Do you think as Camilla as the queen ?

[Rainbow321]

Hear me out , I have no problem with Camilla and never thought I would never see her as ( way back when ) as Charles wife when they married , my opinion,was they married and can rightly call herself as Duchess.
However , what I don't understand that when Queen Elizabeth was alive , her husband , Prince Phillip was always known as just that and never seen / addressed as King . Why is Camilla our queen when Phillip was never our king ? I'm confused .

King outranks Queen, and as Philip wasn't the monarch, could not outrank his wife.

Same as Queen Victoria / Prince Albert.

Yes I think of her as the Queen.

Because King is a higher position than Queen, but Phillip had married in so was lower status than Queen Elizabeth.

I agree though that I don't think of Camilla as "The Queen", but that may be as only two years have passed since the death of Queen Elizabeth.

I don't instinctively. I saw a headline that said queen the other day and thought of our late Queen Elizabeth II and assumed it was an old article resurfacing before I actually thought of Camilla.

I do still get confused when they call her the

queen 🤣

Just had this very conversation with DH, so I would be curious to know the answer. I wondered if King outranks Queen, so a King can have a Queen but a Queen cannot be outranked by her husband so he has to have a lesser title.

Wasn't it Charles who specifically asked for her to be called Queen rather than Consort?

It's part of the historic, sexist order of doing things.
The wife of a Knight has a courtesy title of Lady, but the husband of a Dame gets no courtesy title

I'm starting to get used to it now, but it was weird to start with and I always thought they were referring to QEII.

Nope

Yep, first poster explains it.

No I don't. I always do a double take when I see headlines about "the Queen"

a King can have a Queen but a Queen cannot be outranked by her husband so he has to have a lesser title. Yes.

I don't think of Camilla as the Queen. King's consort. I don't really care though.
He's Prince Charles to me.

It's just the way it pans out. The Queen Mother, Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, etc were all Queen Consorts but known as Queen [name].

She is the Queen Consort. The "consort" of the King.
The late Queen was Queen Regnant - she reigned.
The Queen Mother was a Queen Consort.
Prince Albert was a Prince Consort because Victoria was Queen Regnant.
I'm surprised people still don't understand this.

She is Queen consort. Just as the Queen Mother was Queen consort as she was married to the King. She was referred to as Queen Elizabeth though (hence introducing the term Queen Mother to distinguish her from her daughter Queen Elizabeth)

I'll never think of her as the Queen! I pledged my life to one Queen and it wasn't her.

She doesn't even fit in the "heirs and successors" line of my pledge so 🤷🏼‍♀️.

If I'm honest I do have to think a little each time as I think of QE2 as the queen

No, I always think they mean Her Maj.

For example, Peggy Woolley from The Archers (June Spence) died recently and there were multiple articles commenting on what a big fan the Queen was, and how she’d hosted a reception for her.

Then I clicked they meant the Queen Consort, not the real Queen, which made more sense. Camilla appeared in The Archers, so I knew she was a fan.

The Duke of Edinburgh was in Yorkshire recently, and it took me ages to work out who the DofE could be (it’s Edward).

No, had the headline pop up about the Queen having a chest infection and my immediate thought was that it was a glitch as the Queen had already died.

I'm the same to be honest. It always takes my brain a moment to catch up when I hear "The Queen" and it's not Elizabeth II. She was always there. It's strange that she's not any more. Still.

No I don’t.

No, I understand why she is referred to as the queen , but I still picture Elizabeth 11 when I hear The Queen.

Same as it confuses me that the Queen Mother was called the Queen ( although that was before my time it is living memory for some people) .

Yes she's the Queen. Like every other Queen Consort.

Pp have already explained, a man who marries a Queen Regnant is never called King because he would then outrank her.

The Queen automatically summons the former queen in my mind.

I will get used to it eventually.

Ditto the other redistributed titles.