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Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF

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smilesy · 11/04/2025 19:04

Okay. So first of all thanks to everyone on the last thread for a really civilised discussion about Harry and his security. The Telegraph has an exclusive article where Harry claims that his security was removed to “trap” him in the RF. I’m really sorry but for some reason I am unable to archive Telegraph articles at the moment. Could anyone help?

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smilesy · 14/04/2025 09:06

Lunde · 14/04/2025 08:46

The whole thing was very weird because NYPD sent 2 letters that contradicted each other. It was suspected that Harry applied pressure for the second letter as it was suddenly sent during a security court case.

The whole thing was very odd though. From the footage I saw at the time it looked annoying but not dangerous (a pap on a bicycle taking pictures) - well apart from Harry's security team trying to block intersections in NY (think they were spoken to by police). The biggest "danger" was them changing vehicles into an unvetted taxi. They were in a 4 car motorcade so why not call police or drive to a police station or a hotel if they felt under threat?

I think Harry's paranoia is such that he perceives every other car on the road as a "threat" and "chasing him" - we saw that when he claimed to have been "chased by paps" at a Well Child event in Kew gardens - yet the videos show no such thing - we there might have been an Uber Eats driver on the road at the same time. Harry needs MH help more than security.

Being more cynical, I think the reasons behind the near catastrophic car chase were to try and prove that they need security, not because of paranoia, but because a)they want their security provided for free and b) they want to be as important as William and his family. I’ve said before, Harry just doesn’t get that being the second son of the king doesn’t make you constitutionally important once you start slipping down the line of succession. And that is what decides your level of security.
There was no danger in the car chase, whatever letter the NYPD issued to make Harry stop badgering them. The similarities to what happened to Diana in Paris (albeit this was at slow speed with no one ever in any real peril and no drunk driver) are too close to be coincidence - the paps and the not wearing seatbelts - and also the convenient timing around Harry’s first court hearing with regard to security

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Profhilodisaster · 14/04/2025 09:14

Like I've said before Harry is so stupid, doesn't he realise all of this is documented on the internet , we can see how he contradicts himself and how things are not as he reports.

JSMill · 14/04/2025 09:26

MayaKovskaya · 14/04/2025 08:51

Good points, @Lunde , especially your last paragraph. There was a strange scene in their Netflix series when H&M were being driven somewhere. Meghan kept pointing out other vehicles on the road and Harry became increasingly fractious and irritable. None of those vehicles contained paps or anyone intent on harm. It was very odd.

Yes I remember that. At the time, I thought it showed H to be quite fragile mentally but now I wonder if it was part of their campaign to get their security paid for.

MayaKovskaya · 14/04/2025 09:29

JSMill · 14/04/2025 09:26

Yes I remember that. At the time, I thought it showed H to be quite fragile mentally but now I wonder if it was part of their campaign to get their security paid for.

Could be. I remember there was someone on a motorbike and he got quite alarmed, but surely he must be used to traffic, living in California?

smilesy · 14/04/2025 09:30

Profhilodisaster · 14/04/2025 09:14

Like I've said before Harry is so stupid, doesn't he realise all of this is documented on the internet , we can see how he contradicts himself and how things are not as he reports.

That doesn’t seem to matter to him though. He is, unfortunately so invested in the “my truth” bollocks that he doesn’t seem to care if he contradicts himself 🤷‍♀️

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BunnyLake · 14/04/2025 09:49

He says they were forced to leave (far too bright and shiny for the Royals) but they were also trapped to make them stay. This man does not know his arse from his elbow. Must be chaos living in his mind.

bluegreygreen · 14/04/2025 09:52

Maybe NYPD really mean the Sussex team's driving was dangerous, just not bad enough for arrests?

APlateOfMixedFanciesAndANicePotOfTea · 14/04/2025 09:57

Profhilodisaster · 14/04/2025 02:04

I don't know if this is legitimate, I can't find Yulia Svyrydenko on Instagram (I'm not very au fait with the platform though)

I'm not sure what Sophie Wessex will think of Harry's visit. Plus Sophie was actually in the heart of war torn Kyiv.
www.gbnews.com/royal/sophie-wessex-royal-family-secret-weapon-ukraine-visit

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 10:10

Lunde · 13/04/2025 23:44

No idea whether its true but there were rumours a few years ago that she used her stylist friends like Jessica Mulroney to sell off most of the stuff she billed Charles for and she pocketed the money.

OMG! 😧
If that’s true, then she’s done what I thought would be impossible and gone down even further in my estimations.

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 10:16

Profhilodisaster · 14/04/2025 02:04

I don't know if this is legitimate, I can't find Yulia Svyrydenko on Instagram (I'm not very au fait with the platform though)

I’ve just seen this on X.
Unbelievably, Meghan has put it up on her instagram, not relating it to Harry with a photo of him, (which there are many to choose from!) but next to recent photos of her!! Beyond weird, creepy and self absorbed.

Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF
smilesy · 14/04/2025 10:25

I don’t have a problem with Harry going to Ukraine. God knows they need to keep drawing as much attention as possible to the horrendous situation there. The problem I have is with Harry’s motivation for going there. It isn’t to highlight what’s going on in Ukraine, it’s purely self promotion when taken with the fact that he is touring for security. As for Meghan posting that on instagram (especially as it begins with the words ”your Royal Highness”, without specifying that it refers to Harry), words fail me

grammar

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Lifestooshort71 · 14/04/2025 10:35

M encourages H's paranoia re car chases and paps. If only he'd married someone more grounded, someone less interested in celebrity status, someone who didn't see every H outburst as a positive.....

notimagain · 14/04/2025 10:49

Hope that bread referred to in that X upthread was declared on entry into the US..😯

ajandjjmum · 14/04/2025 10:49

I wonder if Jessica Mulroney will spill the beans one day - she must know some real secrets!

Profhilodisaster · 14/04/2025 10:52

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 10:16

I’ve just seen this on X.
Unbelievably, Meghan has put it up on her instagram, not relating it to Harry with a photo of him, (which there are many to choose from!) but next to recent photos of her!! Beyond weird, creepy and self absorbed.

She has absolutely no shame, the visit was nothing to do with her! Jesus ! Where's their comms woman, surely she can see this isn't a good look for Meghan, making it all about her again.

Mylovelygreendress · 14/04/2025 11:01

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 10:16

I’ve just seen this on X.
Unbelievably, Meghan has put it up on her instagram, not relating it to Harry with a photo of him, (which there are many to choose from!) but next to recent photos of her!! Beyond weird, creepy and self absorbed.

The photo of Meghan painting ( an upside down) Ukrainian flag was taken several years ago . I think it was at the start of the conflict .
Does anyone know when the letter was written ?

Mylovelygreendress · 14/04/2025 11:05

Sorry , just read about the Easter bread . Do the letter is to H ?

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 11:15

Yes @Mylovelygreendress the letter is to Harry. That’s the point, Meghan has made it all about her.
The letter was written following Harry’s visit last week.

JSMill · 14/04/2025 11:35

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 11:15

Yes @Mylovelygreendress the letter is to Harry. That’s the point, Meghan has made it all about her.
The letter was written following Harry’s visit last week.

I can’t understand why some people still defend her when she does stuff like this.

Choux · 14/04/2025 11:37

MummyJ12 · 14/04/2025 10:16

I’ve just seen this on X.
Unbelievably, Meghan has put it up on her instagram, not relating it to Harry with a photo of him, (which there are many to choose from!) but next to recent photos of her!! Beyond weird, creepy and self absorbed.

Megan implying the letter is to her by using photos of her rather than Harry is another sign that she is all about building herself as the Sussex brand. He is just the one who facilitated her getting the title and the royal kids. She has probably already realised he is a liability from a work and PR perspective. (I imagine the stuff in Spare put a few nails in the marital coffin too eg how he lost his virginity).

She is the only one who can earn the $$$ for the family coffers. So she goes all out to monetise every opportunity and wring the most PR possible out of everything. They brought it on themselves by leaving the RF in such a disingenuous public way but my god he must be exhausting to live with and she must feel a heavy burden on her shoulders as everyone watches their releases underperform. Their earning power is slowly deflating with every attempt. I imagine it’s all such a let down from the hopes she had on her wedding day.

TheAutumnCrow · 14/04/2025 11:46

The Halo Trust are currently working in Ukraine, and have been for a while. Their work is absolutely critical. I've not seen or heard a word from Meg (or Harry) about it's work, the bravery of its people, or the fact that they are a charity and thus permanently having to fundraise as well as carrying out its core work of landmine removal, training local teams, and providing other crucial services.

The HALO Trust

Our mission is to protect lives & restore livelihoods. By clearing landmines & other explosives we help countries recover after conflict. Find out more.

https://www.halotrust.org/

MayaKovskaya · 14/04/2025 12:08

I'm watching Rory McIlroy on the news and wondering if Meghan regrets the one that got away.....

Mylovelygreendress · 14/04/2025 12:13

MayaKovskaya · 14/04/2025 12:08

I'm watching Rory McIlroy on the news and wondering if Meghan regrets the one that got away.....

Pretty sure Rory will have no regrets !

MayaKovskaya · 14/04/2025 12:54

Mylovelygreendress · 14/04/2025 12:13

Pretty sure Rory will have no regrets !

😂😂😂

TheAutumnCrow · 14/04/2025 13:06

Hazeby · 11/04/2025 19:48

It’s slightly smacks of his security being removed as some sort of retaliation or punishment. I really hope that’s not the case.

Anyone who believes that his security was 'removed' and 'as some sort of retaliation or punishment' is as crackers as he is.

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