Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF

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Okay. So first of all thanks to everyone on the last thread for a really civilised discussion about Harry and his security. The Telegraph has an exclusive article where Harry claims that his security was removed to “trap” him in the RF. I’m really sorry but for some reason I am unable to archive Telegraph articles at the moment. Could anyone help?

If she has changed the trust it would probably come with a tell anyone about this and you won't get it until retirement clause

She doesn’t want to acknowledge that she owes so much to anyone. She genuinely thinks she is better than them and they should be glad she’s associated with them, not the other way round. That’s what I believe anyway.

That's definitely how it comes across. Not once have either of them acknowledged their tremendous privilege and good fortune, courtesy of being part of the RF.

Prince Harry requested police protection after threats from Al Qaeda https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14624651/Prince-Harry-hits-police-protection-Megxit-inadequate-inappropriate-ineffective-claiming-ploy-trap-UK.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
"Driven by exposing injustice"
😂

How is Harry more informed about credible threats to him than the experts with access to the best intelligence?

And what does he do in California, the place where he and his family actually live?

Agree. That article doesn't go into the source of the threat or whether any evidence was provided to the court.

And, even if he did get a real threat, engraved on a rocket and lobbed into his back garden in Cali - while he chooses to live in Cali, that is America's law-and-order issue, not the British tax payer's.

Yes, I was about to say, I imagine RAVEC had heard about those threats from Al Quaeda and therefore they would have been taken into account in assessing Harry’s needs.

Risk analysis isn’t binary. You need to consider both the existence of a risk AND the likelihood of it occurring before you then consider what irrigation steps are needed. Harry seems to be focussing solely on the first part of the assessment.

And obviously this has nothing to do with his ridiculous boast about killing 25 Taliban “chess pieces “ !
seems Harry wants protection from the consequences of his own actions… as ever.

I like the idea of “irrigating” Harry. Cool him off a bit 😂

Ha! Thanks you spellcheck - should have been mitigation, not irrigation!

Doesn't he just. Makes you wonder why he made that claim 🤔

That's because he doesn't understand. He just has the personal outrage/victim approach on default.

"Inadequate-inappropriate-ineffective"
sounds like Harry summing himself up there!

Seriously, the protection he has been given is clearly not inadequate or ineffective as he has visited the UK and returned safely home.
Inappropriate - how? Reflecting his lowered status since he walked away from being a working member of the RF.

Yes, you'll often hear people say that he and Meghan need round the clock security because of 'threats' on social media. The reality is anyone can make a 'threat'. Only the experts can decide if said 'threat' has a real chance of materialising, or if it's just some nutter talking shyte on the internet.

His obsession with RAVEC really seems to be rooted in his bitterness towards the 'institution' and Britain in general. He's hardly ever in Britain and when he is he's without his family. I don't buy the idea that he doesn't bring the kids because of a lack of 'security', for reasons which we've already discussed.

So he and his family spend almost all their time in a massive house which must be a nightmare to secure. Unlike in Britain, he doesn't benefit from a high level government body which is continually monitoring the intelligence and will provide police protection if deemed necessary. He just has private bodyguards with no access to intelligence and even if armed, have no special privileges and have to abide by the relevant laws in that state. He also travels to countries like Nigeria, Ukraine and Colombia, leaving his children at home without either of their parents.

But the problem is RAVEC?

But he is so brave to visit UK, with the security being so "inadequate"

This is the point. On one of these threads a Sussex fan insisted that they needed top level security because of the criticism on Mumsnet! That actually made me laugh 🤣!! As if the moderate discussions on here would ever give cause for concern!

Haha all us evil mumsnetterrs lining up to write terrible things about him, how does he sleep at night?!🤣

Well those DM comments were scathing!

First he gives his body count in Spare. Now he cuts funds from a Muslim charity in the US and they publicly tell him off.

Has it ever occurred to him that his mouth, not RAVEC, is the problem?

I don’t think he sees much apart from his own desires which he sees as due to him by virtue of his birth. He blames everyone else for his own shortcomings.

In his head, he should be allowed to tell his truth (because it’s a unique truth what with him being Diana’s son and uniquely persecuted, and he’s a dragon slayer and he’s telling his side of the story because the narrative portrayed by the media is so wholly untruthful). It’s someone else’s - his dad’s, the govt’s, whoever, he’s not bothered, just someone else because he can’t afford to do it himself and doesn’t have the intel anyway - to do the necessary to keep him safe after he tells his truth. He’s uniquely endangered, you see. Unlike all the thousands of troops who actually lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan. No, he warrants more protection as a single individual because he’s more unique and special and persecuted and at risk than anyone else on the planet other than his brother and his dad.

I’d say he actually thinks/believes he’s more at risk than Charles and William. Considering he boasted the number of his taliban kills, he may be right. But that’s on him, no one else.

I agree. He actually seems to think that he's the most vulnerable person there is..

Apparently, the statement that he issued after the private bit of the court hearing was agreed upon by both sides. One part that amused me was that he (Harry) argued that “protection from MPS (Met) officers has advantages that cannot be provided by private security firms”. Well no shit, Sherlock. Least of all of course, that he doesn’t have to pay for it. I am still amazed that he cannot fathom that leaving the country meant no more Met protection for him. What a tool

The bizarre thing is (until.you realise this is an ego issue not a security issue) he manages to cope perfectly well without - presumably - state security and access to intelligence in the USA, and while on holiday in various sunny climes. He manages with private security.

But the UK is so uniquely dangerous he must have 24/7 close protection officers and access to intelligence. At a moments notice, should he choose to.pop by. Even though he can have private security here, and additional security provided as necessary if he gives notice.