american riviera orchard - what was that all about then?

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It seems to have gone the same way as their Sussex Royal site. I don't know much about social media or PR, but this all seems pretty odd and ineffectual.

Classic paranoia.

Yes thinking about it how on Earth could he do the Africa documentary now, but it is Harry we are talking about and he feels no responsibility for anything, nothing is his issue or problem, it’s is always someone else’s so it wouldn’t surprise me if he sees no issue with going ahead, I doubt very much he has given the Baka people a second thought.

I have often wondered if Harry and Meghan will be exposed as the Sussex Squad commanders in chief, I did read that they phoned up the ‘leader’ to thank them for their support and of course their buddy Bouzy on their Netflix documentary appears to be heavily involved in trying to bring William and Catherine down, if it walks like a duck……. If I was William I would be paying good money investigating this and if Harry does have burner phones and secret accounts coordinating these attacks then I truly hope he is exposed in all his glory for the world to see.

God, it’s shocking when you see it written down; and completely believable sadly.

the war behind the scenes is horrific, and it seems to be one sided. It always has been, the royals cracking on and harry and Megan and their supporters waging a war.

The thing is it is not working, the more the,royals get unfairly attacked the more popular they are,

if Harry and Megan don’t denounce, then they look like they support. They are already in very bad shape. This could be the end of them.

its bloody sick though,

the war behind the scenes is horrific, and it seems to be one sided. It always has been, the royals cracking on and harry and Megan and their supporters waging a war

I find it quite funny. One side is desperately trying everything to get a reaction and the other side is serenely ignoring any and every provocation.

I have just read through this report, they sound like a terrorist organisation and Bouzy, H&M’s mate appears to be heavily involved. I thought they were just some crazy fans but this is seriously dangerous stuff, why has Sarah Dutan and Bouzy not been arrested? I can’t believe they can do all that and not face criminal charges or prison. I’m utterly shocked, the poor royal family and particularly William and Kate really are victims of a serious coordinated dangerous hate campaign and Meghan and Harry spout how terrible social media is, yet they sit by and either are letting this happen without condemning them, or are possibly involved with the squad themselves.

the war behind the scenes is horrific, and it seems to be one sided. It always has been, the royals cracking on and harry and Megan and their supporters waging a war

But what, exactly, is the end game here? is it that the British people rise up and demand the abolition of the monarchy, or what? because as far as I can see a) that would be wholly counterproductive for a couple who still trade on their royal title and b) the more the RF are attacked the more popular they seem to be.

The "never complain, never explain" stance is serving the RF very well. They are simply not moved by the storming on SM.

I've lost count of how many times people have said "surely they must react to this" or "if they just do (whatever) it'll all go away" or something else like that, all in an attempt to suck them in. Lots of accusations of appalling PR, but they've come out of this we...

And absolutely none of the accusations of Palaces briefing against each other have ever been evidenced - and by that I don't mean bang on court-level sort of evidence, just some examples of negative stories which were quite possibly planted by officials.

I think the endgame is to attempt to 'win' popularity, by making the RF appear dull, violent, unkind, murderous, racist etc etc whilst H &M appear wonderfully wholesome and glamorous. It's 14 year old girl mentality.

It’s odd how people say any negative story about H&M must have come from the inside and included acquiescence at the highest levels.

But H&M are simultaneously not responsible for what is being done but Omid Scobie, Chris Bouzy, Sarah Data and the entire Sussex Squad who are even today out in full force sending around links to donate to a hospital because Meghan read a book there.

Agree it’s wholly backfiring.

honesltly I don’t think tne folks doing it are smart enough to have an end goal. It’s spite if harry and Megan are involved, revenge, and for those actually doing it, then why does anyone troll, bully, attack on line? Because they enjoy it. It makes them feel better about themselves. Who knows. I certainly can’t work out what drives them.

I think the ‘endgame’ is to destroy William and Kate mentally and to make their lives as hard as possible, maybe to drive them into a position where they don’t want a part of royal life anymore.

Simple payback for not taking Meghan shopping that day. That is enough.

Ironically the SS aren’t anti-monarchy at all, just anti-monarchy when Harry and Meghan aren’t in it - or, in fact, aren’t head of it.

Really the rank and file appear to be rather silly women displaying the same mad devotion as girls who would die for the Bay City Rollers. I also remember older girls (yes, I’m not that old!) who had Osmonds or Jackson 5 badges and would physically fight about it

Christopher Bouzy and the Sarah Data person are power trippers; they probably just enjoy manoeuvring their pawns.

I can’t honestly imagine Meghan and Harry paying these people to disrupt. I think they just don’t want to disown them as if the SS turn on them…

I think it’s probably just a fun game to Bouzy and Sarah Data. Compulsive past time. Easy for them. Like a video game.

It could be as simple as wanting to be thought to be right, wanting those apologies etc, wanting to get their side out there. It's very easy to get sucked in to the desire to control the narrative on SM, but that does not mean you are winning people over in RL.

We don't know that DW's account is fair, complete and representative. He does appear to show some evidence though.

And of course there's the possibility that at some point there was a 'genie out of the bottle' moment, when what was intended to be a little bit of dirty campaigning got out of the originators' control and became unstoppable. But it won't really be possible to emulate the RF, as they have explained a lot (and in great detail) themselves in books, interviews and documentaries and have taken legal actions too. I'm assuming they took advice before doing any of that, covering all eventualities, and that they are doing all this on purpose (even if bits of it go a bit wrong) with an aim in sight.

I think they were funded. Not necessarily paid. I can see it, and see it being an expense on the books of Archewell under PR.

We don't know that DW's account is fair, complete and representative. He does appear to show some evidence though.

It will be interesting to see if Harry, Meghan sue……….I suspect they wouldn’t dare and are actually shitting themselves.

Unfortunately, yes. She’s that immature.

I think it may stem from something deeper actually. And then also an ability to hold a grudge stronger and longer than most possess.

Well if it's a plan it's a daft one and as well thought out as all the rest of their projects.

The Scobie title actually made me laugh at the presumptuousness* that a book written by a pipsqueak like him would worry the RF for a minute, let alone bring down the monarchy.

*That's a word, isn't it? if not, it is now.