All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew?

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Thread after thread of pulling apart Harry and Meghan. 0.1% discussing what Andrew did?

What is going on with MN?

At last - we agree !!

@BigWillyLittleTodger”Seeing as everyone is so keen to stay on topic, what has William and Kate’s “leave entitlement” got to do with Prince Andrew?”

Fair point!

@NewAgeNewMe I've pre-ordered on the Kindle. I found it last week when looking up his book on Guy Burgess. Ordered now payment will be taken on the publication date , 14th August . I agree about Lownie , his research is excellent and even though his has had FOI requests turned down I'm confident he will have found as much evidence as he can. I don't think it will make comfortable reading for either of them.

Seeing as everyone is so keen to stay on topic, what has William and Kate’s “leave entitlement” got to do with Prince Andrew?

threads meander. I think I mentioned it. mainly because if the "working" royals were busier, surely there would be less interest in the non working ones.

Even if all the working royals were ribbon cutting 365 days per year it’s just royals royalling and getting on with the job, it wouldn’t stop the interest in the non working royals who provide endless entertainment with tell all books, interviews , podcasts, court cases etc. I don’t think the royal workload or lack of (depending on your opinion) is the reason people discuss the shenanigans of Harry and Meghan.

And I only asked about W&C’s leave entitlement because somebody said that public servants get the same about of leave regardless of the effort they put into their job, and I wondered what W&C’s was.

They have all the private school holidays 'off' but even term time only, their 'engagements' work out, generously to about 2 or 3 days 'work' a week, between them ( including things like phone calls, going to sporting events etc). Kate has been on sick leave, but William hasnt. They are apparently doing tons of stuff we don't know about behind the scenes, but once the old Royals die off, William and Kate will be all the RF have left. And ' behind the scenes' won't matter if people barely see any of them. I doubt they will be able to get their kids to do more than they themselves have been doing.

They have all the private school holidays 'off'

They do and in total that alone adds up to around five months give or take.

Factor in phone calls engagements taking up half a standard working week on average and it does seem to leave them an awful lot of lovely me-time.

Still. We're told Willy is on WhatsApp 24/7 making sure the NHS, prison service and charities are all up to date with paying him his market rate rent keeping an eye on his duchy so I expect that takes it out of him.

I think you're being very generous there with your 2 or 3 days work a week. Neither of them have done that, even before Kate's health problems. The list of engagements that are published from time to time show that.
I would imagine the more elderly royal rellies get pretty pissed off with their laziness

Well it must be onerous for William counting all of the earnings from the Duchy of Cornwall remember, which amounts to £20 million annually. I imagine he will be studying hard how to pay as little tax as possible too! 😁

not long till this thread ends, I really hope there is a second series.
I can start on if the op doesn't come back,

Has Andrew done something new ?

Not that I know of. But read the thread title.
it’s why considering what he has done . Why do H&M get more abuse ( my take on the title)
it’s an interesting conversation.

But @Samcro as has been said umpteen times, 99% of people ( 1% being family) agree that Andrew is a disgrace. Whereas H and M are a divisive couple and are almost permanently in the news.

Well.... 70% of York residents want to strip him of his title. That's pretty damning and just in the news now.

And here is an article about Andrew Lownie's book.

It's rather refreshing to have a thread on the royal board that isn't just meghan and harry endless repetitive unpleasant posts. There are many threads on that all the time.

No one is obliged to read or post on a thread if they don't want to.

https://www.thebookseller.com/rights/no-holds-barred-prince-andrew-and-fergie-biography-to-be-published-by-william-collins

I’d say 75 percent of this thread has been talking about stuff other than Andrew though - mostly K&W and H&M.

I dunno, put in an FOI if you're concerned?

You're the one talking about it - why don't you look?

For once, I agree with you!

Catch a grip, he won't be doing that personally!

If I wasn't stuck with PAYE, I'd like to pay as little tax as possible too.

It's really obvious actually. There's nothing interesting really about Andrew. He's a pretty repulsive figure. Harry and Meghan put themselves out there every day. Far more to talk about!

Taken from the article I linked

The book is full of "extraordinary revelations" and reveals the extent to which Andrew and Fergie’s lives are still entwined. Lownie draws on four years of research, numerous FOI requests and interviews with more than 100 people who have never spoken before. He traces the lives of the the Duke and his ex-wife through their childhoods, courtship, marriage, divorce, careers and royal and charitable activities.
The synopsis continues: "Investigating the reality of their relationship, it assesses Andrew’s Falklands record, his business dealings and reveals new details of how the couple have been able to financially sustain their extravagant lifestyles. It also delves deeper into his links with Jeffrey Epstein, which began earlier, continued longer and were much more frequent than reported."

I will be very interested to read about how they sustain their extravagent lifestyles and of course, the links with Epstein which were prolific by both of them.

Edited to say: this was meant to be a response to mainecooncatonahottinroof but quote function didn’t work:

I disagree very much with this.

I absolutely love the “nothing to see, move along” narrative from royalists about Andrew!

There is still plenty to discover about Andrew
and his Chinese “friend”! And also where he is getting his current funding from? How is he affording to live in Royal Lodge?

Also, the AL book will be out soon!

Imagine the furore there would have been from all of the truly gruesome royal reporters like Richard Eden (what a fine outstanding chap he is not) and all of the ardent monarchists on Mumsnet, if Harry had allowed a foreign national, probably a spy, who was deemed to be a potential threat to national security, to get close to BP or Windsor Castle!

if Harry had allowed a foreign national, probably a spy, who was deemed to be a potential threat to national security, to get close to BP or Windsor Castle!

Well, exactly. Not forgetting Epstein and Maxwell who went to Balmoral, Sandringham and Buckingham Palace... posed, took pictures, attended parties etc.

And let's not forget Andrew's aide Hampshire talked of how they sneaked in the chinese spy (this was in court papers so not made up)

But it's always, move along folks, no one likes him so we don't need to talk about Andrew.

I don’t like the Sussexes based on their behaviour. I dislike Andrew a whole lot more and cannot wait for the Lownie book.

I hope it crucifies the Yorks and lays everything stinking thing they’ve done in the open.

You can dislike both you see. But then I’m not a royalist but a constitutional monarchist - completely different.