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H’s old friends from Club H days, where are they?

Did his old friends not try to get H to slow down ? As did William . Also , did I not read that Meghan tore a strip off some of them for their views ? First ( and probably only) time she met them .,

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain one dog came with & her/their defence they had to ‘get the diaries out’ in order to have any chance of making the relationship work. Both had a slot for the early Africa trip to spend time & stars aligned.

That said I do wonder if some early control on her part in the interview as she’s holding this hand & covering it with the other, someone said she was squeezing it to control his answers & if he went ‘off script’. I thought that was batshit at time but had a look again.

All wonderful & welcoming including W, K, C & Queen. So why the shift in narrative & dramatic turnabout? Her animal magic was evident, H says the corgis adored her, seals & dogs! Apparently they hated H. He is clearly madly, madly in love, infatuated (?) in that early interview. In her defence it’s true dogs can often spot a good ‘un. I also agree very unlikely anything really dodgy in M’s past.

NB: is it really true she redesigned her engagement ring immediately as seemed to love H’s design & thoughtfulness in this. She loves yellow gold he said so picked that, etc.

Her previous husband has stayed completely silent on their relationship despite the fact that the end seemed less than amicable (wedding ring sent back in the post and allegations she stole the juicer!!), it leads me to think he is either a really decent guy or the royal family paid him off in the beginning...

Why do people come out with this 'RF paid him off' stuff? I mean, where's their leverage if he takes the money and decides that there are after all beans to spill about his marriage? he's American, he has no loyalty to the RF and no obligation to take any payoff and remain shtum.

I don't talk about my ex either. Some people don't want to spill their emotional guts all over the place.

@Mylovelygreendress there was some beef on a shooting (?) weekend, clash of cultures I expect and probably not the best first (?) meet. London pub or similar would have been much better. Posh boys/men en masse can be obnoxious at worst & likely worse at anything like a shooting weekend.

I tend to agree with you, I don't believe the 'yacht girl' stories nor the other ridiculous theories about her life prior to meeting H.

I am inclined to think it will probably be their business, charitable and financial activities coming under scrutiny, along with their PR, AfricanParks, Sentebale and now their connections to Nigerian fraudsters in the name of Invictus, along with their links to the Sussex Squad.

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain agree & he hardly needs the money. Happy, decent people wish others well & go ‘high’ even if feel very let down personally.

Yes. They're not going to get into the tawdry business of offering 'hush money' to anyone who had anything to do with members of the family. And plenty of people have been spoken about Meghan to journalists, so there wouldn't be much point in 'paying off' Trevor.

She has been with Harry for over 7 years now. There are a lot of people who would pay good money for the inside story on some lurid scandal about her, if such a scandal existed.

Agree, and I've more ammunition in my grievance locker than 'stole the juicer'! wishing him well might have been a step too far at the time, though.

I suspect it was because his security team couldn't be accommodated in a Royal residence. They are armed, and there would be issues with non disclosure etc I suspect. Also if it's true Harry asked for Camilla not to be present when he last saw his father, he might have insisted Camilla not be staying at the same time. He is very demanding.

His 'security team' are just private citizens. They would not have been permitted to bring their weapons on an international plane, let alone bring them into a foreign jurisdiction.

I agree that they would not have been welcome in a royal palace, armed or not.

What happens when the President visits then? I assume his security are armed?

I don’t believe the “yacht girl” stories either but I do believe Meghan is extremely controlling and that, combined with Harry’s paranoia about the media, has brought out the worst in both of them.

Anyone else finding it quite ironic that Harold's managed to get himself involved with an alleged fraudster after all the posturing over Pa's cash for honours mate?

Prince Harry voiced ‘concerns’ over motives of Saudi donor to Charles’s foundation (archive.ph)

You're not comparing Harry to the President surely?

Heads of State travel with their own, often armed, security or are provided with such by the host country. But Harry is just a private citizen who is not eligible for armed security. His 'security team' are just private citizens who have no more rights or privileges than anyone else. They certainly would not be allowed to transport firearms on a commercial flight. In fact, I'm not sure anyone would be.

I just assumed they would be armed, as presumably that's what they rely on in the US.

But like I say, his 'security team' are just ordinary citizens with no special rights or privileges even in America. How could they be allowed to stroll around London with guns?

@Lifesabeachbaby this is part of Harry's ongoing disagreement with the Home Office.
Security is provided, by the taxpayer, for Heads of State and other people of note.
It is decided on a case by case basis. The UK provides this. There are no gun toting security guards brought in.
Harry wants armed protection in the UK whatever the circumstances. The Home Office RAVEC disagree. His is a case by case issue. He is protected by the UK police specialist protection officers. He is perfectly safe in a royal residence.

That is not allowed. Can you imagine?
No, it doesn't operate that way.

I agree both of her ex's have remained admirably very quiet.

But don't forget that the minute she started dating Harry they would know she had a big powerhouse in the RF behind her, I bet neither of them would want to take that on, so remaining quiet was the best thing to do...

Her ex-husband is in the entertainment industry and Meghan has curated a very influential circle of friends in that arena, he would likely jeopardise his own career if he spoke about their relationship .

Her ex boyfriend is a celebrity chef in Toronto with his restaurants being the 'place to be seen'. Meghan was/is best friends with the wife of the Prime minister, and was/is friends with the wife of the Mulroneys, another powerful influential family.

Neither of them have said a word about their relationships with Meghan, neither negative nor positive.

Neither of them have said a word about their relationships with Meghan, neither negative nor positive

It's rather more likely that for their own personal reasons they wish to put a brief marriage to her behind them, rather than worry about her influence making sure that they'll never work again in their industries.

I'm not sure.

I don't think Meghan has 'influential friends' in Hollywood at all, and none would care if someone chose to speak out against her.

I think both her exes have put that period of their life behind them. It's not like either of them they were with Meghan for a long time or have children with her. Both Cory and Trevor are in seemingly stable relationships and have children with their new partners. What would be the purpose of dredging up their brief time with Meghan? Not to mention, they'd have the Sussex squad to deal with. And who would want that?

Even the president’s security are subject to British gun laws. They may carry firearms but have to abide by UK rules of engagement and are not immune from prosecution. Private security are unlikely to be allowed to carry weapons

It's a special branch of the UK police, trained with weapons and close protection.
This is to prevent any VIP claiming they need protection, and bringing weapons on to the streets of the UK.
It's all determined on a case by case basis, but IPP get this as a matter of course. Harry wants to have IPP status, but doesn't at the moment.

If he was staying with Charles he wouldn't have needed his own security in residence with him. The security around the King is far and above the standard of Harry's private security. And the King's security would be armed.

Yes I know that the security offered b y the Palace would have been fine, but only when he was actually staying there. The rest of the time he would have needed his own security team who went with him to Nigeria. The King's security team isn't armed is it? I realise how woefully ignorant I am about this stuff.