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Ah but do they listen?

Dipping back to the German documentary, I think it's really good that an (apparently) professional journalist is pulling this together, and that it's not being done in Britain, where the media would be accused of racial bias against Meghan. If the same accusations fly, at least they can't blame the British press this time. Presumably the German team will have no loyalty to the RF, so will be happy to be completely open with what they find.

I saw a clip yesterday discussing this - according to the journalists Harry did request to stay at a Royal Residence, Charles apparently agreed and offered Harry to stay with him (that way any prior engagements would have minimal impact) and they could spend time privately.

It was just a brief clip I saw, and I'm not sure what the sources for it were. I'll have a look for it again.

I'm unsure why Harry wouldn't take up such an offer, if it was made.

Here it is.

I'm inclined to give weight to this story as it's The Times and Roya Nikkah (she's a very credible journalist IMO).

It was probably a huge effort to come across as the happy cheeky Harry persona as that definitely doesn’t seem to be how he really is.

Being "on" and fully engaged at social events is hugely tiring, especially when you know everyone is focused on you.

72hrs of being "on" almost 24/7 would be very tough, and Harry is out of practice.

He used to undertake a lot of engagements with W and C which probably helped as he wasn’t the sole focus . Plus he was able to be the cheeky chap as W and C are a bit more formal .,

Yes, W&C helped and supported him a lot. I remember the launch of "Heads Together" and how positive that was.

Probably because Netflix weren’t allowed

Being frightened to say/do the wrong thing would be understandable given his wife's record of discarding those who no longer suit, especially if those of us who believe Harry was only ever an "opportunity" are correct

There's so much we can't know about what goes on behind the scenes, but if there really is no way back with the family and he lost Meghan too he'd have very little left - and that's without the question of how he'd see the children

We can all hope they're happy in the life they've chosen, but that doesn't automatically make it so when things start to unravel

personally hoping the documentary is a bit of a damp squib just for Catherine sake. There has been a real push on social media against her for the last three days. Any negativity of Harry or Meghan always results in Catherine getting the trolling. If the documentary is before she returns or is bad for Harry and Meghan then the abuse for Catherine will be off the scale.

There's also the question of how the squad might respond to even a suggestion of an unravelling.

True enough, MrsD, though the closest I ever get to reading their ravings is the clips folk post on here

While I could be completely wrong I've never really seen how it matters though; the deranged are always among us and I'd hope that most with sense can see it for exactly what it is, remembering that this sort of thing only thrives if folk give it oxygen

To return to previous comments , I think the RF is very aware of Harry’s fragile state and have asked the media to be careful what it publishes about Meghan’s past.
I have no real evidence for this just a gut feeling plus hints from my journalist relative.

That wouldn't surprise me at all, Mylovelygreendress, but unfortunately they can't control foreign media and in today's internet world anything that's reported elsewhere instantly becomes global

Though no admirer of Harry I honestly wonder how this is all going to end for him, and as said hoping he's happy doesn't make it so

I think that's why they don't want to push him too much, or get too harsh. They know that he has massive problems and needs careful handling.

What on God's green earth are they trolling Kate for? The poor woman has been out of the public eye for nearly 6 months enduring a major health crisis. The Sussex Squad are the lowest of the low and it's time their honeys called them out on their appalling behaviour, enacted in their names.

Some of the current stuff on Twitter is absolutely disgusting

I saw the engagement video again recently, H looks to be on cloud 9. Compare & contrast. He seems to have had a very different view of his family who’d been wonderful & welcoming to M & M’s father happily on side though not met in person yet.

M says the relationship was organic & spontaneous & all evolved naturally & rapidly, each having no idea who the other was.

It reminds me of someone I know who was persuaded to see his immediate family as an evil by his partner. He wrote NC letters. His parents had the usual human flaws but were decent & trying to do their best.

H’s old friends from Club H days, where are they? School buddies? Do they think he’s leading his best life in Montecito with the woman he adores? I hope so.

M says the relationship was organic & spontaneous & all evolved naturally & rapidly, each having no idea who the other was

Didn't she dump her dog and her apartment and fly over to London? I may be doing her an injustice, but at the time I saw that as an attempt to force his hand and make him declare the relationship. And as for having no idea who he was, my only response to that is 'yeah, right.' This is a woman who planned her pre-Haz career like it was the Normandy landings.

Personally I don't think there are any deep dark secrets in Meghan's 'past'. If there were, they would surely have come to light back when she was merely Harry's latest girlfriend. Not just the British press would have been happy to pay good money for any dirt on her.

She seems to have had a fairly 'ordinary' life in Toronto. Long days filming 'Suits' and a bit of blogging and product promotion on the side. I really don't think there are any great scandals waiting to be uncovered.

H’s old friends from Club H days, where are they? School buddies?

This is a very good point, Harry (and William) had a long standing close knit, loyal and very discreet group of friends, even if they did appear to be your typical rich Hooray Henry.

Since meeting Meghan that has all been supplanted with a group of very recent friends who are all in the same realm, influencers at heart, even if some of them are very wealthy business people, it all appears to be so transactional and superficial. Harry is living the life Meghan wanted and which he has afforded her, access to Oprah, billionaires, but nothing very substantial at all, even the Nigeria trip was just meeting with another extremely wealthy and privileged circle of Africans.

I can understand why the RF are treading very carefully around Harry.

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Personally I don't think there are any deep dark secrets in Meghan's 'past'. If there were, they would surely have come to light back when she was merely Harry's latest girlfriend. Not just the British press would have been happy to pay good money for any dirt on her.

There have been 'Yacht Girl' comments in the past so it could be related to this. Although I agree that it probably would have come out earlier.

Her previous husband has stayed completely silent on their relationship despite the fact that the end seemed less than amicable (wedding ring sent back in the post and allegations she stole the juicer!!), it leads me to think he is either a really decent guy or the royal family paid him off in the beginning...

If she had been a 'yacht girl' then loads of people would have to know about it. There's no way at least one of them wouldn't have spoken to the press who would have been waving big money at them. And while I don't like Meghan, there is absolutely no evidence for the claim. It seems like a misogynistic slur to me.

And the 'royal family' aren't going to go around "paying off" people in California! If she were that unsuitable then they wouldn't have given her such a high profile role immediately. And Meghan's ex husband is a reasonably successful producer and is now married to a woman from a very wealthy family. He has plenty of money. Meghan was part of his life for a fairly short time so chances are he just wants to put it behind him.

And as for having no idea who he was, my only response to that is 'yeah, right.'

friends she had at the time have said she was very interested in W&C's wedding. If she watched any of that, she can't possibly not have known who Harry was, or been so ignorant of the RF as she claimed.