Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF

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Okay. So first of all thanks to everyone on the last thread for a really civilised discussion about Harry and his security. The Telegraph has an exclusive article where Harry claims that his security was removed to “trap” him in the RF. I’m really sorry but for some reason I am unable to archive Telegraph articles at the moment. Could anyone help?

A Regent does have to be someone in the line of succession. And unfortunately that rules out Catherine, and puts Harry and then Andrew next in the queue. I think a ruling that Anne or Edward would do it instead would be very welcome. Harry has to be 'domiciled' here which possibly, and unpleasantly, gives a reason why he nominally hangs onto Frogmore.

All this said, though, it's still all extremely unlikely. George is 11 now so it's only 7 years till there would be no need.

A Regent does have to be someone in the line of succession.

It may now, but not historically.

I can almost guarantee with Harry then Andrew next in line the government would be updating the 1937 Regency Act faster than you can say The King is Dead.

Anything happens to William while Charles is King but before George is 18, they will amend the Regency Act to either include the non-succession parent of the heir so that it can be Catherine OR they will change it to name an alternative royal in the line of succession chosen by Parliament - so that they can choose Anne/Edward.

And if William is King before George is 18 I imagine they will also amend the Regency Act - unless it's super close to his birthday.

There was precedent in 1953 when you had

QE2 on the throne

1. Prince Charles 6
2. Princess Anne 4
3. Princess Margaret.

The 1953 Regency Act designated Prince Philip, who was not in line to the throne to become Regent and the Act expired once the provision was no longer necessary i.e. when Charles came of age. A new Regency Act could designate Catherine as Regent.

Hence my position. Even if H comes out with 20 million bots, 20 People articles and blitzes every newspaper and morning show on the planet complaining that it is not fair/racism/Camilla's fault/William's fault/corgis fault, it is KC3's duty to act for the Crown, while grey rocking the irritant to the Crown.

And tidying up the regency situation is one of several items that should be resolved with a sense of urgency.

Something else for him to whine about - "my family won't give me bigly and important jobs"

It was presumably the Conservative government that applied? I wonder if they like Royal drama because it is useful camouflage for what they want to get up to (passing unpopular laws, etc). Expensive but useful.

They may even have calculated that Labour would be in power and would field criticism re waste of public funds and so on. So it could be made to work for them regardless.

The RF has survived many embarrassing revelations over the years (Tampongate!) and H has lost a lot of credibility since Spare1 so I don't think anything else he comes up with would rock the boat. As said by pp upthread, we've all got a lot more stuff to worry about atm so it would only have an amusement factor anyway. As to appointing a regent - I'm sure that's already been discussed, decided on and given a seal of approval. It won't be made public unless it becomes necessary - why upset the spoilt child now any more than they have to? Another decision to add to his victim status!

There may even be a regency council set up
Catherine, Anne and Edward. C having responsibility for education, Anne and Edward for monarchial duties.

Given Harry’s paranoia about security I wonder why it was leaked to People that he , M and the DC have gone on a “ sun- soaked ” holiday ? After all I am pretty sure someone with good IT skills would be able to check private jets going out of the area ?

She wasn't alone on Oprah though - at least not entirely, though she managed to get plenty of her own version in before Harry "appeared"
I'd have thought he had the sense to realise this really wasn't a good idea and a tongue in his head to say so, but apparently not

What a god-awful mess ...

I think the grey rock/enough rope is working. H and M's lies and lack of talent are being exposed solely through their own actions

Edited to add indeed, @StartupRepair. Ghastly as the media can be they can hardly be blamed for H&M's own words and actions
It also serves to explain why we no longer get the race baiting "Well it's obvious why you really don't like her ...", but then that was always ridiculous

It would be a tough task to establish flights from legit open sources unless you had a tip off to date of travel and/or somebody (?paps) came up with an image of the aircraft.

There are a hell of a lot of biz jets that operate into/out off Santa Barbera every day going to sunny places various.

I can't see a "Spare 2 - American Riveria Pilchard" having any particularly juicy details. The publishers would have absolutely ensured that every single bit of high level juicy detail would have been in V.1.

They wouldn't hold "the best bits" back for vol II (& if in the unlikely event they had, vol II would have been released almost immediately when the buzz was still high after vol I). We all knew Spare would sell phenomenally well, but as predicted, fact checkers burst the bubble. PRH would have been well aware of that, they would know they needed to get vol II out before the hype died down. Spare 2 - Flower Sprinkles Get In My Eye would be a laughing stock now, they won't chance it.

So - that was it. That was the best worst Harry could come up with. Sausages, single bedrooms in Castles, dog bowls, broken necklaces, lip gloss, bridesmaid dresses, frozen todgers. That's the extent of Harry's Horrible Life (TM).

I thought it wasn't safe for him to go anywhere? Except Colombia and Nigeria and Ukraine?

But Rory only has ten bathrooms in his house in Florida.........

10 bathrooms - not enough for all of Harry's shit !

He (or Meghan) leaks everything they do to get a tabloid story. The photos must have come from them or someone they tipped off to be so close.

He even leaked the "mercy dash" to see Charles last year the day before.

That's presumably why M & H have 16 at their Montecito mansion!

From the DM :
Far from wilting, Dr Chandauka appeared on TV and accused Harry of ‘harassment and bullying at scale’ for releasing his statement ‘without informing me or my country directors or my executive director’. She continued: ‘Can you imagine what that attack has done for me and the 540 individuals in the Sentebale organisations and their family?’
As if to confirm her fears, I can disclose that one of Sentebale’s new trustees – appointed on March 25 – has now also resigned.
The Charity Commission, which is conducting an investigation into Sentebale, continues to list Margaret Ikpoh as a trustee, as does Sentebale’s own website, saying she is ‘passionate about advancing equity, diversity, and inclusion’ and is ‘a dynamic educator and speaker’.
But, in a statement, Sentebale tells me that Dr Ikpoh has indeed called it a day.
Noting that it is ‘a particularly difficult time to have joined the organisation’, it says that Dr Ikpoh has ‘chosen to step down out of respect for her family and other professional commitments’, which Sentebale says it ‘fully understands, respects and supports’, adding: ‘We deeply appreciate her interest in Sentebale over a long period of time and look forward to staying in touch’.
Too late for Meghan to intercede as conciliator, I suppose?

@Profhilodisaster check out @Serenster' post today on the Sentebale thread

Good luck with tthat, Mylovelygreendress ... have you any idea how many private jets movements there are around the Santa Barbara area?

I can disclose that one of Sentebale’s new trustees – appointed on March 25 – has now also resigned

Edited to add very sensible of her, though TBH I'm surprised she stepped in at all at such a time
Nobody needs this sort of toxicity, but I'd be amazed if Harry cared a jot. It all seems to be "yesterday's interest" and with everything else he has going on I'd expect scant interest

In this instance, only his very die hard Sussex Squad members would support him!
He is unlikely to come anywhere near any kind of important decision making, and that includes what flavour soup to have.

She has recently amended one of her birth stories though so they might pen a "setting the record straight" spare and add new details about them being forced out of the UK cut off financially and nearly dieing in childbirth plus added pictures of the near catastrophic car chase and the attack in the court room!

It almost writes itself

I don't think the publishers - or H - would have pulled any juicy stories from Spare unless they needed to. So nothing much to worry about from Spare 2, unless there is some radical new evidence that tips the legal scales. If there was I expect we would have already heard about it.

I think the RF are doing the right thing. No need to retaliate. Let them show themselves in their true light.

This thread is rapidly filling up. Before it does, thanks for all the interesting points and hopefully we will soon be able to discuss the Appeal Court’s judgment 😆

There's a story running on that bastion of authoritative journalism, GeoTV, that H is so determined to get Pa to listen to him and intercede over his security that he is proposing to turn up at Buckingham Palace and demand to see him. That will work out very well for H as the IPP status Pa has as head of state will mean his access to Pa will be blocked by his 24 hour, armed at all times security. There's irony there but H is too dim to see it. As Pa is less likely to be at Buckingham Palace than at Clarence House, Windsor Castle, Sandringham or Birkhall, H will not even see the whisk of Pa's well-heeled brogue scarpering down the corridor as H's ginger beard zooms into view.

On Twitter was X, meanwhile, he has apparently been summoned by Auntie Anne. I wonder, if this is true, whether she has been selected as the person least likely to stand any nonsense from him. And will she be explaining to him that a constitutional monarch has no power over Ravec? And telling him that she has changed the rules of the trust so the second tranche of his inheritance from Gan Gan won't reach him until he is 45 rather than 40 (I can't quite believe this is true or we would have heard about it by now - 'Sources close to Prince Harry say his family is leaving him penniless, forcing him to take up employment as a coke merchant to support his wife and two princelets').

You can see how the entitled, none-too-bright spare ends up being a national security risk. Andrew's links with China look even more dodgy now we know about the shenanigans at the steel plant in Scunthorpe.

Edited for typos