How can Harry be so deluded?

[HiRen]

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Why didn’t you just get a deed poll?

That mine got stuck at the bottom of the pile. We had this a year or two ago. Two came back remarkably quickly. One didn’t. We waited and waited until eventually, and anxiously, we rang the passport office. It turned out they mostly work from home these days and it was sitting in a pile waiting to be posted.

A lot can happen before then, Mylovelygreendress, but if the article's correct and if William refused the children positions as working royals it would doubtless become just another axe for Harry to grind

So nothing new there at all

Was about to say same, there’s someone else, almost in public eye, on fringes of his set who has very sadly gone full ‘tin foil hat’ for this reason. His whole house was a permanent hot box fug.

Harry is the epitome of a life of privilege and entitlement, someone raised by a revolving door of nannies who were paid to never say No to him, and two self absorbed parents who were more interested in their emotional attachments to others than raising their kids. I bet he can't even boil a kettle, let alone make himself a drink. He has zero life skills, zero need to make something of himself, and he wants his life handed to him on a plate just because he is who he is, and he "deserves" it in his own mind. And Meghan is a similar character, so she brings nothing to the marriage to temper his behaviour.

Don't get me wrong, I also think that William has a degree of arrogance about him but he at least understands his duty and he and Kate seemed very determined to break the cold and unfeeling method of raising royal children. I can see George, Charlotte and Louis becoming confident and grounded adults.

All the threads I have read about the Passport Office, as a government agency seemingly second only in uselessness to the DVSA, make me doubt any conspiracy or interference.

I don’t understand why which surname they choose to use is anyone’s business

It’s not - up until the point where they want to use it on an official document like a passport. There are strict rules about that, as a passport is a one of the few internationally recognised identity documents.

It sounds to me like Megan’s narcissistic entitlement is affecting Harry.

Nope this is pure Harry through and through!

But it isn't their choice! The monarch decides who represents them I.e. is a 'working' royal and funded for that.

The best way Harry can keep his children in the frame for Charles/William to ask A&L to take on that role is to do his best to build a strong relationship between them and their grandfather / uncle.

He's doing the opposite

Also, we have a friend with a hereditary title with a different name from his surname (Scottish title that passes down the female as well as the male line). His paperwork is a mess. His passport has Lord as his Christian name, his Christian name and surname as his middle names and the place he is ostensibly Lord of as his surname. They passport office seem not to know how to deal with applications that don’t follow standard naming practices.

Shame he didn’t do a bit of research into the working lives of Princess Margaret’s children ( no HRH, no “royal” title), or the lives of Princess .Anne’s children ( no HRH, no “royal” title) , looks as though Prince Edwards children are titled but not HRH’d, but not working yet. It seems to be only Andrews children who have been lumbered with Royal titles, and we all know what their work ethic was when they were younger!

I think all Harry can hope is that his children have inherited the work ethics of both sets of their grandparents , not their parents.

Still special treatment really, since most people would have to provide some kind of proof of name change.

Deed Poll is not UK-wide, it’s an England & Wales thing. There’s no such thing as Deed Poll in Scotland. The process for changing name is different there.

My feeling is that he's a totally entitled CF.

So his mother died when he was a child? Sad, but plenty of children have lost their parents & ended up in care which he didn't.

He wants us UK taxpayers to pay for his security whilst in the UK & what does the taxpayer get back? Diddly squat. He chose to move to the USA & live off his mother's millions & his wife's <not unsubstantial> income.

All he does is moan about how he's been treated badly. I have no sympathy for him. He & his wife are worth millions. Get on with your life & stop winging I say.

If the children's surname is Mountbatten Windsor, why did he apply under "Sussex"? How ignorant do you have to be to do something like this?

Edward and Sophie opted to style them as the children of an Earl, not a Prince. They would ordinarily by HRH Princess / Prince and could be if they wished, but the parents felt they could have more normal lives as Lord / Lady, on the grounds that, while not two a penny, these title are found in the general population. Certainly our friend works and doesn’t have an estate. I think his ancestors did about 200 years ago and some idiot gambled it away in a single night, rather like in Poldark.

Surely after the last debacle he has learnt not to agree to interviews?

It would be nice to think so, @MrsLeonFarrell, but every bit of his behaviour suggests he's learned nothing at all besides how to whine and make a complete fool of himself

As already said I'm deeply dubious about clickbaity articles from trash media who use "the (source) has been told/understands ..." in a weaselly attempt to avoid comeback, but if any of this is true we'll doubtless hear Harry's version soon enough

100%. He's a different person.

Well, exactly.

As I said above, peerage titles are used as a convention in British aristocracy, but they have no legal status. Their surname is Mountbatten-Windsor, whether Harry likes it or not.

Of course you can! Anyone can legally change their name, through a deed, through marriage etc., and apply for a passport presenting the relative documents for proof.

Why does he? He's dealt with press intrusion his whole life. It's not his fault he's famous and if he wants to use it to his advantage he's doing nothing wrong.

I think Harry has got to the panicking point, he has wealth but not the wealth needed, he's lumbered his children with titles and an expectancy of a life that Harry is unable to provide for them. He no longer if he ever did make any sense. Why on earth would he want to have his children working for the "institution" that he believes has deliberately put their lives at risk.

Bearing in mind that both Mountbatten and Windsor are names which were themselves made up to suit the circumstances at the time, I suppose it could be argued that just for once H&M wanted something authentic for the kids

Then again, considering the amount the pair make up themselves an invented surname probably fits just fine

Having read his book recently, I can’t help feel that he was going to turn out this way regardless. Without sounding horrible, I did get the impression that he was looking for a reason for his troubles, and landed on his mothers death as the sole cause.
No doubt it had an impact, but I do think he was always going to have problems.