How can Harry be so deluded?

[HiRen]

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

I think he truly believes his mother was murdered and therefor he trusts no one, however Megan is the worst person for him as shes a user and raging narcasist and will tell him everything he believes it true, he lost his mum when he was 7 and hes stuck at that age which is sad,

He was nearly 13 when his mum died, not 7.

It must be exhausting being Harry. Constantly feeling aggrieved about something. What a waste of his life.

I'm not sure what 'fame' has to do with passport applications.

But you can't be serious in thinking these two are among the most famous children in the world. The huge majority of the world is entirely unaware of Archie, Lili and the back of their heads.

Yeah imagine you take over your family business and suddenly they children of your brother, (who left the business, slagged it off, slagged you off, called your wife a racist because of some shite to do with a lipgloss and then suggested that you wanted to have him killed and that the business killed his mother) rock up having just randomly decided that they want to work for you. Don’t bloody think so.

Trivial perhaps, but jesus he's the image of his father. What happened to Diana's genes?

I can’t get over how people keep harping on about him. Well other than the fact he’s click bait and a money making machine for the British media. He left 5 years ago and they just can’t let him go

You do know Harry leaked this story to the 'British media'.

Yes?

@Twatalert unfortunately it's not that easy is it.

He was raised in the royal family his life was about it and William the heir etc..
It's not so easy to drop or be disengaged from.
I was raised a Catholic and even though I don't believe in god it's hard to shake off the traditions and feelings and I was raised by a relaxed loose catholic and non religious father.

How we are raised has essentially brain washed us

Posted on wrong thread, sorry.

And... I think it's perfectly normal for someone whose experienced family trauma to want to change their names.

He looks the spitting image of Charles in the photo in the OP. It baffles me that anyone thinks he isn't his son when he looks so much like Charles (mixed with a bit of the late Duke of Edinburgh)

Harry was 12 when he lost his Mum.

I have no idea about the technicalities of passport issuing (but if a letter from solicitors solved a 6 month problem in a matter of days, then that does sound like a strategic delay, not a logistical delay)

But if they'd decided they didn't like/want Mountbatten-Windsor, or Sussex, or whatever royal name the kids currently have/had, surely the most logical and easily actioned alternative would be Markle?

He can change his name to whatever the hell he likes.

However, there is a legal process to go through. Harry didn't go through it, and was trying to use the invalid name of 'Sussex' on the children's passports.

His 'family trauma' doesn't seem to prevent him using the royal titles from said family however. Nor from insisting his children have them.

They are far from being among the most famous children in the world. Nobody has seen their faces so how would anyone recognise them?

Trust me, I get it. I'm estranged from my family and live a completely different life with different beliefs, which took years to establish. Harry is rich. He can afford therapy until the cows come home. He could explore a different life and explore who he really is but whilst taking time out. He's so privileged, when normal people don't get that. They have to spend a big proportion of their income on therapy, stay employed and change the course of their lives as if it's some sort of sidekick. It isn't easy no, but it needs willingness which I'm not sure he has.

Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help

You are not a spoiled brat for not wanting to undertake any role someone else has decided for you before you are born. We as a nation perhaps are a nation of brats for expecting people born into a role to do our bidding.

My Mum was born into a family where she was expected to live with her Morher and serve her mother her whole life. She ran away to escape her fate. Was my Mother a ‘spoilt brat’ not understanding her serving role? I am sure Granny thought so. No same person would though. You might, given your stated view that others can be born to serve you.

I suspect the stress of their endeavours to
bring the Rpyals down completely will strain their marriage so much eventually, that Meghan will feel he is cramping her style and she’s not moving forward with her ambitions. Very sad situation and they really are a sad case. It’s the children I feel for. I hate to say “unhinged” but sometimes these two just show all the characteristic’s of being just that unfortunately. I’m so sad about it all and her jealous of Kate has caused all this toxicity

It’s HM Passport Office. I think they’ll spot royal offspring without any need for global recognition.

I honestly don't think he's capable of gainful employment. He can put his name to things and turn up at PR events but he doesn't have an iota of business acumen.

Nor does he understand anything about what it's like to be a person with no money and disabilities, suffering terrible hardship.

His pity me, victimhood obsessions wears thinner than his wife's ankles.

I do actually feel bad for him but why not go to Uni and try and study and actually gain some kind of profession? It's not like he's not got the time to do it.

He must just sit there doing fuck all pretty much the whole time. Seething about how he's so desperately hard done by.

Nauseating really when there's so much serious trouble in the world.

The HMPO guidance for recording titles on passports is actually available online and seems pretty prescriptive. It does sound like Harry was trying to do something outside of the guidance, which then caused delays.

My husband is NC with his dad and considered changing his surname at one point. Because his dad's a massive cunt too.

Okay, he didn't go to uni, but people leaving the army use their skills elsewhere all the time and earn a living. He doesn't need to earn a living, but probably lives beyond his means in that if he earnt no more money he'd probably run out before he does on his current lifestyle. He's not super rich in California and probably spends more for upkeep that any ROI from his money.

It doesn't matter. He seems to have no real purpose. I have sympathy for a working class kid trying to make it in the world to something completely different from where it came from . Harry needs to do the same but the other way around. Like so many he needs to learn a different way of existing that's different from his upbringing but he could do it all in comfort as opposed to the working class kid wondering how to navigate uni and the job market.

And I always thought it was up to the monarch who the working members are, wouldn't it be up to William then George as to whether they could be considered such, not a choice for Lilibet and Archie themselves? And well I don't see either of them seeing a need for Harry's children to be working royals....
Even if they were to be considered, would it be the same situation all over again, 2 innocents unaware of the culture and traditions of GB and its RF, having to learn to courtesy and do as is expected of them etc. Apparently Harry did warn or instruct his wife about any of it so the children will be in the same position and the problem would start all over again