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How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 19:27

MrsSunshine2b · 04/06/2025 19:20

Why does he? He's dealt with press intrusion his whole life. It's not his fault he's famous and if he wants to use it to his advantage he's doing nothing wrong.

He's not using press intrusion to his advantage (except for WellChild and Invictus which I do think that he (although not Meghan) uses for the benefit of the causes in question).

He's mostly, by a wide margin, using it to others' (his family's) disadvantage. If that = an advantage to him, which I think it does (all the moaning and press releases around security etc), he's got more problems coming his way than he had before.

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 19:29

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 19:17

Well, exactly.

As I said above, peerage titles are used as a convention in British aristocracy, but they have no legal status. Their surname is Mountbatten-Windsor, whether Harry likes it or not.

I think it's all probably a bit murky. After all, there's not a lot of precedent for him to follow, and it probably does all happen by the grace of this person or that, ultimately. And, it's probably the case that William's admin gets fast-tracked, his doesn't. But that all makes sense within the workings of a royal family. As ever, he's picking the bits he likes, discarding the bits he doesn't like and taking everything moronically personally - and making a delusional fool of himself in the process.

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viques · 04/06/2025 19:31

Since Archie was born in the Uk but moved with his parents to the US I assume he had a perfectly acceptable passport already, so I imagine some of the delay involved a decision as to whether or not changing a valid passport name for a minor child to a name that had no relationship with their birth certificate name merely on a parental whim was a reasonable action.

Because I don’t think it would work for the rest of us.

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 19:32

HiRen · 04/06/2025 19:29

I think it's all probably a bit murky. After all, there's not a lot of precedent for him to follow, and it probably does all happen by the grace of this person or that, ultimately. And, it's probably the case that William's admin gets fast-tracked, his doesn't. But that all makes sense within the workings of a royal family. As ever, he's picking the bits he likes, discarding the bits he doesn't like and taking everything moronically personally - and making a delusional fool of himself in the process.

But William doesn't live in California, have dual nationality children and presumably isn't trying to use a surname which doesn't exist.

I can see several very valid reasons why this passport application had delays.

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 04/06/2025 19:32

Orangemintcream · 04/06/2025 17:57

I’ve said this before but I think he may have a personality disorder.

I know it’s very armchair psychology of me but I do. Delusions of grandeur are probably harder to spot in the royal family due to their status as well..royalty.

I suspect they are both bolstering each other in delusion.

I worked for a professional couple and it was gut churning hearing them talking each other up and encouraging each other to higher and higher weirdness. They were both as mad as tartan toast but they seemed to only take points of reference from each other while the real world seemed to not impinge on them in the slightest.

Working for them was hell as if they didn't want to see or hear something, no matter how important, they would back each other in their blindness and deafness to the truth.

I suspect there is an element of that going on.

I wish they would just lead quiet lives. They are making themselves a target with their craven ways.

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 19:34

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 04/06/2025 19:20

Of course you can! Anyone can legally change their name, through a deed, through marriage etc., and apply for a passport presenting the relative documents for proof.

Well, if Harry changed his children's surname to Sussex by deed poll before applying, then that changes things. The article does not say that, though.

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 19:36

Going back to something said a few pages ago about a revolving door of Nannie’s - William and Harry only ever had 2 Nannie’s, Olga Powell who was with them for 15 years and Tiggy Legg Bourke who was with them for 6 years.

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2025 19:37

Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

Because the manner of his outcast-from-the-RF mother's death sparked more conspiracy theories than the moon landing?

Because he'll have heard the rumours about his supposed true paternity?

Those are two that spring to mind but I'm sure I could come up with plenty more if I could be arsed. And I'm no Harry/Megs stan.

Ohpleeeease · 04/06/2025 19:38

FloraBotticelli · 04/06/2025 17:45

What conclusion would you draw if your passport application was taking 5 months when everyone else’s is done in 3 weeks?

I would conclude that I had failed to provide the required means of identification in the format required by the Passport Office, as everyone else has to. I would conclude that the Passport Office were perhaps exercising due diligence in taking their time issuing passports to minors with made up names.

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2025 19:39

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 19:36

Going back to something said a few pages ago about a revolving door of Nannie’s - William and Harry only ever had 2 Nannie’s, Olga Powell who was with them for 15 years and Tiggy Legg Bourke who was with them for 6 years.

Tiggy! 💕

Yegads - that takes me back. Ah, the posh English and their strange pet names.

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:39

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 19:36

Going back to something said a few pages ago about a revolving door of Nannie’s - William and Harry only ever had 2 Nannie’s, Olga Powell who was with them for 15 years and Tiggy Legg Bourke who was with them for 6 years.

Is Tiggy still in their lives?

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 04/06/2025 19:40

I don't think he's very bright and thick people will believe all sorts of crap as they are, in general, unable to apply a measured or thoughtful response and just go with their first reaction which is usually an overblown one that hasn't been thought through.

I'm sick to death of the pair of them. I was on the fence until her Oprah interview which was utterly shocking with the lies and bias and his writing his pack of lies book.

They are actually quite dangerous as they hold influence and genes but without two brain cells to rub together.

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 19:42

MrsSunshine2b · 04/06/2025 19:20

Why does he? He's dealt with press intrusion his whole life. It's not his fault he's famous and if he wants to use it to his advantage he's doing nothing wrong.

If he uses the press he doesn't get to complain about it. It's like working for a bad employer and complain about it instead of moving on. You can't change your employer and he can't change the press by staying in it.

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 19:44

I agree he isn't very bright, but not so bright people don't automatically act so entitled. Whoever suggested personality disorder might be onto something.

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2025 19:45

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:39

Is Tiggy still in their lives?

Dunno.

Unfortunately, things have taken rather a turn in her own life so I doubt she'd be much of a sounding board for Hazza these days - her stepson was murdered in the New Orleans attack at New Year.

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 19:45

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 19:44

I agree he isn't very bright, but not so bright people don't automatically act so entitled. Whoever suggested personality disorder might be onto something.

But he's literally entitled. He's a Prince of the Realm.

Andrew is similar. A toxic mix of arrogance and stupidity.

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:47

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2025 19:45

Dunno.

Unfortunately, things have taken rather a turn in her own life so I doubt she'd be much of a sounding board for Hazza these days - her stepson was murdered in the New Orleans attack at New Year.

How horrific. I didn’t know this. She seemed a kind, steady influence but the earlier lies around PC also terrible.

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 19:48

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:39

Is Tiggy still in their lives?

Yes. She is.

its also said she’s a godmother to Archie.

I didn’t know her stepson had died recently.

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 19:48

Pricelessadvice · 04/06/2025 19:24

Having read his book recently, I can’t help feel that he was going to turn out this way regardless. Without sounding horrible, I did get the impression that he was looking for a reason for his troubles, and landed on his mothers death as the sole cause.
No doubt it had an impact, but I do think he was always going to have problems.

I'm finally reading Tina Brown's The Palace Papers. One thing really struck me, that as an adult William said that the shock of being told about his mothers death has never gone away despite people saying that it would and that he still bears the weight of that shock.

I found this terribly sad.

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 19:49

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:47

How horrific. I didn’t know this. She seemed a kind, steady influence but the earlier lies around PC also terrible.

You mean Martin Bashir's lies?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/06/2025 19:49

hyggetyggedotorg · 04/06/2025 18:04

is it realistic to think Archie & Lili will have the option of choosing to be working royals someday, as the article suggests?

Surely William - who will more than likely be King by then - will have continued with the slimmed down vision for working royals. His own three DCs will also be adults.

The short answer to that is likely to be "nobody asked you, sir," she said.

Harry's children have very little chance of having the option of deciding when they are older that they want to do a job for which they have had no training and for which there will by then be plenty of other people who have had the training and don't have parents who are frankly an embarrassment to the firm they want to join.

Horserider5678 · 04/06/2025 19:49

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 17:43

Harry was assigned a role at birth into a dysfunctional family. He doesn't have to serve a country if he doesn't want to, but that would also mean that he needs to stop with the double standards. Doesn't want the role. Fine. Then step back from press etc.

I would respect him more of he just got a job. I know he will claim he cannot work a normal job because of who he is, but I think he doesn't actually want to live a normal live. He wants to live the life of a rich actor or CEO, which isn't what most people would consider normal.

I think you find it’s the more the press now! The DM has at least 5 items in him and Meghan daily, which is ridiculous! Whilst we’re at it it’s time to remove St Catherine and William from their pedestals, they’re more behind it than we’ll ever know!

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 04/06/2025 19:51

MrsFinkelstein · 04/06/2025 18:07

I don't care. Harry's the one who's making the fuss and leaking all about it to the Press. Take it up with him.

While you're there - tell him changing his children's name to a different one than shown on their birth certificates (& previous passports) will always be complicated - whether he uses Sussex, Spencer or whatever name he next decides.

His Mum used to brief the press and then complain about press intrusion so there's a genetic predisposition to this sort of thing.

User14March · 04/06/2025 19:51

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 19:49

You mean Martin Bashir's lies?

Yep, absolutely. Shocking & I shouldn’t have said rumours.

CurlewKate · 04/06/2025 19:54

You would have thought the Passport Office would have got a bit of a wobble on when dealing with two of the most famous children in the world, though. It’s not as if there would be any difficulty in identifying them.
The poshest friend I have is Penelope- known as Plods….

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