Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF

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Okay. So first of all thanks to everyone on the last thread for a really civilised discussion about Harry and his security. The Telegraph has an exclusive article where Harry claims that his security was removed to “trap” him in the RF. I’m really sorry but for some reason I am unable to archive Telegraph articles at the moment. Could anyone help?

I can’t read it as it is behind a paywall .

@Mylovelygreendress Try this link:

https://archive.ph/DCzBc

The basic problem with what Liz Jones says is her assertion that Harry and his family will visit more if he has security. They won’t

Trust me lovely , a mercy for you!
ill thought out drivel , barely concealed favouritism, obvious victim blaming.
all wrapped up as an apparent attempt at an article by a so called journalist.

BTW, that is an incrediblely sexist article. Liz Jones complains that Catherine isn't glamorous in her photos with the Scouts. Maybe SHE needs some time out in nature.

I've been asking myself what evidence we have against H and how much of the animosity against him is based on speculation rather than evidence. The evidence lies in 'Spare', the Oprah interview, and 'The me you can't see' interview. So in the end, it's down to the betrayal of his family. That's enough, and cannot be seen in a good light. People talk about a return to the UK for him but I don't see how that's possible, however worried his family might be for him. Soon, the evidence may extend to include financial impropriety (Sentebale, Invictus, Archewell) and failure as a trustee to act on accusations of illegality (African Parks ). In the light of all this, would MM have the guts to abandon him, knowing he would have nowhere to go? Or does narcissism override feelings of compassion?

Liz Jones doing one of the Mail's occasional reverse ferrets.

(I've read her (so called) diary for decades and am convinced she is now making the whole thing up)

Apologies. I meant to share this link <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.04.16-115822/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14617859/LIZ-JONES-Prince-Harry-NOT-blame-ongoing-family-feud-Charles-William.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.04.16-115822/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14617859/LIZ-JONES-Prince-Harry-NOT-blame-ongoing-family-feud-Charles-William.html

Don’t forget that Netflix documentary!!
afterall when the stakes are this high we should hear it from them!!! 🙄🙄
that really finished me off for Harry , he sat there and let her mock his own grandmother our queen!
then let’s not forget the disinformation about the commonwealth, sorry empire 2.0 .
and the last nail in the coffin?
the disgusting editing of the queen’s speech to make it sound more colonial!
so slyly done that non U.K. people and younger viewers wouldn’t know it had happened! 😡

Of course! The Netflix documentary. The editing of the Queen's speech has passed me by. Can you say more?

Thank you . I don’t rate Liz Jones at the best of times but this is a new low . Does she not realise that any communication between KC or W with Harry would be reported and/ or twisted ?

It was her famous speech when she became queen!
they deliberately removed the part where she pledged to always serve us the people and the glorious empire ( I’m paraphrasing from memory, so do forgive slight errors!)

so it ended up her saying only the glorious empire!

Dreadful. This, and M's mocking curtsey, make a mockery of H's protestations of love and M's of respect. H must know that QEII saw the Commonwealth as the legacy of her rule.

Indeed it was done deliberately and nefariously to bolster their racist claims and show the U.K. ( and commonwealth) in an extremely bad light !
they not only portrayed the royal family as racist they smeared the whole U.K. as well !
so as far as I’m concerned he can fuck right off to the far side of fuck and stay there! 😡

Liz Jones is a tool.

I've been quite surprised by how personally I have taken their trashing of the UK, although I feel I am being ridiculous. My anger about them throwing back the welcome they received in our faces, and the millions of public money spent on their wedding, is still flickering.

And then they named their daughter after this "racist" woman they tormented in her final years, rather than after her black grandmother. And Harry wonders why nobody will speak to him.

Ham''s latest video. Totally on point and very funny:

Harry's only friends are the chickens.

Edited for typos.

Me too , me too!

Soon, the evidence may extend to include financial impropriety (Sentebale, Invictus, Archewell) and failure as a trustee to act on accusations of illegality (African Parks )

Good point. I am sure the RF are still waiting to assess the full extent of the damage PH has achieved and they will not be interested in having this clusterfu*k of issues unravelling on their patch.

I know that some on this thread favour 'never complain, never explain' and I understand why, and at the same time wonder if there is a line that Harry could cross which would lead to action - removal of titles etc.

I think that would be a last resort but surely they are skating on very thin ice at this point?

The removal of the titles would probably tip Harry and Meghan right over the edge - their vengeance would know no bounds! They would go nuclear!

I never knew they bastardised the late Queen's speech!! Lowest of the low!!! OMG!

I didn’t until much later!!
it was pointed out to me , afterall who would believe Netflix would stoop so low ?
especially as during the crown season one they actually dramatised the original one!

It's really delicate for the family and courtiers, I imagine. If they were to go nuclear, who knows what other dirty laundry may be aired in public? On the other hand, the risk of doing nothing is the loss of respect. The titles obviously mean a lot to them but in reality It's not actually harmful for them to have them.