Harry and RAVEC - claims he was trapped by RF

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Okay. So first of all thanks to everyone on the last thread for a really civilised discussion about Harry and his security. The Telegraph has an exclusive article where Harry claims that his security was removed to “trap” him in the RF. I’m really sorry but for some reason I am unable to archive Telegraph articles at the moment. Could anyone help?

@serensterwill definitely know, but speaking to a national newspaper about evidence from an in camera hearing which you attended, and in advance of a verdict, sounds like contempt of court to me.

Me too IdaGlossop!

Three things they could do. My bleat of the week: put out feelers for him to be made a vexatious litigant, so we hear far less of him and less public money is spent on his gripes. Remove the Sussex titles on the basis that they have been used for commercial purposes, against the Sandringham Summit agreement. Remove him as a Councillor of State. Persuade the Invictus board to refer itself to the Charity Commission over financial propriety, or persuade an external interested party to do so.

@Serenster, what do you think the possible consequences are for Harry if he's found to be in contempt of court? Or would they be unlikely to pursue this?

Oh, Python! 😀

What an ego she must have! With zero talent to back it up.

Meghan got away with lying to the court so I expect Harry will as well🙄

@IdaGlossop I don’t think that KC will do anything, he doesn’t want to. PW might in the future though.

I don’t think anything needs to be done at the moment. Harry is too far away from the throne and I think that they are making themselves more and more ridiculous. Removing titles etc will only make them squawk louder about all the perceived injustices heaped on them. I think grey rocking is the best course. I agree that things might change when William becomes
king, especially if Harry starts up his whole “look at how important I am” thing all
over again

I’m not sure about Charles not doing anything, I think he may well address the H&M problem (at some point) himself. It would seem a bit unfair to pass the problem of your wayward younger son down to your older son to deal with. Best Charles addresses it if there is to be even the tiniest chance that something between the two brothers could be salvaged in the future.

Well, it’s what I’d do but 🤷‍♀️

I agree with this, Charles should definitely be the one to take action, as his relationship with Harry is unlikely to be mended during his reign.

Charles leaving the Harry issue for William to deal with would be really unfair and probably mean that the two of them never speak again, which isn’t what Charles would plan for as a father.

I'm sure that William and Charles have had many discussions about this.

He thinks he'd be bugged. I bet he'd have to give up his tech so he couldn't film and record, and be searched for Mike's. A bit humiliating for the son of a king.

I'm not sure that anything needs to be done at all, just let them get on with it and be the victims of their own downfall. I also think that most sensible people don't think it reflects badly on KC and W (apart from maybe KC and the palace covering up for Harry's past cock ups ) I don't think anyone blames the RF for the mess H&M have got themselves into.
Taking titles away will just give them more victim ammunition.

I agree KC doesn't want to do anything but the courtiers and PW may push him. The risk of doing nothing is that the monarchy itself starts to look ridiculous. Sentebale and Invictus after all have their roots in the Royal family.

Well just whilst I'm on a roll Chelsea Register Office has a side entrance. So he could have gone in and out through that so as not to be standing on the King's road. "Please arrive via the Chelsea Manor Street entrance when you arrive and report to our reception desk and security staff. Your guests can proceed directly to the Ceremony Waiting Area upstairs on the ceremonies floor." Sadly no parking but I'm sure the bespoke security could have sorted that out. 😁

The ongoing post-service security for PMs is not to stop the individual from getting killed; it is more to ensure that they are not kidnapped and.then forced to reveal state secrets ( that are still relevant). Where they live ( and whether they are called Truss or not) is irrelevant.
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No idea whether its true but there were rumours a few years ago that she used her stylist friends like Jessica Mulroney to sell off most of the stuff she billed Charles for and she pocketed the money.

I really cannot see why armed bodyguards would be needed at a wedding. He has a security team that can go through arrangements and even if they can't carry guns they can be at the venue.

It's a bit creepy that he is stalking the Wales family

But he's always turned them down

• Frogmore cottage at Windsor
• St James Palace
• Buckingham Palace

Harry is really like the toddler stamping his food in a tantrum

Yeah that white Dior tent monstrosity that she wore in Morocco has probably been flogged on vinted

https://pagesix.com/2024/02/28/royal-family/prince-harry-loses-legal-bid-for-police-protection-in-uk-as-nypd-admits-their-paparazzi-chase-was-dangerous/

here’s the NYPD saying it was dangerous

Yeah he appealed it (he needs to relax with all these lawsuits lol)

https://pagesix.com/2024/02/28/royal-family/prince-harry-loses-legal-bid-for-police-protection-in-uk-as-nypd-admits-their-paparazzi-chase-was-dangerous/

I’m surprised to be honest, I thought it all sounded very melodramatic and exaggerated but clearly the police there agree with him that it was in fact dangerous 🤷‍♀️

I wonder if he wrote to them telling them that they must issue a statement saying it was dangerous .