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How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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Baital · 04/06/2025 18:30

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/06/2025 18:26

But that’s not the same in the uk - via deed poll you can change your name in a matter of weeks - a few of my friends created a blended surname when they got married (so neither of their unmarried names nor double -barrelled) and it was straightforward.

If he wanted to he could have changed the whole family’s name via deed poll - he was clearly worried that there was something specific about the name Sussex and the delays were something to do with that. So to get around it he thought of using Spencer instead.

if you look at it without hate-filled glasses there’s really no drama here and yes, it is none of our business.

We are in the UK.

There is no problem about her 'new' name in any other aspect of her life - school, NHS etc

But until her country of origin acknowledges her 'new' name, her UK passport cannot be issued in her 'new' name. Because the rules are that you cannot have passports in different names. Even though her passport from her country of origin is expired.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/06/2025 18:31

Treacletoots · 04/06/2025 18:11

I see the Firms PR machine is out in force again.

He didn't choose this life and all he's ever asked is that the media stop posting negative stories about his wife and family when at the same time they're all loving up the rest of the royal family

I also strongly don't think he actually is Charles' son, but that's a whole other story.

He may not have chosen royal life but he has certainly chosen celebrity life, he doesn’t control the media so tough shit if he gets hurty feels about what they write, act like a celebrity, get treated like one, his choice to live a high profile celebrity life, not one jot of sympathy here.

HiRen · 04/06/2025 18:32

Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2025 18:28

Re - reading that article , Harry suggests it will be up to A and L if they want to be working Royals but surely he knows it doesn’t work like that ? Beatrice and Eugenie ( or at least their parents) wanted them to be working Royals but were told no .
I cannot envisage any circumstances where William would allow it .

This is such a typical utterance of ignorance from Harry, it didn't even properly register with me. On what basis does Harry thing his children - raised in California, never coming to the UK, knowing none of his family, not knowing anything of the Church of England or the UK's armed forces, and so on and so forth - might be able to CHOOSE whether they will deign to allow the RF the benefit of their efforts? They, the children of parents who have provably sought to undermine the work and standing of the RF? Whose father has taken the monarch's institutions to court - and lost?

Just, what planet is he on???

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IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 18:32

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/06/2025 18:26

But that’s not the same in the uk - via deed poll you can change your name in a matter of weeks - a few of my friends created a blended surname when they got married (so neither of their unmarried names nor double -barrelled) and it was straightforward.

If he wanted to he could have changed the whole family’s name via deed poll - he was clearly worried that there was something specific about the name Sussex and the delays were something to do with that. So to get around it he thought of using Spencer instead.

if you look at it without hate-filled glasses there’s really no drama here and yes, it is none of our business.

What are 'hate filled glasses' when they're at home? Do love filled glasses also exist?

As for 'none of our business', you should take that up with Harry. He's the one who leaked it to the press. Noone would have had a clue if he had not.

HiRen · 04/06/2025 18:33

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 18:30

Of all the odd things they've done, this has to be one of the oddest. I'm sure they are aiming for cute but have just achieved...odd, at least when put out for the entire world to see (so much for privacy)

Wonder if Harry had been at the gas and air again.

Aiming for cute, landed as far away from HRH as might have been possible!

JFC. They need to fire those 11 new comms people stat. This is horrendous!

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Weepixie · 04/06/2025 18:35

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 18:17

Please help me unsee that Insta reel.

I rather liked it. It was nice though contrived and well rehearsed.

And perhaps she was in labour but not established labour so she’d been told to stay active to try and bring things on.

I recall with one of my girls that she was having contractions but not real ones/ not Braxton Hicks either and we were doing rounds of the maternity wing corridors using the water cooler as a guide to count her ‘not real contractions’. Round and round we went for about an hour and she had her baby 3 hours later. She already had her room, she’d been given it when admitted in ‘not real Labour’ but were not in the Uk so maybe that’s relevant.

And I thought the bumpy bits under her clothes was probably a maternity belt women use if they need a bit of support or they’re having trouble with that pubic ligament pain - I can’t recall the name.

None of the above will ever change who they are, and the things they’ve done though.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/06/2025 18:35

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 18:17

Please help me unsee that Insta reel.

I actually found it revolting 🤮

Sunnysideup999 · 04/06/2025 18:36

I don’t think he has personality disorder but I do think he was deeply traumatised as a young boy by what happened to his mother and left a drift to deal with it without proper help or guidance. He lost his mother - his guide - in horrifically tragic and very public circumstances and never recovered .

Buxusmortus · 04/06/2025 18:36

Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2025 18:28

Re - reading that article , Harry suggests it will be up to A and L if they want to be working Royals but surely he knows it doesn’t work like that ? Beatrice and Eugenie ( or at least their parents) wanted them to be working Royals but were told no .
I cannot envisage any circumstances where William would allow it .

Exactly. I can't imagine why he thinks it will be their choice whether or not to be working royals. By the time they're of an age to be so, William will be King, William's children will be adults and working royals themselves.

Quite why Harry thinks William( or the British public) would want 2 people who are American, brought up in America and who will have rarely, if ever, visited the UK, who will have no idea whatsoever about royal life or royal duty, to represent the royal family on public duties, is completely baffling. Just shows the extent of his self-obsession and delusion.

Baital · 04/06/2025 18:39

Oh, and the banks in the UK, despite tight regulations re: names managed to cope with the change.

But not the Passport Office. As I said, they even said she had to change her name back to match her previous name - and provide evidence she was using her old name - before they would issue the passport. At which point I lost the will to live and made a Statutory declaration reversing it, but before I could get proof I had reversed it the Passport Office realised that the 5-6 months it had taken wasn't looking good in their performance stats, and issued the passport (in her old name).

All a long winded way of saying that you can't just get a passport in whatever name you fancy!

Uricon2 · 04/06/2025 18:39

HiRen · 04/06/2025 18:33

Aiming for cute, landed as far away from HRH as might have been possible!

JFC. They need to fire those 11 new comms people stat. This is horrendous!

William and Kate could have been doing the rowing dance to "oops upside your head" while she was in labour. We'll never know, because they have more commonsense and dignity than to make private moments (in a delivery room!) into a public show.

Screamingabdabz · 04/06/2025 18:39

Yeah like two Californian kids brought up in a household full of paranoia, bullying the staff and narcissism are ever going to be a good fit for horse shows, balcony waving, long church services and walking around hospices. 😂

SophieSoftly · 04/06/2025 18:40

Treacletoots · 04/06/2025 18:11

I see the Firms PR machine is out in force again.

He didn't choose this life and all he's ever asked is that the media stop posting negative stories about his wife and family when at the same time they're all loving up the rest of the royal family

I also strongly don't think he actually is Charles' son, but that's a whole other story.

Meanwhile I was just looking at the photo on that Guardian piece, wondering how anyone ever doubted he was Charles’s son - the resemblance is particularly strong in that pic.

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 18:41

HiRen · 04/06/2025 18:32

This is such a typical utterance of ignorance from Harry, it didn't even properly register with me. On what basis does Harry thing his children - raised in California, never coming to the UK, knowing none of his family, not knowing anything of the Church of England or the UK's armed forces, and so on and so forth - might be able to CHOOSE whether they will deign to allow the RF the benefit of their efforts? They, the children of parents who have provably sought to undermine the work and standing of the RF? Whose father has taken the monarch's institutions to court - and lost?

Just, what planet is he on???

It's all of a piece with the 35 years of service comment. He really really doesn't understand how the Monarchy works, which is staggering for an actual member of the family.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 04/06/2025 18:42

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 04/06/2025 18:29

Yes I’m sure he had servants looking after him while he was serving in Afghanistan. Jesus.

Hmm, I guess you’ve not seen the “Bunker Harry” moniker and allegations then 🤷🏼‍♀️

StrawberryWasp · 04/06/2025 18:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/06/2025 18:35

I actually found it revolting 🤮

It may be 'cute' for them to look at or show the kids but to publicly share something so intimate and personal feels deeply icky.

Very ill judged.

Can you imagine Kate and William doing this?🤣

Personally I just can't get my head around filming yourself all the time. If I suggested to my DH we set up a camera to film ourselves dancing he'd think I'd lost the plot.
Or would just ask 'why?' Deeply confused.

Anyone filming their life for content...🚩🚩

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 18:43

SophieSoftly · 04/06/2025 18:40

Meanwhile I was just looking at the photo on that Guardian piece, wondering how anyone ever doubted he was Charles’s son - the resemblance is particularly strong in that pic.

He’s the image of Prince Phillip as a young man.

Vespanest · 04/06/2025 18:45

I just find it really odd, after using the Queens nickname as some sort of nod to her importance to them that they then decide to drop the same woman's last name. I'm pretty confident on which names the queen would find respectful to her and which would be disrespectful.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/06/2025 18:49

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 18:08

A passport is a legal document that people use for identification purposes. You can't apply for a passport using a name that doesn't match your birth certificate and it appears that Harry did that. The whole process is extremely tight these days.

This isn't Harry being treated differently from everyone else, it's him being treated exactly the same.

Very true, MrsLF, but you're bringing common sense into it and that really doesn't work where Harry's concerned

In fairness though this is all "the Guardian's been told" and "the Guardian understands", so I'd prefer to hear Harry's (inevitably manic) take on it - which may not take long given the amount of blabbing he's doing

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 18:50

tammienorrie · 04/06/2025 18:01

Reading the article, it sounds as if Halfwit Harry submitted passport applications for "HRH Prince Archie Sussex" when the birth certificate says "Archie Mountbatten-Windsor". And those two names clearly do not match.

Application lands on the desk of some poor sod at the passport office who immediately passes it on to their superiors and there is then a lot of toing and froing and trying to make decisions about whether that's OK or not, and as we all know, public sector organisations do not move swiftly.

Or maybe they just gave someone wholly inappropriate as their countersignatory.

Also, AFAIK, peerage derived names like 'Sussex' are used as a convention within Britain, but they don't have any legal status. Certainly not on an international document like a passport. Legally, his and the children's name is Mountbatten Windsor.

Matcha95 · 04/06/2025 18:50

Smoking weed long term can lead to paranoia. Just saying…

m00rfarm · 04/06/2025 18:51

Treacletoots · 04/06/2025 18:11

I see the Firms PR machine is out in force again.

He didn't choose this life and all he's ever asked is that the media stop posting negative stories about his wife and family when at the same time they're all loving up the rest of the royal family

I also strongly don't think he actually is Charles' son, but that's a whole other story.

Do you honestly think that if he were not Charles' son, then something would have been done about it - I would imagine the RF would be as happy as anything if there was proof that Harry was nothing to do with the RF. It would paint Diana in a different light, and get rid of Harry for good. Nope. He is definitely Charles' son.

FloraBotticelli · 04/06/2025 18:51

I must be being really dense, but please can someone explain in simple terms how a name on a passport has any bearing on royal rules, tax, divorce, security etc - how is Charles’ decision making and law that weak as to rest on the title/name printed on a travel document?

Tbh I can see Harry’s logic in saying that A&L need to decide for themselves about being working royals. It’s the very logic that ‘the firm’ rests on and that the country upholds - serving solely by virtue of birth. We can’t have it both ways!

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 18:52

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/06/2025 18:49

Very true, MrsLF, but you're bringing common sense into it and that really doesn't work where Harry's concerned

In fairness though this is all "the Guardian's been told" and "the Guardian understands", so I'd prefer to hear Harry's (inevitably manic) take on it - which may not take long given the amount of blabbing he's doing

Surely after the last debacle he has learnt not to agree to interviews?

But it would be interesting to hear his reasoning.

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 18:54

FloraBotticelli · 04/06/2025 18:51

I must be being really dense, but please can someone explain in simple terms how a name on a passport has any bearing on royal rules, tax, divorce, security etc - how is Charles’ decision making and law that weak as to rest on the title/name printed on a travel document?

Tbh I can see Harry’s logic in saying that A&L need to decide for themselves about being working royals. It’s the very logic that ‘the firm’ rests on and that the country upholds - serving solely by virtue of birth. We can’t have it both ways!

Well no.

There is no law saying that the children of the exiled 5th in line should get cushy jobs representing a country they know next to nothing about.

To me this all just reinforces my view that Harry desperately misses his royal life and is reaching out for any chance of finding a way back. In vain.

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