantata · 05/08/2025 20:11

I’d like him to face a seriously sharp barrister in the Epstein case.

That would be delicious!

I totally misread that as ‘I hope his barrister gives him a sharp slap across the face’ at first glance 🤣

We can only hope since it appears Harry didn’t punch him way back when.

BasiliskStare · 05/08/2025 20:37

CoffeeCantata · 05/08/2025 20:11

I’d like him to face a seriously sharp barrister in the Epstein case.

That would be delicious!

As would I. Oh so would I. & one who even he in his ocean going bumptious pomposity could not leave the questioning thinking it had all gone rather well. No disrespect to Emily Maitliss there, she did a good job of exposing him - he was just too dim to realise it.

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