Talks about reconciliation 2

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I've never started a thread here before, but I thought some people might be interested in this take on the story by a PR podcast I listened to yesterday (started listening to this podcast as I know very little about PR!).

It would be good to know if any of the resident PR people agree.

When It Hits The Fan: A Right Royal Whodunnit

Sorry - posted too soon!

Yes, I enjoyed the wedding at the time. I was amused to hear Christopher Foulas (royal journo?) on the Lip Reading the Royals documentary last week say “if you’re gay, a royal wedding is like the cup final!”. 🤣❤️ I realised I felt the same, despite not being gay. I thoroughly enjoy these spectacles and am happy to be one of the masses.

One of the Queen’s suggestions was Tetbury church - did Eugenie or Beatrice get married there? But as we know, they asked for Westminster Abbey.

I think Beatrice had a very low key wedding at a church in Norfolk? It could have been that one.
The point is, the big wedding, the spectacle was their choice. Why they choose to deny it, I don't know.

I apologise for my language. I've been on the H&M threads from before they were married; I'm very sensitive to race-related matters on them (no need to rehash it all). I should have tempered my response.

I see what you're saying, and was wrong to jump to the conclusion that you were saying 'of course mixed-race Meghan was going to have a fantastic wedding - she was marrying a white man'.

However, even in your explanation you're making assumptions based on race - and that is racist. Perhaps you should look at photos of Nigerian (aptly), or Thai, or Indian, or Saudi royal/"royal" weddings. They put H&M's charade to shame when it comes to "fantastic" weddings. Harry is not at the very apex of privilege by those standards - far from it!

Sadly, if you read some Sussex Squad sites such as Celebitchy, it does very much seem that H being white IS important. I’ve always found that distasteful and it is definitely racist, but there are actually women of colour on there (they identify as such) who talk gushingly about “our bi-racial princess and her white prince”.

It’s depressing that H’s ethnicity is seen as a trophy.

Complete with bridal favours of waccy baccy!

Although, to clarify, that was not my point. I was just underlining the level of his privilege. Could you be more privileged that a rich, white prince?
I personally don't think he's a catch and I have no idea how Meghan puts up with that foolish man child.
Interesting that some fans think him being white means he's "a catch". So racist.

On our return from that trip I rang Willy, sounded him out, asked his thoughts about where we might get married. I told him we were thinking of Westminster Abbey.

"No good. We did it there," William replied. "Right, right," Harry said. "St. Paul's?" William said: "Too grand. Plus Pa and Mummy did it there."

"He suggested Tetbury," Harry wrote. "I snorted. 'Tetbury? The chapel near Highgrove? Seriously, Willy? How many does that place seat?'"

"Isn't that what you said you wanted—a small, quiet wedding?" William replied. Harry wrote: "In fact we wanted to elope. Barefoot in Botswana, with maybe a friend officiating, that was our dream. But we were expected to share this moment with other people. It wasn't up to us."

"it wasn't up to us"
What nonsense. Why do they always promote themselves as lacking agency and control?

So they can blame everyone else. Charles PoW at the time & heir to the throne had a church blessing and a registry office wedding, as both he & Camilla were divorced. Princess Anne remarried in Scotland. Precedents already there for divorcees marrying in the RF. Seemingly not good enough for Harry though!

IMO, it was very unfair to have William have to be the one managing Harry's expectations. As soon as the engagement was announced the Queen and Charles should have sat them both down and gone through the options. One of which was absolutely a private, low key ceremony.

They could have done what two other grandchildren did - Peter and Zara, they both had private ceremonies with minimal filming of arrivals and exits after the ceremony.

Harry needed to hear that Westminster Abbey and St Pauls were not options for a grandchild of the monarch who wasn't the heir.

@NewAgeNewMe I just think that neither of the really understood their incredible privilege. It's just a source of endless moaning.

Good points, @wordler , although we only have Harry's word that it was William's call. He's chosen to blame him but that could have been the late Queen's decision.

He is contradicting himself. He’s saying he wants the big flash venue but Willy said no. Willy suggests a perfectly acceptable compromise but actually, no, that’s not good enough either . Then Harry insists they wanted a barefoot wedding in Africa with a friend officiating. As if . Who would the friend have been I wonder? He’s like a spoilt child who has no idea what he wants, just something different to what the grown ups are offering. If he doesn’t get his way he screams and throws his toys around .Ive been with a two year old like this today, they are very similar.

Beatrice 's wedding was at a small church on the Windsor Estate.

Yes that is weird - they wanted barefoot in Botswana with a friend officiating but simultaneously Tetbury wasn’t big and fancy enough? As I seem to keep saying - make it make sense!

Beatrice’s wedding was during Covid and after Andrew’s interview with Emily Maitliss. So I think slightly different.

Thanks, it looked like a lovely church.

I've never known 2 people who constantly contradict themselves and can't keep their lies straight.

It was during Covid I think, so quite a different vibe and hardly any guests iirc.

Yes, those were certainly factors.

Ooh sorry x post

I love watching a royal wedding - from seeing how the arriving guests are mingling to those little cutaways to the congregation during the ceremony.

However, we probably shouldn't go to the expense of big televised events for anyone but the direct heir line.

Andrew had to shop Eugenie's wedding to ITV because the BBC turned it down. Beatrice's Covid wedding was very sweet in comparison, and I remember press reports before it ended up being a Covid wedding saying that she was going to have a smaller, non-televised ceremony in one of he smaller London chapels.

It will be interesting how much public appetite there will be for the weddings and Charlotte and Louis. I hope they decide early that they are going to have private ceremonies for them.

As you say, though, they're enjoyable to watch. Spectacles indeed.

We'll see what happens with the alleged reconciliation.