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Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

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Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 05:18

An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

NBC 10 talks to graphics expert who analyzed Princess Kate's family photo

NBC 10 News on Monday talked to an expert in user experience who analyzed the photo of the Princess of Wales and her children that was pulled by leading news...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

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HaveringGold · 12/03/2024 06:46

Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 06:13

If they can navigate Brexit, they can navigate getting rid of the monarchy & even the mainstream media are saying that the wheels are falling off since QE2 died.

I'm not sure who the "they" are you are talking about here but if it includes the government, the media or the british public I'd argue that none of them navigated Brexit with any form of grace or indeed success.

And as for debate on the institution, there may be a very very small number of people with that genuine aim, the vast number of people on MN (and I am not even going to dive into the swamp that is X) are doing it as malicious gossip and hoping that they get to win the "I told you so" prize if and when something highly personal is uncovered.

WandaWonder · 12/03/2024 06:53

Wonder what has more scrutiny this or zapruder's film?

Nonewclothes2024 · 12/03/2024 06:53

JubileeJumps · 12/03/2024 05:21

People need to get a life.

They really do , I'm fascinated by the number of threads about this.
Lots of people stating 'facts' about her when they don't know anything.

NDerbys32 · 12/03/2024 06:59

In a world where filters and photoshop are so common, and let's be right some of it is farcical, and this gets the traction it does is ridiculous.
If I were Kate and William, that would be it. Little interaction or images.
I wish them well, no matter what is happening with Kate's health - which is also little to do with anyone else.

Inkanta · 12/03/2024 06:59

If Kate didn't edit it then - then why did "they" say she did. That's the crux of why this won't go away. It's out of concern for Kate and the truth - it's not bullying.

FaiIureToLunch · 12/03/2024 07:00

Does anybody else not think that the press knew the real story behind her disappearance and knew instantly that this was fake because she couldn’t possibly have been present?

her face IMO has been superimposed, the proportions are totally wrong

ASighMadeOfStone · 12/03/2024 07:04

In fairness, the reason this is such a big story dates back to post 1997 after Diana's death when the RF gained (quite rightly and unprecedentedly) an agreement with the news outlets not to publish photos of royal children. The family themselves would approve one or two carefully set up photoshoots (iirc the first was a skiing holiday?) or they themselves would release their own (professional or amateur) pics on various occasions.

Now to all intents and purposes faked photo has been released.

Whether it was the POW doing her own editing, or KP, or whoever ultimately isn't important. And neither is the conspiracy machine that's leaped into action.

They've been caught lying. So the press in particular is now going Mach 10 wondering what else they're lying about if they're prepared for whatever reason to fake a photo.

(I'm a royalist 😂 but this is one of those "what the fuck have you done" moments. Bit like Diana's interview and It's a Knockout)

TesticularHeft · 12/03/2024 07:07

What bullshit. An expert... but not one good enough to do it well or correctly. By any other name... not an expert.

theduchessofspork · 12/03/2024 07:11

She used to do the photos for her parents business, plus she’s recuperating at home, so I imagine she might have.

It’s just a spliced image to make everyone look their best, presumably? The photo of the old queen and all her great grandkids had similarly amateurishly put together different images so the RF have previous of being slapdash.

I think it’s all very mundane. They do need a PR overhaul though.

Lougle · 12/03/2024 07:14

It's a combination of factors, isn't it? The RF used to engage as much as was necessary to keep the press at bay. The Queen was famously stoic and kept family affairs quite private.

The younger generation of Royals have tried to become more relevant and engaging. Times have moved on and instead of the odd photo, developed in a dark room, hundreds of photos can be taken in seconds.

Now, there are medical concerns and the RF has asked for privacy. But privacy is an illusion and you can't have it all. You can't be a figure if public interest and keep your privacy. It's just not how modern society works.

It would have been much simpler for KP to give occasional bland updates about the health of Princess Catherine. They could easily have said 'She's out of hospital and is now recuperating. She thanks you for your concern and well wishes.' 'She's doing well and her recovery is progressing as expected. She thanks you for your concern and well wishes.'

If they had done that, they would have avoided a lot of speculation. I'm so glad I'm not a Royal.

Lilysilrose · 12/03/2024 07:15

Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 05:22

I think she meant more experienced than an amateur, enough to do it by “hand” on Adobe and make drastic changes. It wasn’t a few tweaks here and there that got out of hand.

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I could do it and I only do it as a hobby. This isn’t rocket science.

CurlewKate · 12/03/2024 07:17

The significance is not the photoshopping- if the agencies didn't accept photoshopped pictures there would be no pictures. The issue is that apparently the picture is not date stamped. So KP tried to pass off a composite picture off as recent. Even the most determined "nothing to see here" people MUST think that's at least a little strange, surely!!

HonorGold · 12/03/2024 07:19

rwalker · 12/03/2024 05:29

I’m massively at a loss why this is suck a big deal and creating so much news

Glad you said that. Me too! I just think “who cares”. I don’t understand the multiple threads on this.

photo released for Mother’s Day
its been edited with some errors
either my Kate or professionally
and…?

WestSouthWest · 12/03/2024 07:19

I responded to another thread on this yesterday and I never usually engage with anything to do with the royal family. It is a worldwide trending topic on social media and in the news. I do feel sorry for Kate. She’s trying to recover from major surgery with the press and social media sleuths going haywire and refusing to leave her alone. The pressure to get better, get back out there and be the ‘perfect princess’ is revolting actually.

I have some experience with photo editing as part of my job. I do know enough from looking at the picture to tell that something is not right with that photo. I think it goes way beyond AI/photo editor apps and agree that there is evidence it has potentially been edited to present a false or misleading narrative to the public. That is why people are curious. I am inclined to agree that this sort of edit would need to be done by someone with more advanced photoshop skills. Which also begs the question of why some big glaring errors were left on the final edited image.

They should not have bowed to media pressure and unhinged shrieking online by releasing this photo. If she is too unwell to be seen, that’s perfectly fine and she takes as much time as she needs to recover. The photo has done more harm than good and now the media has a whiff of scandal (and all the associated clicks/outraged comments) they will keep pumping out articles about this and will add more fuel to the fire.

sashagabadon · 12/03/2024 07:19

I think the Americans experts need to keep their opinions to themselves!

FraSz · 12/03/2024 07:21

somewhereovertherain · 12/03/2024 05:47

The fuss is more what are they hiding the fact they’ve lied to the photo agencies and the image has been pulled because they don’t accept brushed up images.

This is it, it’s the lying knowing that they aren’t allowed to release a photoshopped photo pretending it’s real.

I think it’s come up to Mother’s Day and one of them has remembered the nice picture they have from last November on the day they went to the baby bank. They’ve thought they can’t post it as people will straightaway say it was in November. Why not post it without a date to avoid further lies if it really is about Mother’s Day and not a proof of life photo? They’ve then done all that editing, signed it as ‘C’ to say she’s alive and said William took it because he’s not in the photo and people would then say that proves the divorce.

They’ve tried to use a simple nice photo to cover way too many bases here and it’s turned into a whole spiral of lies. The lies are just getting worse as they try to get out of it now too 😬

sashagabadon · 12/03/2024 07:22

CurlewKate · 12/03/2024 07:17

The significance is not the photoshopping- if the agencies didn't accept photoshopped pictures there would be no pictures. The issue is that apparently the picture is not date stamped. So KP tried to pass off a composite picture off as recent. Even the most determined "nothing to see here" people MUST think that's at least a little strange, surely!!

If they did it was in response to all the internet ghouls and their obscene demands on a woman trying to recover from surgery.
and they often release old photos. One Xmas card was them on holiday somewhere probably 6 months before!

NotStylishOrBeautiful · 12/03/2024 07:23

I don’t think we needed an expert to tell us that Kate didn’t edit it…

Merrymouse · 12/03/2024 07:35

The only thing you need to know is that a picture of the Princess of Wales generates clicks, so people who make money out of clicks will push this story as far as they can.

I do think that at some point the U.K. will need to ask itself whether the Faustian pact between the Royals and the media renders the institution too toxic to continue.

IloveAslan · 12/03/2024 07:42

Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 05:23

I really do, but at the moment I’m unwell and this is utterly fascinating. I also note that every news outlet in the world is analysing this so we are not alone.

I can assure you that they are not! People here are barely mentioning it, and the newsreaders have a look on their faces which says WTF???? on the couple of minutes devoted to it halfway through the news. It's also not "utterly fascinating", more utterly depressing that this is all some people have to occupy their minds with. I've just been out to dinner with a group of people - not one person mentioned it.

Merrymouse · 12/03/2024 07:49

IloveAslan · 12/03/2024 07:42

I can assure you that they are not! People here are barely mentioning it, and the newsreaders have a look on their faces which says WTF???? on the couple of minutes devoted to it halfway through the news. It's also not "utterly fascinating", more utterly depressing that this is all some people have to occupy their minds with. I've just been out to dinner with a group of people - not one person mentioned it.

So they are actually covering the story.

namechangeduetoimpatience · 12/03/2024 07:54

Deardoofus · 12/03/2024 06:27

If they are hiding anything it will be personal and sensitive. You, OP, are part of the problem, hounding a woman who is unwell and a family with young kids who are trying to come to grips with a challenging situation. Leave it alone for heaven's sake. She felt pressure into publishing some sign of life when she wasn't ready. It was a mistake. People make mistakes when they are unwell, maybe on meds and severely under pressure, even the royal family. Let them sort out whatever personal situation they're grappling with with dignity and some privacy. In this instance it's Kate and her family being severely bullied and mocked online but that same online mob mentality may come knocking your family's door one day. I wouldn't wish it on anyone including the royal family. I am no royalist, I don't mind critical posts or articles that actually make intelligent arguments against the monarchy but these disparaging, below the belt, no shred of empathy or humanity threads on Twitter and now sadly on Mumsnet are too much. They hurt us all, not just the victim of online bullying, which in this case is Kate and her family including her young children. This tone of 'debate' or sharing opinions is harmful to society.

YES!!!

Its OP's fault that they lied. The worst part is that its OP's fault that they got caught in the cover up. how dare OP.

MrsFinkelstein · 12/03/2024 07:54

Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 06:42

This isn’t online bullying, it’s speculation over how the institution is run. Anyone can see that the royals are just cogs in the machine, it’s the same questions that the media are asking.

The royal family are an institution and should be accountable.

The blame has been thrown at Kate and if anything this thread is in her defence.

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This is very much online bullying and the fact you can't see that is an indicator of your own personality.

RoyalDramaLlama · 12/03/2024 07:56

Yes. KP and her husband, the person who allegedly took the photo have blamed Kate. They could have apologised and kept her out of it. They could have sent the press the original photo. They have refused. Why don't KP know about the rules of photo agencies, even though they regularly send them photos? How does anyone know that it isn't Kate, a ' married in' member of the RF who is being bullied by the Royals? It wouldn't be the first time. If she has been forced to take the blame for huge amounts of photoshopping, or a photo from months ago has been passed off as her last week against her wishes? Why was she made to go for that ridiculous drive to the doctors when she has managed to do it incognito for 3 months? This family are our Heads of State. They wield enormous power. This is why they need to be held to account. The press hardly ever do it and are only doing it now because its such a huge story. The DM have already changed their stories to blame some lackey at KP and absolve William of all blame.

WinnieTheW0rm · 12/03/2024 07:56

There's no fucking let up, is there?