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[OneHeartySnail]

To continue the discussion!

No- it is not offered by "the Palace". They have no say because they're not the security experts.
It is the Home Office who determine the level of security.
That's Harry's beef! Look up RAVEC.
He wants continuous armed close protection wherever he is or wherever he goes in the UK. It has been deemed unnecessary. This is taxpayers money of course.

The King certainly has armed security officers at all times. However, as a non working royal who lives in California, Harry is no longer eligible for armed security, even if RAVEC have said they will keep his security needs under review and provided whatever security is deemed necessary.

Harry can bring his own private 'security team' wherever he wants, and at his own expense. However, they will not be allowed to carry arms outside America, and even there will be subject to federal and state law.

The US president brings his own security. He does have Met security as well. I have a friend in special protection who looked after him, together with his own Security, at the Coronation. The president’s security are armed but subject to UK law. That’s why they have Met minders too

typo

I've noticed that too @Vespanest , and I did wonder why it was kicking back up again (with Bouzy leading the charge again).

The German doc coming up would be a possible reason.

I'm inclined to think the German doc isn't going to be that unflattering to them tbh, probably just mildly critical of the way they're running their foundations etc, with a bit of mild gossip thrown in.

The issue for H&M is that they are far too controlling - they seem to have a visceral need to be in total control of the narrative. If they just realised no one on earth can do that they'd probably be far happier.

It's appalling what's swirling around the TwiX sewer at the moment regarding W&C, with Rose H being dragged into things again. I've seen the SS referred to as the Sewer Squad and it's an apt moniker.

Yes, I know.
I was talking about Harry, vis a vis the Royal Protection Squad and RAVEC.
About which Harry seems to be wilfully ignorant.

Ah ok. But you quoted my post where I said the US president brings his own security which made it sound like you disagreed with that. Sorry if that isn’t the case

@DelectableMe I'm not sure Harry is completely ignorant of the details, but IMO it's more he thinks he should get his own way anyway. He's special you see.

I think that's most likely the case, @MrsFinkelstein ! The case of Harry v the Home Office over this is fascinating, and his attitude extraordinary - he's really equivalent security wise to the King, the US President and M. Macron?! He also was so furious about the last ruling that he demanded to know who had made the decision "I want the name!" .

I recently had a tour of Highgrove gardens (tickets won in a raffle!).
There were armed gun toting police on the driveway to the parking area and stood in front of the house as we passed through the terrace.

Pretty sure The King wasn't in residence at the time. Maybe they all pack up and go home after the tours have finished leaving just a skeleton security but I think I can confirm he has armed protection.

Gardens were lovely by the way. A very enjoyable day and best raffle prize I've ever had!

Of course the Kng has armed protection. It's the Royal Protection Squad. They guard him and the Queen, the PoW and PssoW, and other royals on official duties.
None of the royals make decisions about this security themselves, though.

The more fervent Harry supporters on these threads like to claim that Harry doesn't get protection and that the RF have stopped it. Neither point is true.

Re Windsor Castle - if that had been granted then I betcha Meghan would have stayed there en route to Nigeria (instead of at airport). It would have top secret, except for the pap walk down Windsor high street… They need to keep that royal connection going.

The 'grabbing' Harry's arm incident shows how inept his advisors or whoever arranged the tour are. I'm sure royal tours are arranged to the second and any participation in activities be it dancing or playing a bit of sport would have been choreographed, so that awkward incidents like this don't happen. It was all a bit champagne taste with beer money.

I just watched the video of Harry being led by the arm. I think he handled that well for someone who has probably never been grabbed and dragged like that before. It must have been a bit startling. Where were his protection officerS?

@AliceOlive they were probably looking after M , it seemed to be her tour after all.
Looks like we will need a new thread

Who's the journalist?

My understanding is that he wants IPP status so that he can have taxpayer provided security wherever he goes .
Harry himself said he assured Meghan he would never have his security removed .

Certainly not doing their job!

Or maybe security is just not as much of a priority as Harry has made it out to be?

@OneHeartySnail looks like we will need a new thread :)

Yeah, it sounds like more is going to come out about this trip.

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