Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

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An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

Sure, it is out of concern - whatever you want to tell yourselves.

Like Kate, say.

Boring clickbait. It's a lovely picture.
I am an expert also so what? We all are experts, we are women

What the fuck is wrong with everyone. It’s a nice picture, posted for Mother’s Day. I I think they have done in the past.

the world has gone full Inspector Poirot.

am not very interested in the photo itself, as I said, it’s a nice picture. But bloody hell it’s been fascinating watching everyone go full wobble.

Utter rubbish.

Kate is a keen amateur photographer. She was spotted with a digital camera in 2011. We know she took photos for her family’s party business, for the catalogue, before marrying William. So mid to late 2000s.

i also have dabbled with photoshop and cameras for just as long. But only here and there, it’s not even a hobby. Just something you pick up tinkering with pics and tutorials over the years. So has probably done it a lot more than me - and even I think it’s quite easy to use the clone and stamp tool when you’ve had an go an few times, and basic masking too - not exactly difficult. you can paint in parts of different images to create a composite with all the bits you like best.

i just think Kate rushed it tbh, didn’t zoom in and check closely enough. Hence the imperfections.

my guess is she didn’t like her face in one photo, in another one charlottes arm was bent weirdly, in another Louis head was the wrong way etc etc, perhaps George blinked… so she just painted in some of the better bits from multiple photos taken at the same time.

I think we should look at this in the light of the enormous power the RF have. Every single bill passed by government has to have royal assent- that means KC has to actually sign off every major law and meet with the PM regularly. That's what his actual work is. It's not toothless- royal assent has been refused or bills altered in favour of the RF in the recent past.
If KC becomes very unwell then William takes over- and actually should be "in training" in some way.
If William was a senior member of parliament, or in the House of Lords, putting out faked photos would at the very least invite speculation from the press. Just look at constant comment on Rishi Sunak's wife and her family business.
Honesty and transparency are pretty important I think.

yes, it was posted on Insta and ALSO sent through the official KP channel to the news agencies as official communication. When the news agencies contacted them to ask for the original photo (to ascertain the origin of the image), KP refused.

Kate is not William or Charles though?

Agreed that looked bad - but that wasn't a short notice cancellation, rather it was planned non-attendance (like the Edinburghs weren't at the memorial as they were on holiday)

I was asking about the last-minute cancellations you mentioned before

(because of course I meant "short" not "sort" in previous post!)

Your life is so great that you have time to just come on to this thread - which you apparently have no interest in - simply to complain that people need to get a life....

Where are the logic police? 🤣

Yes, ordinary, intelligent people can’t see the fuss! Two million people have liked the Instagram post. Even polls in AIBU show that about 85% of hundreds of MN members think it’s a storm in a teacup… There’s just a small band of Harry and Meghan fans and conspiracy nuts (and the media) trying to turn a non-story into a drama.

You are not alone.
Me too.

It’s actually been very funny watching so many people obsessing over this. Perplexing, but very funny all the same.

She isn't @LoreleiG but I'm comparing her to Mrs Sunak. I do not honestly think that the RF issue any kind of statement or image without Palace oversight.
People who believe Catherine does her own Insta unsupervised need to think harder.

“royal assent has been refused or bills altered in favour of the RF in the recent past”

Really? As I believed their head of state role to be purely perfunctory.

I have googled and there appear to indeed be bills which have been vetted by Queen’s consent over the years - without studying them in depth this appears to have been a formality.

Royal assent on the other hand has not been refused since 1708 (when the Queen Anne was asked to refuse it by parliament) unless something has changed since this article in July 2023. The RF seems to therefore only formally do what the House of Commons has already decided. Charles was expected to be less neutral than the Queen as he has lots of personal views but I haven’t seen any evidence of this so far.

Not an expert - happy to be corrected.

https://theweek.com/royal-family/97645/how-much-power-does-charles-have

Kate is not William or Charles though?

I think many people are questioning William and the KP machine rather than Catherine in all this. I question whether serious ( possibly life altering) surgery has made her reevaluate things and she's not happy to play the game anymore. I really doubt she's the one doing the extensive photoshop and surely the PR/SM team would have to sign it off and send it to the agencies, so why is Catherine being thrown under the bus? It seems that their focus is the crown and the heir, so anyone else is fair game.

"I have googled and there appear to indeed be bills which have been vetted by Queen’s consent" @LoreleiG
More about that here;

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/27/queen-secret-influence-laws-revealed-scottish-government-memo

The RF have directly benefited from this- lots of it concerns access to their land. I have confused the Queen's consent with assent, but basically it's the same thing because if she refuses consent the government goes back and amends the law until the RF agrees.
That's a massive amount of power.

The problem is is speaks to whether there is a NEED for a monarchy.

If you can entirely turn off the function of monarchy when you need/want privacy or need time for illness, do you need a monarch?

The previous Queen still had a big enough royal family for the monarchy as a whole figurehead to function through illness. She never claimed to be able to turn on and off the function of monarchy at will. The monarch figuredhead functioned because it was necessary, you did what you needed to as a collective group to ensure that.

Charles, Kate and William have currently turned off the role of monarch. The have asserted their right for time off. Whilst that may be right personally, the monarchy really isn't functioning currently. There is noone Currently maintaining the figurehead unit and noone it's overly feeling the loss.

What's worse the one thing they do do when they are non functional is frankly substandard. To release a press photo that cannot pass on news sites is extraordinarily incompetent. And whilst it's fine for an amateur to tinker, these people are not just weathy amateurs, they are meant to be a professional figureheads.

And essentially the picture was a lie. At the same time as expecting the press to rebuke Henry and Megan for their lies and disrespect for the institution of monachy, they are whole heartedly doing the same. Its therefore not overly surprising that the press going to town on it. Whilst the photo is a small insignificant thing really, The hypocrisy it represents is incredible

The Queen was rightly respected for her duty and service. None of what we have seen with this present King has any sign of service. They are entitled to take time off, they are entitled to release piss poor photos to a media that essentially they are reliant on for their survival.

Monarchies that are based on entitlement do not survive

68 acts of parliament have been given royal assent since 2022.
4 have been given since the start of this year.
These can be approved by KC, Princess Anne or Prince Edward (as counsellors of state). So although KC is working he has "back up".
I think people forget that this is the real function of the RF and the rest is just a sideshow.
The whole Catherine thing is very dangerous for constitutional monarchy as it paints them in the same light as the rest of the political world eg untrustworthy and dissembling. They need to get a grip quickly and show they're transparent and honest.

Absolutely. I think the press are trolling the public in plain sight lol

Whatever the issue is, I expect it will all come out eventually.

#freekate

If people are genuinely upset about the photo, republicanism will be a major issue at the next election. I suspect it won’t.

Icedlatteplease Good Post!

The whole Catherine thing is very dangerous for constitutional monarchy as it paints them in the same light as the rest of the political world eg untrustworthy and dissembling.

In the past century, a King has abdicated, and the family have survived the scandals of Princess Margaret, Charles and Diana, and Prince Andrew and even, back in the day, Prince Edward and Princess Anne. For much of this time the press viewed the Queen as frumpy and boring.

I think they will survive this.

If you can entirely turn off the function of monarchy when you need/want privacy or need time for illness, do you need a monarch?

No-one can answer that as it's not happened. Because various functions of Government would cease without a Head of State. I know Belgium managed without a government for a surprisingly long time (country administered by the civil service, but no governing going on).

The King continues to work - all constitutional duties as Head of State are being carried out. It's only larger public gatherings that he has suspended.
(The Princess, who is on complete sick leave, does not have a constitutional role)

It's also unlikely to happen in other circumstances, as short gaps would be covered by Counsellors of State (normally acting in pairs) or a Regent (for lasting incapacity).

I don’t think ‘many’ people are questioning this at all.

I think most people are completely baffled by the fact that a few fanatics are trying to make a huge drama about absolutely nothing, aided and abetted by the media

Most people just wish Kate well as she recovers from surgery and hope that she is able to resume her duties after Easter without being subjected to this drama and unhinged scrutiny