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american riviera orchard - what was that all about then?

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Tenmus · 29/03/2024 13:06

It seems to have gone the same way as their Sussex Royal site. I don't know much about social media or PR, but this all seems pretty odd and ineffectual.

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/04/2024 19:07

AliceOlive · 04/04/2024 18:58

I think it may stem from something deeper actually. And then also an ability to hold a grudge stronger and longer than most possess.

I agree, look how aghast she was when Maria Carey jokingly called her a diva, she couldn’t cope with what she saw as being criticised, she was incredulous that Maria could say that, she can’t cope with any negativity or rejection, not being invited to go shopping with Catherine would have been seen as a massive rejection and one that must be punished.

AliceOlive · 04/04/2024 19:17

Meghan probably would not have run into any situation in US that would have made her feel like such an outsider. Top schools, sorority, etc. It is a place where most doors are open for anyone with good looks, an education and decent social skills.

Her boyfriend Corey’s family adored her and that was probably her normal experience in meeting new people.

I think she took it very personally when things did not work the same way.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 04/04/2024 19:18

AliceOlive · 04/04/2024 18:45

Simple payback for not taking Meghan shopping that day. That is enough.

I agree. I work with someone like this. There is an ever-growing list of people she has a grudge against, often for 'offences' so minor the person who committed them is wholly unaware of what they have supposedly done. My colleague hates these individuals with a startling amount of venom and won't speak to them. And does so for years. I am pretty sure it must have a posh scientific name, other than 'crazy person'.

Runnerinthenight · 04/04/2024 19:18

Are they really that hate-filled and vengeful?! It's pretty shocking stuff!

Runnerinthenight · 04/04/2024 19:19

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 04/04/2024 19:18

I agree. I work with someone like this. There is an ever-growing list of people she has a grudge against, often for 'offences' so minor the person who committed them is wholly unaware of what they have supposedly done. My colleague hates these individuals with a startling amount of venom and won't speak to them. And does so for years. I am pretty sure it must have a posh scientific name, other than 'crazy person'.

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I used to work with someone like that. Total nutjob!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/04/2024 19:21

The Scobie title actually made me laugh at the presumptuousness that a book written by a pipsqueak like him would worry the RF for a minute, let alone bring down the monarchy.

Isn’t it a funny coincidence that the big grand reveal of the so called ‘royal racists’ was actually a bit of a damp squib, Catherine didn’t get hounded out of the Palace with pitchforks by an enraged public, and in fact pretty much no one believed it and she became more popular than ever, then the online campaign against her started, another attempt to bring her down and that eventually fell flat on its face as well, no wonder Harry and Meghan were blindsided by her cancer diagnosis it was all going so well until then but that announcement turned the tide. What campaign will the squad and their associates subject her to next? They really need to be investigated by the authorities.

Theraininspainfalls · 04/04/2024 19:47

All the while simpering about humanitarism and being anti bullying.

JSMill · 04/04/2024 19:58

@PigglyWigglyOhYeah my dm was like that. She was a great mum and grandmother but would always seek fault with other family members, friends and colleagues. She would stop talking to people and expect them to figure out their 'crime' and come and apologise for it. She had almost no friends as a result, which was sad.

OneHeartySnail · 04/04/2024 20:17

But surely this has been obvious from the start of 'Megxit'? That they didn't realise their popularity was based on Harry's position in the RF and the good PR that presented his sense of entitlement - the rules don't apply to him - as being a down to earth cheeky chappy.

That neither had any individual talent or standing to be an A lister?

Harry only ever had his position in the RF

Meghan was successful as a minor actress - far more than most aspiring actresses achieve, but far from A list and aging out without a breakthrough.

So how would breaking with the RF launch them jnto the big time, given it was their key to the big time?

MaisieMacabe · 04/04/2024 20:21

Because they believed it was about them personally, not the role.

shenandoahvalley · 04/04/2024 20:24

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 04/04/2024 18:41

I think the endgame is to attempt to 'win' popularity, by making the RF appear dull, violent, unkind, murderous, racist etc etc whilst H &M appear wonderfully wholesome and glamorous. It's 14 year old girl mentality.

I think it's a complex thing. There was a moment, right after their wedding, when H&M were the media's darling. Closing a car door was "ohmygawwwwd! She's amaaaaaazing!!", for example. And this was after months of "the new royal superstars", "Hollywood stardust!", "breath of fresh air" etc etc. Around the time Meghan wore a black trouser suit to the opening of something, William and Kate were nowhere to be seen (media-wise), and they looked frumpy and dowdy and boring and uninspiring next to the rockstar couple with the Victoria-Beckham-turquoise-dress-under-the-umbrella-backlit-shot new couple. They must have been totally high on all the adulation and attention.

Meanwhile, we now know that Meghan had kept Sunshine Sachs on the back burner, was negotiating a deal with Oprah and Netflix. They will have commanded big $$$$ for the latter precisely because of that extreme media attention. It was like the Diana/Martin Bashir interview all over again. The media attention fueled Netflix's and Oprah's eagerness to grab them while they were hot. And there was spotify and the book deal - all these things that I reckon made Sunshine Sachs the net winners in all this.

In it all, Meghan and Harry didn't actually do anything at all, except get married. They just existed. The media, the public, the royal family - they all created the excess hot air.

And I think Meghan and Harry have been chasing that high ever since. They undid it all by their own actions, sure, but when you've once been feted "the world's most beautiful woman" at a time when all you're doing is cutting ribbons and reading out speeches other people have written for you (after a career of serious hustling and grifting, which can't have been easy), is it any wonder that they still think they're amazing just for existing?

What they lack now, is the stalwart RF machine telling them at every turn that all this will blow over. That centuries of history has demonstrated that nothing lasts forever.

There were so many indicators for me of things going wrong, and there continue to be more and more of them, pointing to a dysfunctional relationship and very, very shaky foundations. I'll never forget Meghan turning up at the service in remembrance of Stephen Lawrence, late, in a sleeveless dress, disheveled hair (I think she thought it was California chic), smiling. I think she saw Doreen Lawrence, listened to the brief about who Stephen Lawrence was etc, and made assumptions. Meghan is a woman of no substance. Her radar is totally off. Harry, I think, does have a radar after a lifetime in the RF but it regularly goes haywire and/or he succumbs to competing personal needs.

OneHeartySnail · 04/04/2024 20:31

I do think - purely based on their actions and words, I don't know them - that they took hhe adulation as being due to them personally. So obviously, if you believe that, anything negative has to be the result of other people scheming against you.

As opposed to the positive press being due to being 'new'

And then the negative also being 'new'

So they are chasing the adulation as the norm, and anything negative as being the result of Evil Forces

MaisieMacabe · 04/04/2024 20:32

Harry kept telling her she was the new Diana.
She believed it.

OneHeartySnail · 04/04/2024 20:38

Or played it?

I have no idea whether she genuinely believes what she has said about her relevations about communing with Diana's grave, the diana xmas decoration etc

OneHeartySnail · 04/04/2024 20:40

Didn't they put a pregnancy test in a box with a twist of Diana's hair? May have got that wrong though

CathyorClaire · 04/04/2024 20:53

I'm so behind.

Can I buy a shatterproof overpriced beige dog bowl yet?

JaneJeffer · 04/04/2024 20:56

CathyorClaire · 04/04/2024 20:53

I'm so behind.

Can I buy a shatterproof overpriced beige dog bowl yet?

It's broken, sorry 😢

CathyorClaire · 04/04/2024 20:59

Oh.

All of the no doubt many hundreds them?

Runnerinthenight · 04/04/2024 21:01

Gosh, the Sussex fans have gone quiet...

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 04/04/2024 21:03

The Diana channelling is very, very strange. I don’t feel like it has been pulled up and discussed enough. For one thing it does suggest that Harry is being manipulated by someone- his therapist or his wife- into believing things about his mother that probably have no basis in fact. There seems to be some sort of recovered memory thing going on that seems deeply dodgy.

CathyorClaire · 04/04/2024 21:04

Runnerinthenight · 04/04/2024 21:01

Gosh, the Sussex fans have gone quiet...

Possibly engaged at a P Diddy Freakout ETA or Off. Whatever 🤓

Chupacabara · 04/04/2024 21:07

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CathyorClaire · 04/04/2024 21:10

The Diana channelling is very, very strange. I don’t feel like it has been pulled up and discussed enough.

Elizabeth Arden might beg to differ.

MaturingCheeseball · 04/04/2024 21:12

Surely he is the absolute worst advert for therapy - is he still the chimpo for BetterUp? I wouldn’t touch with a bargepole any mental health endeavour that was connected to someone for whom therapy seems to have made matters worse.

JJathome · 04/04/2024 21:13

shenandoahvalley · 04/04/2024 20:24

I think it's a complex thing. There was a moment, right after their wedding, when H&M were the media's darling. Closing a car door was "ohmygawwwwd! She's amaaaaaazing!!", for example. And this was after months of "the new royal superstars", "Hollywood stardust!", "breath of fresh air" etc etc. Around the time Meghan wore a black trouser suit to the opening of something, William and Kate were nowhere to be seen (media-wise), and they looked frumpy and dowdy and boring and uninspiring next to the rockstar couple with the Victoria-Beckham-turquoise-dress-under-the-umbrella-backlit-shot new couple. They must have been totally high on all the adulation and attention.

Meanwhile, we now know that Meghan had kept Sunshine Sachs on the back burner, was negotiating a deal with Oprah and Netflix. They will have commanded big $$$$ for the latter precisely because of that extreme media attention. It was like the Diana/Martin Bashir interview all over again. The media attention fueled Netflix's and Oprah's eagerness to grab them while they were hot. And there was spotify and the book deal - all these things that I reckon made Sunshine Sachs the net winners in all this.

In it all, Meghan and Harry didn't actually do anything at all, except get married. They just existed. The media, the public, the royal family - they all created the excess hot air.

And I think Meghan and Harry have been chasing that high ever since. They undid it all by their own actions, sure, but when you've once been feted "the world's most beautiful woman" at a time when all you're doing is cutting ribbons and reading out speeches other people have written for you (after a career of serious hustling and grifting, which can't have been easy), is it any wonder that they still think they're amazing just for existing?

What they lack now, is the stalwart RF machine telling them at every turn that all this will blow over. That centuries of history has demonstrated that nothing lasts forever.

There were so many indicators for me of things going wrong, and there continue to be more and more of them, pointing to a dysfunctional relationship and very, very shaky foundations. I'll never forget Meghan turning up at the service in remembrance of Stephen Lawrence, late, in a sleeveless dress, disheveled hair (I think she thought it was California chic), smiling. I think she saw Doreen Lawrence, listened to the brief about who Stephen Lawrence was etc, and made assumptions. Meghan is a woman of no substance. Her radar is totally off. Harry, I think, does have a radar after a lifetime in the RF but it regularly goes haywire and/or he succumbs to competing personal needs.

Great post. I agree, I also think they drank the cool aid, believed their own hype. And didn’t quite realise it wasn’t about them, it was about their position, what they could bring to thr royal family. The mirage.

they thought they were untouchable. The superstars. And they were. Until they did a runner, until they wrote a stupid statement about half in half out. Before they started selling stories for money, before they whinged for attention and cash. Complained about petty things. We had to buy a sofa. The cottage was too small. William pushed me. Kate didn’t want to share her lip gloss. And the bigging themselves up, my book is historic. She’s the new Diana,I’m taking on the press. They are jealous of her. And then the lies. We got married the night before. And the queen having to say, recollections may vary.

and now it’s clear they have no talent. No skills. That they can’t just out their names to things, and get paid millions. They need to work. Create content. Get the public on side. And they simply don’t understand how to do it, how they were on side , once. And now they are two of the most contentious, derided wanna be celebs.

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