Talks about reconciliation 2

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I've never started a thread here before, but I thought some people might be interested in this take on the story by a PR podcast I listened to yesterday (started listening to this podcast as I know very little about PR!).

It would be good to know if any of the resident PR people agree.

When It Hits The Fan: A Right Royal Whodunnit

I agree he has a complete lack of empathy for anyone else. The arguing with KC on the morning of QEs death and detailing this in his book as though he was in the right, tells you everything about his character.

Also, what baloney. He never sat anywhere, waiting. His flight arrived and the limousine took him to Westminster Abbey, then took him back at the end.
Honest to God. Does he realise how lucky he was to be invited after trashing everyone like that?

It ends with him driving off from his 20 milllion property in his luxury Audi nake
dropping his mum and driving off into the sunset 😂

wanker

Absolutely, @Treeleaf11, was just going to post the same thing. He really has an inability to see anyone else's perspective. Everything centres him. A little bit like when he assumed that the number of google searches for MM when they first went public as a couple showed how popular she was, when most people were searching to find out who on earth she was as they'd never heard of her.

How on earth you could think it was appropriate to be whining on to your about-to-be-bereaved father about travel arrangements on the day his mother is dying beats me. I could understand it more if it was 'gosh, I really need to see Granny while I can' but by his own admission it was all about his wife getting a seat on the plane.

For Harry consequences were for other people to address for him. I've always stood by it was his prerogative to become a tell all, equally it is his families prerogative to decide their future relationship with Harry. Harry's own self importance believes he has authority of both. He's a self entitled man child, if you write a relationship ending book it should come at no surprise it ends some relationships. He's honestly believed there would be a war room meeting, compromises made and security and money given. My time working in HR I was always amazed at the amount of people who not only play out in their mind what they are going to say but also what the other side reply. They couldn't grasp that theirs was the only narrative. I've had to deal with so many people who quit their jobs as they were certain they'd get a pay rise to retract, to find themselves working their notice with no job lined up, begging HR to intervene.

He was also more than a decade younger

I recognise the tactics, the written styles, the game these days and just don't bother to reply to those poster.
Or to those regular posters who defend H&M uncritically, and whose only defense when it is pointed out that H/M did <a bad thing there> is to resort to whattaboutery.

Or the posters who ignore all discussion points and just call us haterz.

@Rhaidimiddim I’m also inclined to ignore most of the tripe those posters come out with and not only because other posters will soon come along and leave their head spinning with their replies.

Never mind him family not forgiving him, or the compromiding of their privacy*

He launched an attack on the future Heads of State. Not the institution that is the monarchy, but the individuals whose job it is to make it work until such time as it is replaced. Their role is tricky enough without inviting H back in, now that he has shown jow little he understands of what tje role his gran, and now his dad, entails.

• Not miminising this at all - H's family are among the most scrutinised individuals on the planet. They must treasure what is private and theirs, in the samecway TLQE2 treasured her nickname.

I didn't read Spare, but read the relevant extracts where he's elder-abusing his dad over the phone as his dad's mum is dying and his dad's life is about to change hugely.

I could have cried for Charles, andcwas glad he had his Camilla and his sibling with him.

What a bl@@dy awful person to have to deal with, while hour mum's dying.

And
" Why are you interested?"
"You can't have an opinion cos you don't know them."

If it's true that H&M have a 'war room' where they scrutinise everything written about them, I just can't understand how it hasn't given them pause for thought and made them see that the way they are going about things is just alienating them more and more.
They must have seen or at least heard about the South Park World Privacy Tour , there's been so, so, so much criticism (even Martin Kemp took the piss out of M the other day) , to not have taken any of it on board is just mind boggling to me.

They both see any criticism whatsoever as unfair attack. They see themselves as victims of his family, the Press, and anyone at all who dares to have an alternative viewpoint or actually question them. I haven’t yet seen them give one interview, either together or separately where they answer questions honestly and allow the interviewer to conduct an unbiased interview.

I don’t understand why Meghan at least can’t see that the humble mea culpa strategy is a winning move at this point.

Also if you can laugh at yourself you win so many more admirers as well as being interesting and easy to be around.

Can narcissists learn to fake self depreciation? I feel as though there are several A listers with quite big egos who also manage to portray a version of themselves that they don’t take too seriously.

She's an actress, so should be able to fake laughing at herself, although any change now in how she presents herself would be very obviously out of character and fake, she's been consistently serious and so earnest when talking about herself , plus if she were to try and change, she would need someone to show her how to do it as I really don't think it would come naturally.

This story is up on a lot of our Australian media sites today. Looks like they'll need to make some space in said war room. ‘Butt of the joke’: Harry and Meghan roasted in ‘Family Guy’ episode | Sky News Australia

Not sure what to believe but the rumour mill is still in overdrive on X.

x.com/CrazyDaysPoster/status/1947086107570487624

@MummyJ12 if the bill’s been paid I’d look at it as a family matter. And who knows - perhaps it’s been paid with the amount to be deducted from any future inheritance. I know people who do that and in more than once instance there were very difficult family dynamics. I’m still of the mind that the King loves Harry and wouldn’t turn his back on him completely especially with the age the King now is. A falling out between family is far different when you’re older to what it is when younger.

Wouldn't surprise me if needing the money was the actual reason for the meeting...

I don't know what to believe either, where do they get the information from? I'd be worried about being sued if I posted something that wasn't true . Also, if a couple of twins from the USA have insider knowledge, wouldn't the uk press also be able to get hold of this ?

@TheMrsCampbellBlack I saw that mentioned in the press a few days ago but I didn’t watch it - apart from chatting here I really can’t be bothered with the two of them anymore. I’ve no doubt that someday in the not too distant future they’ll behave as atrociously towards the RF and the British public as they have in the past but till that day comes I’d rather do my knitting.

This is such an important point.

Not only have H& M spitefully attacked his family on many fronts, but they’ve tried to discredit and destroy the reputation of a Head of State and a future Head of State and his consort on a global platform. I’ve tried to say this a few times on here but you’ve put it better!

As you say, it shows not only personal malice but a total failure to understand his father’s constitutional role, or in fact very much at all about the UK, its history, culture and place in the world (ie precarious). That’s why I feel his behaviour is unforgivable and not just a family spat. KC and W & C will have to deal with people around the world who will wonder whether they are actually racists.

This is why I want Horrble Harry and Malign Meghan to get their come uppance and go and live in obscurity. Some chance, because they’re the gift that keeps on giving to the click-hungry media!

These shows know that mentioning Harry and Meghan gets them attention and free publicity. Nobody takes Family Guy seriously, and if you do, well nothing I say will make a difference.

She just couldn’t do that. Even whatever acting skill she may have (mediocre to say the least) wouldn’t allow her to blame or humiliate herself.