Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

[Primrosecottagelover]

An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

@namechangeduetoimpatience

Because they aren't miracle workers. What is/was the RF trying to hide?

It's hardly a miracle worker to not have the glaring fitting gaffs shown. Really would fund it had to believe an expert did this.

Well clearly she's not capable. The errors are glaring

If it turns out they haven't got an ill woman recovering from.surgety to do it and some lackey has done it, they have trashed her reputation into the bargain. She is a patron of some photographers association, isnt she? So it's KP who have undermined her by doing such an amateurish job. Not people pointing out she couldn't have done it.

But photos are not usually edited to stand up to detailed analysis. They are edited to remove some wrinkles, take out red eye, tidy up hair - that kind of thing. And no one is trying to pass them off as unedited. So people are paid to do that kind of job. Editing a photo to make it look different and pass it off as unedited requires a very different level of rare skills.

One of the so-called royal experts (who are having a field day these days) Tina Brown was on CBS Mornings yesterday, saying basically what others are saying all over the internet:

sceptical that there's a single photo, it's most likely a composite of different photos taken at different times
doesn't buy that Kate edited the photo herself
the RF and KP are digging themselves deeper into a mess they've created
KP failed to scrutinise the pic before releasing it to news agencies
rather than stay silent and "hide", KP should organise a short zoom call with Kate, or just wave and smile from a car, to quell the conspiracy theories
apparently there's been a lot of staff turnover at KP
the wheels are coming off the KP PR operation, there's no PR strategy, they need a new PR person to come in

No sh*t Sherlock!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/photo-kate-middleton-photo-editing-scandal-royal-insider/

Unless the problem is not the PR people, but William. He would not be the first member of the Royal Family to hire people they don't listen to because they think they are somehow born with superior knowledge of everything. In that case, the personnel are simply sacking fodder when something goes wrong. William doesn't strike me as a person who likes to take advice from others.

This!

Isn't this photoshopped?

I cannot see her as editing it. So many edits for a high-profile photos means several hours or even days of work. If she has had abdominal surgery and is in recovery after being away from her home and kids for weeks then sitting at a computer doing that would not be priority. We should be asking why the blame was pinned on her?

She's well into recovery now and it's not too far off Easter.

It's not sending a misleading message though, which was the problem with the photo released from KP. It's not pretending that Harry also has a toddler that looks exactly like him. It's a picture of him as a child and an adult.

So why did 'she' feel the need to photoshop an entirely different head onto her body?

Bur she didn’t really that’s not quite what happened. Someone created a composite image, which means pixels are switched in from other photos. You take different parts from other photos to create a new image. No one knows if the other Images used were taken moments before or months before

of course it’s more likely it was months before otherwise you’d just release the original. Her hair is as was at the time of the photo being taken on the Friday night, it’s her face that has the most compression, ie that’s where they brought in bits of other photos to create a new composite image of her face.

So it seems her body, her hair, was as snapped i think but her face was a composite image made up of multiple photos. That and the kids hands.

That's why I put ' she in inverted commas. I don't believe she did it. She didn't even admit to it in her statement. All the British press have ignored Kensington Palace being downgraded as a trusted source and put all the blame on her. Even as they pretend to be sympathetic in their ' leave Kate alone! She made a mistake!' they have thrown the blame away from KP and William and onto Kate.

I believe she did do some of it. As there are both expert and sloppy edits. It was saved twice.

its been said only a very close knit bunch of people have seen Kate or know what’s wrong, even the staff don’t know. So it is possible she edited it before it went to whomever did the expert editing, to not show her face. Or she did some touching up after.

It's probably significant that only a small group of people were in the know and making decisions. Groupthink sets in and mad plans are okayed.

I am not sure about this photo either. Surely the Queen was not in good enough health for this?

It’s more likely that several frames were taken at the same time, and that there is no one ‘original’ to release.

“This leads me to believe that no one image would have had optimum sharpness across the required detail areas, so multiple frames were likely used to composite a more intended final result. Naturally, this also allows for idealised expressions from all members of the group.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/11/the-sleeve-the-hand-the-knee-the-royal-photos-telltale-signs-of-editing

It’s not the first time it’s been suggested that a posed photo has been edited, for similar reasons.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12007351/amp/Tech-CEO-Christopher-Bouzy-says-portrait-Queen-grandchildren-PHOTOSHOPPED.html

There was less of a fuss then, probably because the editing was less obvious, and the photo was released months after the Queen died.

However the intention was probably the same - just ‘here’s a nice picture’.

There is an ad for a phone running with this currently. I think it is an Android. Will check. It's this one .
https://store.google.com/product/pixel_8?utm_source=sem_bkws&utm_medium=dr&utm_campaign=GS107236&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhtWvBhD9ARIsAOP0GoicY2H5ASfBdHzmlo5a3wpctxNqvGdBoLSGZsbJs4TkMTpr62C0Al8aAksiEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&pli=1&hl=en-GB

You are being deliberately obtuse. The reason why heavily edited photos are not allowed is if they give a false impression. If KP had put it out just on their Instagram, then that's not 'news'. That picture of The Queen is not 'news.' It obviously didnt happen. Sending a picture to a 'news agency' makes it news. If they cannot be sure it is a representation of the truth, it can't be published as news. The reason that photo was published in the first place was because KP was a trusted source, so they waved it through. They are no longer a trusted source, so anything they send to international news agencies will now have to be verified in a way they weren't before.

According to their standards, no you can’t do any manipulation or combining of photos.

Even if they believed the intention of the photo was well meant, I think they drew the line in the correct place. You can’t release photos with obvious bits of sleeve missing. If they accept that, how do they draw the line when a photo is submitted with malign intent?

I have to sometimes do a session on Professional ethics to students who are doing various vocational courses. It can be a bit boring, but my obsession with Kate's photo's has given me a cracking case study idea on professional ethics and intention. I hope this story drags on until at least next Tuesday!