How can Harry be so deluded?

[HiRen]

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry was assigned a role at birth into a dysfunctional family. He doesn't have to serve a country if he doesn't want to, but that would also mean that he needs to stop with the double standards. Doesn't want the role. Fine. Then step back from press etc.

I would respect him more of he just got a job. I know he will claim he cannot work a normal job because of who he is, but I think he doesn't actually want to live a normal live. He wants to live the life of a rich actor or CEO, which isn't what most people would consider normal.

What conclusion would you draw if your passport application was taking 5 months when everyone else’s is done in 3 weeks?

What is that rubbish about wanting his family to have the same surname? They already had the same name, Mountbatten-Windsor.

Apparently Meghan has bought a domain under her “ new “ name.
My thought is that she/ they have got wind that their titles might be removed and this is her way of maintaining the Sussex link.

If I were a prince of the realm who had chosen to permanently emigrate and whose second child was an American citizen (first too, presumably - not sure), I would conclude that proper discussions need to be had about the short, medium and long-term legal consequences of issuing definitive paperwork surrounding the naming of and titles/honorifics granted to the applicants. I would include in that the consequences of bestowing HRH's on overseas citizens; on consequences for Meghan and the children if Harry divorced and/or wanted to move back to the UK; if Harry doesn't divorce and raises children to adulthood overseas; on consequences for security; on precedents set for future members of the RF; on financial and tax matters; on inheritance, especially with an openly litigious person.... I could go on.

This is exactly it. He's allowed to choose to go: most people would have wished him and his family the very best of luck, and please come back to visit. But when his terms of departure are so seemingly conditional on keeping certain cherry-picked privileges, none of it holds water.

He doesn't want the life of a rich actor or a CEO because those people have to work. He wants the life of a rich aristo posh boy, second son who doesn't need to work, just make the family look good by putting in a couple of days a month at a charity gig.

FFS

We had all sorts of hassle with DD's UK passport. She is adopted, had a different surname because it was from her birth family. Since moving back to the UK she decided she wanted to use my surname, no problem, a simple declaration witnessed by a solicitor.

HOWEVER there are strict rules about the name you use on travel documents, in 99% of cases probably for a good reason (not evading the law!).

And because it is virtually impossible - in practice - to legally change her surname in her country of origin, the UK passport authorities refused to issue her UK passport with the surname she (legally) uses in the UK. I provided evidence that her new surname was the one she habitually used, including school reports and NHS letters. No use.

This isn't about any sort of 'revenge' on H&M, or the HRH, it is simply that you can't pick and choose a surname for a UK passport. It is strictly regulated, and there are internationally agreed rules about what name you can use on internationally recognised travel documents.

The crazy thing with DD is she hasn't actually changed her name significantly. She has added a middle name, and double barrelled her old and new surname. No attempt to hide her original name, just to add to it to reflect her dual family heritage. But, still not allowed.

Please see my post. It took 5-6 months to resolve over the 'change of name' issue.

At one point the passport office were insisting that we change her name back to her birth name, and provide proof that we had done so. Despite the change of name paperwork that was legally valid in the UK.

I’ve said this before but I think he may have a personality disorder.

I know it’s very armchair psychology of me but I do. Delusions of grandeur are probably harder to spot in the royal family due to their status as well..royalty.

I would conclude it's because I was changing my children's surname from Mountbatten-Windsor (their name on birth certificates & my sons previous passport), that I was adding HRH to their titles, they also had US citizenship and were permanent residents in the US it was a fairly complicated process.

Considering many UK citizens can wait up to 12-16 weeks for passport renewals (with none of the changes Harry was implementing) this is not really surprising.

But Harry has always had a massive sense of entitlement. As well as being paranoid.

Reading the article, it sounds as if Halfwit Harry submitted passport applications for "HRH Prince Archie Sussex" when the birth certificate says "Archie Mountbatten-Windsor". And those two names clearly do not match.

Application lands on the desk of some poor sod at the passport office who immediately passes it on to their superiors and there is then a lot of toing and froing and trying to make decisions about whether that's OK or not, and as we all know, public sector organisations do not move swiftly.

Or maybe they just gave someone wholly inappropriate as their countersignatory.

By the sounds of your experience then Harry did actually get special treatment, as he was able to just change his children's surname on a whim. Has he changed it on their birth certificates too?

We could ALL dine out on the massive chip on his shoulder.

I wish he'd never met Megan. He was troubled enough befire, but she's done him NO favours.

I don’t understand why which surname they choose to use is anyone’s business - with 6 months of delays I can understand why he would be considering a different route to just get it done. I don’t see any entitlement or paranoia here, some are just predisposed to seeing the worst no matter what he does.

is it realistic to think Archie & Lili will have the option of choosing to be working royals someday, as the article suggests?

Surely William - who will more than likely be King by then - will have continued with the slimmed down vision for working royals. His own three DCs will also be adults.

There is no "space" for them as working Royals. Will, Kate as King and Queen. Their three children. As the children grow, marry and have children of their own, Charlotte and Louis become far less relevant. Archie and Lilly become as relevant as Lord Linley and Sarah Chatto (i.e not relevant at all)

They can’t be removed unless there is a change in the law, and it would look pretty bad if anyone tried to take away a personal gift from the late queen to her grandson.

I don't care. Harry's the one who's making the fuss and leaking all about it to the Press. Take it up with him.

While you're there - tell him changing his children's name to a different one than shown on their birth certificates (& previous passports) will always be complicated - whether he uses Sussex, Spencer or whatever name he next decides.

A passport is a legal document that people use for identification purposes. You can't apply for a passport using a name that doesn't match your birth certificate and it appears that Harry did that. The whole process is extremely tight these days.

This isn't Harry being treated differently from everyone else, it's him being treated exactly the same.

Probably!

DDs passports, UK and country of origin, are in her birth name - Firstname Birthsurname.

Her everyday life in the UK uses her chosen name, under a Statutory Declaration, of Firstname Middlename Adoptedsurname-Birthsurname. As she is legally entitled to do.

Changing her name legally in her country of origin will take 3-4 years and a lot of money. Until that is done she cannot get her country of origin passport in her 'new' name, which means she can't get her UK passport in her 'new' name. You can't have international travel documents in different names.

So we gave up. As I said, her 'new' name isn't a million miles away from her 'old' name. I would be worried about any law enforcement officer who couldn't spot that there might be a connection 😂

The name you use on documents for international travel are very much other people's business. Largely for reasons of preventing terrorism, international crime etc

He is such a pillock. Brief the press about this shite only makes him look out of touch but he’s doing it anyway because he does not understand that rules also apply to him. He is happily lobbing rubber hand grenades at the palace, via the press, which keep bouncing back on to him!

I see the Firms PR machine is out in force again.

He didn't choose this life and all he's ever asked is that the media stop posting negative stories about his wife and family when at the same time they're all loving up the rest of the royal family

I also strongly don't think he actually is Charles' son, but that's a whole other story.

Sorry, just got momentarily distracted by that video of heavily pregnant Meghan twerking to induce labour 😳

This isn't Harry being treated differently from everyone else, it's him being treated exactly the same.

This is exactly right. After a lifetime of being treated differently, he's now being treated ordinarily. Which still doesn't mean like you and I, I'm pretty sure he still has many privileges that we could only dream of. But it's akin to his entitlement when he demanded to know the Home Office's thought process during a judicial review of their ruling on something: NOBODY gets an explanation from the Home Office, other than people to whom the Home Office owe their existence (Parliament, the monarch, perhaps the PM on operational matters). Harry felt he was owed one just before being him. He simply doesn't understand what he's done by leaving the RF. Still. And now leaking to the Guardian!

I had been using my step-dads last name since I was about 8 but when it came time to get a passport it was a complete nightmare to get them to put that on as it was different than my birth certificate name. I had to supply years of evidence that I had been using that name and there was so much going back and forth.

Of course though, when it's Harry and his every whim isn't instantly granted, he is being victimized 🙄