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IAmATorturedPoet · 13/07/2025 13:42

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 13:24

Agree, and also KCIII funeral arrangements.

Edited for typo

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I don't think any funeral details would be discussed with the couple's PR person present would they?
If that was what they were discussing then it makes it even more unlikely that the palace are behind this meeting leak.

I'm veering towards Harry wanting a meeting (for whatever reason) and KC sending Tobyn Andreae and using it as a test, which the couple have failed (again).

jeffgoldblum · 13/07/2025 13:42

MaturingCheeseball · 13/07/2025 13:38

Well @Spectre8 , the meeting must have been about something. I doubt Meredith wotsit flew over from the US to tell a palace aide that Meghan and Harry are living their best life…

You never know! 🤔

isitspringyet · 13/07/2025 13:42

Any reconciliation talks with her father? No thought not 🤣🤣

BemusedAmerican · 13/07/2025 13:44

In addition to the wine, Andreae should have given them a hamper from Highgrove. 😁

MummyJ12 · 13/07/2025 13:46

BemusedAmerican · 13/07/2025 13:44

In addition to the wine, Andreae should have given them a hamper from Highgrove. 😁

With proper jam! 😁

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 13:50

IAmATorturedPoet · 13/07/2025 13:42

I don't think any funeral details would be discussed with the couple's PR person present would they?
If that was what they were discussing then it makes it even more unlikely that the palace are behind this meeting leak.

I'm veering towards Harry wanting a meeting (for whatever reason) and KC sending Tobyn Andreae and using it as a test, which the couple have failed (again).

Senior people appoint others to deal with things for them. Given the platinum jubilee and QEII funeral, I would expect the Royal family to want a 'sounding out' sort of conversation. KCIII won't be close to the detail but it would help everyone to know whether in principle they (H&M, or H, M and some combination of A & L) want to attend. H&M are so difficult that it would make sense to be able to say down the line that the Royal household has been reasonable, even if they are reasonable in vain.

flapjackfairy · 13/07/2025 13:53

LadyJaneGrey18 · 13/07/2025 11:53

I wonder why she feels she has to portray this tough outer shell? Throwing her weight around, bullying people and using her title at every opportunity.

perhaps the tough outer shall is the real.persona and she plays the vulnerable role to keep H hooked. She has gone out of her way to present herself as Diana mark 2 and the suicide threats , car chases etc etc could be her way of subconsciously triggering H to.protect her . She has subtly aped Diana and even claimed to have sought advice from her spirit at the graveside etc.
She has presented the narrative of H as her defender ( slaying the metaphorical dragon to save the fair princess etc ) and I think he is desperate to save her at all costs. Because of course he couldn't save his mother ! He has a chance to atone for that in some way with M. ( not that he has anything to atone for of course)
As I say they are fascinating and their relationship would make a great case study .

Weepixie · 13/07/2025 14:04

BemusedAmerican · 13/07/2025 12:50

I'd encourage them to move to Portugal. Cheaper cost of living, the York cousins are there so the kids will finally have some family besides Doria. Meghan can bring out a Portuguese food- based cookbook.

I think that’s a great idea.

Weepixie · 13/07/2025 14:09

LadyJaneGrey18 · 13/07/2025 13:26

I think so too.

I sincerely hope the day is a very long time coming.

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 14:18

Weepixie · 13/07/2025 14:09

I sincerely hope the day is a very long time coming.

I think we zll do, including people not keen on the monarchy. KCIII has managed to make the monarch role his own. He had a hard act to follow.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 14:20

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 13:32

Well they are free, they are living where they want to. They are making money how they choose to. They are living on luxury judging by the house they have etc. So what hasnt turned out for them then? Your version of what that all means?

For once I hope you’re right, Spectre. I wan them to stay just where they are and continue their lives of unimaginable paradise.

We don’t want their kind here! (Said in the voice of Edward (Reece Shearsmith) from The League of Gentlemen).

jeffgoldblum · 13/07/2025 14:22

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 14:20

For once I hope you’re right, Spectre. I wan them to stay just where they are and continue their lives of unimaginable paradise.

We don’t want their kind here! (Said in the voice of Edward (Reece Shearsmith) from The League of Gentlemen).

🤣 “ this is a local shop , for local people!” 🤣

Words · 13/07/2025 14:35

We need @GiveMeSpanakopita ! She predicted this some weeks ago nd many of us, me very much included, thought for once she was off mark.

I think this Mail article has tacit approval from BP. If it was a Sussex leak they would need to go to BP for a statement. No such statement( 'this was a private meeting. It is not our policy to comment on the contents of such meetings." ) appears in the article.

They must have realised it would be leaked. I doubt BP did but that is just a hunch.

OTOH the BP comms guy looks genuinely startled as he spots the snapper. Possibly pap shots were not part of the deal.

The question is why? It's obvious what the Markles are up to, but anything other than a very low key family reconciliation would play very badly with the public. There are now over 7500 negative responses on the article.

Maybe it was just a fishing expedition to gather strength of public feeling?

Ohpleeeease · 13/07/2025 14:36

BemusedAmerican · 13/07/2025 12:50

I'd encourage them to move to Portugal. Cheaper cost of living, the York cousins are there so the kids will finally have some family besides Doria. Meghan can bring out a Portuguese food- based cookbook.

Er no, please don’t encourage them to do that!😂

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 14:41

According to one of The Squad on X , the meeting was because KC no longer wants William to be his heir and is begging Harry to return .
Mystery solved .

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 14:45

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 14:41

According to one of The Squad on X , the meeting was because KC no longer wants William to be his heir and is begging Harry to return .
Mystery solved .

I'm just picking myself up off the floor 😄

BemusedAmerican · 13/07/2025 14:45

Ohpleeeease · 13/07/2025 14:36

Er no, please don’t encourage them to do that!😂

I had a brilliant idea. It could be a "The Windsors" spin-off. "The Windsors" crossed with the Portuguese equivalent of "A Year in Provence". H & M rent a dilapidated Portuguese farmhouse while waiting for their new house to be built. Think of the potentials!

bluegreygreen · 13/07/2025 14:51

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 14:41

According to one of The Squad on X , the meeting was because KC no longer wants William to be his heir and is begging Harry to return .
Mystery solved .

Yet another reason for the return of the laughing emoji!

jeffgoldblum · 13/07/2025 14:51

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 14:41

According to one of The Squad on X , the meeting was because KC no longer wants William to be his heir and is begging Harry to return .
Mystery solved .

What In the name of holy delusion Batman!!!!!!

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 14:55

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 14:41

According to one of The Squad on X , the meeting was because KC no longer wants William to be his heir and is begging Harry to return .
Mystery solved .

Of course! It’s obvious now they mention it. So Meghan gets to be Queen after all and Doria can start looking for flowing pastel chiffon numbers, as worn by the late Queen Mother.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 15:01

You are all welcome < bows>

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 15:04

Words · 13/07/2025 14:35

We need @GiveMeSpanakopita ! She predicted this some weeks ago nd many of us, me very much included, thought for once she was off mark.

I think this Mail article has tacit approval from BP. If it was a Sussex leak they would need to go to BP for a statement. No such statement( 'this was a private meeting. It is not our policy to comment on the contents of such meetings." ) appears in the article.

They must have realised it would be leaked. I doubt BP did but that is just a hunch.

OTOH the BP comms guy looks genuinely startled as he spots the snapper. Possibly pap shots were not part of the deal.

The question is why? It's obvious what the Markles are up to, but anything other than a very low key family reconciliation would play very badly with the public. There are now over 7500 negative responses on the article.

Maybe it was just a fishing expedition to gather strength of public feeling?

I am not @GiveMeSpanakopita but I am a PR person. I am sure this meeting was agreed by BP. Aides would not meet with a representative of H otherwise. I agree with you that the first move was made by Harry's camp and that BP agreed to cooperate with the article and that they didn't expect the pap.

Overall, I see this as more of BP's quiet, reasoned approach to dealing with the H&M problem. Meeting commits them to nothing. In the eyes of the public, it builds their reputation as reasonable people should Harry continue with his 'My family won't speak to me', especially at a time when KCIII is unwell. The RF has subtly kept the upper hand because the meeting took place in London, with Meredith M (those initials!) as supplicant. The photo helps them as MM looks deflated. The leaking helps them because it shows without them having to lift a finger that H is not to be trusted and has learnt nothing about respecting their privacy. Meanwhile, the family continues with business as usual - France state visit, Princess of Wales at Wimbledon, Duchess of Edinburgh in Serbia, Duke of Edinburgh in Canada.

NautilusLionfish · 13/07/2025 15:05

OlympicWomen · 13/07/2025 09:06

@NautilusLionfish the RF don't "preach love and harmony". They don't preach anything.
That's entirely the modus vivandi of the Sussexes.

RF don't preach harmony?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l4jppyjzjo.amp

Or may be they should practice love and harmony

King Charles

Harmony Summit: Inside King Charles's fiery gathering that shone a light on his beliefs - BBC News

The King's philosophy of harmony with nature was on display at the Highgrove summit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l4jppyjzjo.amp

Vespanest · 13/07/2025 15:06

I'm still going with Harry needs help, he hasn't looked good mentally since the last invictus. He's not a great actor. It would be the only reason I could see William giving a seal of reluctant approval. Charles is not stupid and can see that it's William and Catherine most in demand. The soap opera that would follow if Harry did make a limited return would be top notch entertainment. How the PR would attempt to appease the Sussex supporters would mean them earning every penny/cent. Would Harry be a hero or traitor? Who needs Eastenders when a meltdown of any engagement that has Harry near Catherine.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 15:08

Is it too far fetched to think that M deliberately leaked this as she most definitely does not want to return to the U.K.?
Judging by most people’s reaction she will say that the RF has turned everyone against them and it wouldn’t be safe for them here.

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