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Talks about reconciliation 2

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bluegreygreen · 17/07/2025 10:18

I've never started a thread here before, but I thought some people might be interested in this take on the story by a PR podcast I listened to yesterday (started listening to this podcast as I know very little about PR!).

It would be good to know if any of the resident PR people agree.

When It Hits The Fan: A Right Royal Whodunnit

When It Hits the Fan - A Right Royal Whodunnit - BBC Sounds

David Yelland and Simon Lewis examine the fallout from a very public secret royal meeting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002fvh7?origin=share-mobile&partner=uk.co.bbc

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LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 07:17

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 07:12

She just couldn’t do that. Even whatever acting skill she may have (mediocre to say the least) wouldn’t allow her to blame or humiliate herself.

Why would she ‘blame or humiliate herself’? I doubt she’s going to do it to get the approval of royal family supporters. Plus even if she did (again, why would she?), those people will just move the goalposts onto something else she needs to do for their approval.

Words · 21/07/2025 07:29

I've often wondered whether the cringeworthy mock curtsey was a cack handed attempt at self-deprecation. But very out of character if so. Harry's face was a picture.

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 07:35

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 07:17

Why would she ‘blame or humiliate herself’? I doubt she’s going to do it to get the approval of royal family supporters. Plus even if she did (again, why would she?), those people will just move the goalposts onto something else she needs to do for their approval.

That was a response to a specific post. You’ve taken it out of context and made it general- which it wasn’t. You need to look at the context and not try to twist my words.

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 07:47

Words · 21/07/2025 07:29

I've often wondered whether the cringeworthy mock curtsey was a cack handed attempt at self-deprecation. But very out of character if so. Harry's face was a picture.

Very ill-judged if it was. Pps have speculated before on MN as to whether they both (or possibly H) realised it wouldn’t land well and may have wanted it edited out, but NF knew it was absolute gold (especially H’s mortified expression).

But I doubt it. Neither of them are self-aware and Megs probably thought she was being adorably cute.

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 07:48

Fair enough, although you used the word humiliate, i guess it was in error.

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 07:51

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 07:48

Fair enough, although you used the word humiliate, i guess it was in error.

Thanks - appreciate that!😀

LadyJaneGrey18 · 21/07/2025 08:13

BusWankers · 21/07/2025 06:56

Wouldn't surprise me if needing the money was the actual reason for the meeting...

Harry seemed genuinely crushed that he lost that case. I can well imagine that it has created serious financial issues for him. C may have paid the bill just to end embarrassing issues down the line, which is fairly disgusting in my view.

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 08:20

Very much doubt Charles is giving Harry any money, it would already be front page news if that was the case. Let’s not stoop to believing online trolls making up lies for their monetised YouTube channels. Seriously how the hell would these randoms know anything, considering they jumped on the royal content making band wagon about 5 minutes ago?

NormaMajors1992coat · 21/07/2025 08:23

I wonder, if Charles has settled that bill, whether there were conditions attached 🤔

ThePoshUns · 21/07/2025 08:27

I can’t see it being anything other than money, that is all that motivates Mand H

NewAgeNewMe · 21/07/2025 08:29

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 08:20

Very much doubt Charles is giving Harry any money, it would already be front page news if that was the case. Let’s not stoop to believing online trolls making up lies for their monetised YouTube channels. Seriously how the hell would these randoms know anything, considering they jumped on the royal content making band wagon about 5 minutes ago?

IIRC the duchy accounts showed that the Sussexes had been supported for the first year after they had left the UK, even though Harry had said on Oprah or Spare (I forget which) that his father had cut him off. I’m sure someone with better knowledge will be along to correct me.

MummyJ12 · 21/07/2025 08:41

Excellent point @NewAgeNewMe.
Ironically, Harry and Meghan are the worst offenders for misinformation and lies about themselves and their circumstances. Their truth is not necessarily the truth.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2025 08:51

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/07/2025 13:24

Surely Harry isn't this stupid? I can't see a benefit to him saying this sort of thing publically. Does he not realise that he is basically Andrew, minus the sex crimes but sharing the entitlement and resultant unpopularity?

Unfortunately it appears he is this stupid, MrsLF, when you take into account so much else hee's said publicly which makes no sense at all

But then that's where a background of never being told anything you don't wish to hear will bring you ...

Mylovelygreendress · 21/07/2025 08:55

Profhilodisaster · 21/07/2025 07:01

I don't know what to believe either, where do they get the information from? I'd be worried about being sued if I posted something that wasn't true . Also, if a couple of twins from the USA have insider knowledge, wouldn't the uk press also be able to get hold of this ?

I think it was @GiveMeSpanakopitawho said that the person behind CDAN has good contacts and to be fair does do “ reveals” so I tend to give some credence to CDAN articles

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 08:59

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 07:48

Fair enough, although you used the word humiliate, i guess it was in error.

Yes - I probably wasn’t clear - ‘make herself humble’ would have been a better way of saying what I meant. I was meaning that it’s not in M’s character to be humble and self-effacing, which I think is supported by clear evidence.

MummyJ12 · 21/07/2025 09:02

Mylovelygreendress · 21/07/2025 08:55

I think it was @GiveMeSpanakopitawho said that the person behind CDAN has good contacts and to be fair does do “ reveals” so I tend to give some credence to CDAN articles

I agree.
They don’t focus on H&M so can’t be viewed as a troll account and they don’t have a YouTube channel/platform. So let’s set that straight too.

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 09:10

The only mention of financial support I’ve seen is that it was allegedly up to summer 2020, nothing subsequent. Would love to see any other (reputable) sources confirming financial support since then.

JSMill · 21/07/2025 09:32

Rhaidimiddim · 20/07/2025 22:34

I didn't read Spare, but read the relevant extracts where he's elder-abusing his dad over the phone as his dad's mum is dying and his dad's life is about to change hugely.

I could have cried for Charles, andcwas glad he had his Camilla and his sibling with him.

What a bl@@dy awful person to have to deal with, while hour mum's dying.

I know. When you are in those situations, you have such a heavy mental load. You really don’t need anything else to add to it.

RandyRedHumpback · 21/07/2025 09:41

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 07:47

Very ill-judged if it was. Pps have speculated before on MN as to whether they both (or possibly H) realised it wouldn’t land well and may have wanted it edited out, but NF knew it was absolute gold (especially H’s mortified expression).

But I doubt it. Neither of them are self-aware and Megs probably thought she was being adorably cute.

They were executive producers on the Netflix doc. If they wanted it out, they could have had it taken out.

NormaMajors1992coat · 21/07/2025 09:42

LimeNotLemon · 21/07/2025 09:10

The only mention of financial support I’ve seen is that it was allegedly up to summer 2020, nothing subsequent. Would love to see any other (reputable) sources confirming financial support since then.

I guess you will have to wait for the next lot of accounts to be published. I don’t think anyone is claiming this as truth, just musing on the latest rumours.

RandyRedHumpback · 21/07/2025 09:49

MummyJ12 · 21/07/2025 09:02

I agree.
They don’t focus on H&M so can’t be viewed as a troll account and they don’t have a YouTube channel/platform. So let’s set that straight too.

He's rumoured to be an entertainment lawyer - calls himself "Entylawyer". He does have a YouTube channel and guests on other's podcasts every now and then. But most of his focus is not on the royals but Hollywood stars. In fact he's said that, until Meghan entered the RF, he didn't get any royal gossip at all.

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 09:49

RandyRedHumpback · 21/07/2025 09:41

They were executive producers on the Netflix doc. If they wanted it out, they could have had it taken out.

Oh dear - that speaks of appalling judgement and zero self-awareness!

Quelle surprise...

RandyRedHumpback · 21/07/2025 09:50

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 09:49

Oh dear - that speaks of appalling judgement and zero self-awareness!

Quelle surprise...

I'm sure they blamed the editors once the brown stuff hit the fan.

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 09:52

JSMill · 21/07/2025 09:32

I know. When you are in those situations, you have such a heavy mental load. You really don’t need anything else to add to it.

And basically, all because Meghan wanted more fodder (and maybe even a quick photocall?) from being present at the deathbed of the longest-reigning and most famous monarch/Head of State in the world.

M wanted to piggyback on history, and what M wants, M usually gets. Imagine being told 'no'! How selfish of the RF.

NormaMajors1992coat · 21/07/2025 09:56

CoffeeCantata · 21/07/2025 09:52

And basically, all because Meghan wanted more fodder (and maybe even a quick photocall?) from being present at the deathbed of the longest-reigning and most famous monarch/Head of State in the world.

M wanted to piggyback on history, and what M wants, M usually gets. Imagine being told 'no'! How selfish of the RF.

I couldn’t believe these shenanigans at the time. OS’s tweet making it very clear that while Meghan now wasn’t going to Balmoral, neither was Catherine. The Queen had just died and her priority was making sure nobody thought she was inferior to her sister in law 🤦‍♀️

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