How can Harry be so deluded?

[HiRen]

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Omg why?

Says it all doesn't it ?

What would be the problem if George were gay?

A future monarch being gay really isn’t an issue. If he didn’t have any heirs, that’s what the LoS is for.
In terms of surrogacy, well we will have to be on moonbump watch …..

As Serenster said - it wouldn’t create any ‘issues’ - lots of fodder for the newspapers I’m sure but it’s a really simple scenario.

He could choose to abdicate for the sake of his privacy and his future partner’s privacy.

He could choose to stay in the LoS.

Either way Charlotte becomes the heir and her children the next in line, or Louis etc.

If William lives until - at the minimum - his 70s/80s then his children will be in their 40s/50s by then so their sexuality / partners / offspring will all have been clear and sorted long before any of them become the monarch.

If William lives as long as his grandparents then George will be in his 60s before he becomes the monarch - it will be very clear who is next in LoS by then the Wales kids might even be grandparents!

The RF would continue to adapt, as they did to Charles/ Andrew / Anne divorcing, and two of them remarrying. Which would have been unimaginable in previous generations.

Some members of the tabloid press, particularly going back to the (fortunately defunct) News of the World. Some members of the royal family and background cronies.

Lord Ivar Mountbatten?

Okay - here goes:

*1 I don't see this as about winning or losing on either side. The situation wasn't tenable for Harry and Meghan, so they got out. Good decision I think. No-one won. Things just changed.

On reconciliation - Harry's family will always be his family. He may want his children (innocent parties in this) to maintain ties with the royal family.

Prince Charles (sorry the King) is pretty ill. Harry may want closure regardless of the relationship. Impending death focuses the mind.

*2 You can both fight and use the press, as in "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". Diana learnt how to do this. If she hadn't have used the press the way she did, she would have come across as a complete victim. Diana fought back by using her enemies. Clever girl. I think it's called a symbiotic relationship.

So Harry should carry on and get the bastards...

PS I'm not a royalist, just very glad I wasn't born HRH

How is he going to “get the bastards”? What makes him important enough to do that? What does he have to “get” them with that he hasn’t already tried? I don’t think anything you have mentioned above will work 🤷‍♀️

It's more the circumstances surrounding the death. The history of press intrusion, the crazy royal protocol which meant Charles couldn't have married a divorcee (Henry VIII didn't mind). So much trauma would have been avoided and the result is now what it would have been - Charles and Camilla together.
The decision on the night was a tragedy but anyone can make a bad decision. Without the frantic press entourage in hot pursuit the accident would have been unlikely.

If the driver hadn’t been drunk , it might not have happened.
if they had worn seatbelts, it might not have happened.
if plans had been stuck to , it might not have happened.

If you support Harry why are you suggesting that him not existing would be a good thing?

Well no-one asks to be alive. PS, I don't support Harry. I'm just happy not to be him and happy that he spends his life getting bastards. At least he's not sitting glued to daytime TV knocking back Vodka

How do you know he isn’t doing that? The only bastards he gets are in his video games. You sound like a very strange person.

If she hadn’t been knocking about with a playboy who had recently broken off an engagement to try and bag her it might not have happened either .

Video Games? You sound pretty strange yourself - although I think I saw him on socials playing Willshammer...

If she hadn't got rid of her royal protection because Martin Bashir told a pack of lies to her about them - to procure an interview Harry persists in using for his own financial gain. Bashir and the BBC are "bastards" that did more harm to Diana than anyone, but Harry's not going after them, is he? Unlike William and Charles Spencer, who have taken action, and who have asked for the Bashir interview never to be aired again. Harry's not bothered though, he'll use this bastards's fraudulently induced interview on screen, sullying his mother's memory, if it puts money in his pocket.

Apparently before he met Meghan he spent most of his day playing video games.

Which members of the RF ?

@sunnywithtsunamis

“The situation wasn't tenable for Harry and Meghan, so they got out. Good decision I think. No-one won. Things just changed.”

What situation ? The fact that they weren’t allowed to monetise their titles ? The fact that they had to walk behind William and Catherine ?

The royal family who were in cahoots with the media who then to disguise their involvement allowed themselves to be hacked even more than Harry the target. Yeah that makes sense. The lengths of conspiracy theorists have to go to

The situation? Not feeling comfortable in the UK or being part of the royal family. Not wanting to bring up children in that environment. Edward VIII wasn't too comfortable with it either, which was why he abdicated. It's not too much of a stretch to realise that some people just can't, or won't, hack certain things. The alternative may be tricky, but sometimes you've just got to go.

True.

Sometimes you just can't work in the family business, so you have to leave.

You don't expect to keep the company car and expense account.

The only ones proven to be in cahoots with the media are Harry and Meghan, and they have been since day 1.

Harry pulls out the big guns to try to get negative commentary rescinded, The chair of Sentebale getting pressured by Harry to make a statement about the bad press Meghan got at the Polo. India Hicks removing the Brooke Shields segment on her podcast where she called Meghan 'precious. Some Rookie on People magazine accidentally reporting Harry was their 'source', quickly changed but on the internet forever. Meghan using Omid Scobie as her spokesperson, Meghan using her friends to give scoops. Not forgetting Netflix, Oprah, BBC.

So many instances of Harry and Meghan using the media for their own benefit.