Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

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An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

Yes because the royal family know that photos aren't allowed to be photoshopped before distribution - and they did it anyway

The monachy hasn't really functioned as a head of state for a very long time. We are for all intents and purposes in terms of governance, a democracy.

I don't think anyone could possibly be advocating the right way for us to be making laws in a modern world is by a man who was told he could because he just so happened to be born into the right family.

They are primarily a figurehead. A source of pomp and ceremony. The Queen absolutely understood this.

They are not currently functioning as a figurehead at all. On a basic level this is demonstrated by the Royal gossips having nothing to gossip about other than a substandard photo and the absence of a family member.

#freekate should never be the main thing royal gossips have to talk about.

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Think the people with tin hats are the ones that believe press releases.

Do you think the family are lizards and the moon landings didn't happen?

@Icedlatteplease we absolutely DO NOT function constitutionally as a democracy at the moment- we've had 3 unelected prime ministers for a start. If William was to abdicate at this point we would have a child King and a regency. Yet the RF would still have a major role in the state opening of parliament, the legislature and the church.
Watching ( and paying for ) the coronation really brought home the sense of divine right that's still at the heart of the state and how they view themselves as above scrutiny.
The country is in absolute chaos and someone needs to step up - the last thing that's needed is more cover up and instability.

Yes I spoke to a professional about it too, or rather he raised it with us because I guess what he does for a job. A lot of people imagine that a professional would create an image where you couldn't tell it was manipulated, but that isn't the case. They are not doing it to a forensic level when they're creating images for advertising or celebrity photos. This photoshopping is actually acceptable in the industry. It is clearly not acceptable when it comes to an officially released royal family photo because of the level of deception. It is higher than most realise, there is a lot of photoshopping of her head and her hands- which impacted Charlottes sleeve. The agencies have been put in a difficult position, and every outlet discussing it has made a lot of where the editing is, for a reason. They feel they can't say the obvious, and what would absolutely lead to agencies issuing a kill notice: Kate's head has been added.

I don't see much criticism or nastiness about Kate online, nobody seems to be 'blaming' her at all, so I do find this overly defensive comments online by supporters really odd- why is there a thread on the board blasting other posters about this? that seems out of place. Nobody is actually being mean to Kate, I actually think many people are worried for her and think William is letting her down. oh and the only thing that is professionally poor about the image, is that they didn't put it through metadata scrubbing software.

No I agree. I would abolish the monachy in a heartbeat beat, however I think it's entirely insignificant in terms for voting.

It's isn't really overly likely abolition will happen that way. It's likely to happen over a long period over time if public opinion slowly goes against it and it becomes just one of those laws that passes in parliament because enough of parliament now feels that way.

But that's the thing. The monachy relies on public support to function. Through all the Diana/Fergie scandals the monachy had the queen to carry it through. It does not have the queen

Most rulers who rely on public support recognise the right for public to grieve with them through illness and death. They have that right because they are expected to care and the monachy has a responsibility to respresent the cares of the people. It's why we have state funerals, why Eva perons "don't cry for me Argentina" speech is so famous and why the royal family grieved at Princess Diana's funeral despite her being a thorn in their side; the country hurt so the monachy hurts, the monachy hurts so the public hurt. Or it is keep so quiet and the monach functions as normal.

If the royal family can do neither it is at risk of being quietly abolished in about 50 years as an irrelevance

Given that the idea of having hereditary peers in the House of Lords was dropped some time ago, it might be the right time to review any remaining power that the Monarchy possesses to influence laws, dodgy photos or no dodgy photos.

Our laws are made by Parliament. Which we vote a ruling party in for, hence it is a democracy. We do not vote for a prime minister, none of our prime ministers are ever elected. We do not have a president. You vote for a party. In the age of personality politics it is easy to forget that.

All of the roles you mention are figurehead ceremonial. They have no actual function in the making, passing and maintaining of Law. They have no role in the administration of the country. They are there as a statement of power.

A figurehead organisation that is above scrutiny should not be releasing photograph that have clearly fake and substandard for the purpose it was released. But I don't think anyone really takes seriously divine right and unfailibility of Kings anymore. Do they?!? Really?!? KING CHARLES?!? 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣

Unfortunately I have to agree this this.

@Icedlatteplease they absolutely do. The oaths that KC took after his mother's death are extremely solemn( not to mention anti Catholic ) and he is the anointed head of the Church of England which still has bishops in the House of Lords.
He can withdraw consent from legislation as I have previously posted. Everything in our "democracy " relies on precedent, which is ok - till it's not. Prime ministers are chosen by their party and until recently if they changed more than twice "precedent " was for an election, but that was changed.
Rishi Sunak is definitely not elected, not even by his own party- they chose Liz Truss and when she went he got in as second choice.
The King is still absolutely Head of State in a real sense whether we like it or not. If we want to change to a proper country with elected houses and a republic I would be delighted.
I don't think this is the time and to see it all collapse right now would be extremely frightening.

Don't you have any real news to talk about in Britain? This is nuts.

The Royal Family request exemptions BEFORE they go to Parliament, and before they are given Royal assent. The Royal households still have an exemption from the Equality Act, as the Queen requested an exemption from the Race Relations Act and it wasn't removed when the legislation was amalgamated into the Equality Act. She also requested ( and was granted) exemptions from environmental legislation [passed by the Scottish Parliament. There are many other pieces of legislation that have been altered before they go to Parliament this way, and not debated. They had to be revealed through freedom of Information requests, hard fought They have huge powers that are not scrutinised by Parliament. They don't care about the rubber stamping afterwards. They have got what exemptions they want.

Me too...unless they think that Catherine is no longer around and has been superimposed on an image.

This is the only reason I can think of for all the drama about a photograph.

We are multi faceted people here in the uk. We can actually show interest and discuss multiple topics. Genuinely we can. Astounding. I know.

We do too but we are not obsessed with one incident over and over again. Maybe we take a more global view.

@oakleaffy are you saying that the Princess of Wales died and they are pretending she is alive and they are telling her children to pretend she is alive? That is nuts.

Curiouser and curiouser.
When Harry and Meghan were hounded out of the country I guess it created a vacancy for other Royals to be hounded instead. H and M are probably glad it's not them for a change

are you really surprised? you must see the endless discussion all over Sm about Meghan, some involving things that took place many years ago and are still being discussed.

Well yes Meghan and Suits were filmed in Toronto so yes it was in the press and yes the move to the US of A. Meghan though makes her living by appearing in public so it is to be expected whereas the Princess of Wales is a woman who is currently ill. That's just my take on it.

And yet none of them (Charles, William or Kate) are currently serving the country. They are all taking time off. They all take that oath very solemnly, so solemnly none of them currently are doing it 🙄🙄🙄🙄.

Charles has such a good track record of taking seriously solemn oaths taken in church in front of the country. (Side bar You are aware there has always been discussion over the extent to which camilla is Catholic, Charles is so anti Catholic he has a Catholic supporter as wife and queen and Catholic stepchildren)

If King Charles ever failed to provide his royal assent it would provoke abolition. House of commons wouldn't stand for their authority being undermined like that. Rightly so.

If the royal assent was there our democracy would function exactly as it currently does. Nothing would collapse norhing would really change, just some (rather unpleasant) dude in fancy clothes wouldn't squiggle anything at the end. Really not sure how that is scary.

Once again, you do not, and have never, elected a prime minister. You elect a political party who in turn elect a representative to lead them. Yes Rishi was voted by the Conservative part to lead them, he didnt suddenly take power by military coup. It just so happened that the Conservative party had been democratically elected at the time.

Divine right of Kings? Holy cow. Its like the French and Russian revolutions never happened!! And those are just the most famous ones

"Jenny Smith" must have very low standards.

I've been a magazine, newspaper and book art director for more than 30 years. If any of my colleagues had produced such an amateur bodge for an image that was going to be so high profile, we'd be having a stern chat. The anomalies were glaring from the moment the image was released.

The retouching (such as it is) displays a degree of amateur competence from someone who may have used Photoshop for a couple of years. It's absolutely not a professional effort.

You have a royal family who have used the British Press to demolish their own family members over "lies", inconsistencies and entitlement. They then tell the press they are "not allowed" to report on them, while they announce they are taking a break and release an image is essentially 💩. During a period on time when they as a figurehead should be leading the fight against misleading imagery.

So it's OK for them to be misleading and entitled just not anyone else?

It's not about a photograph. It's about how the monachy should or shouldn't function

The country is in absolute chaos and someone needs to step up - the last thing that's needed is more cover up and instability.

The Russians and other enemies of the UK absolutely love this just like with Brexit. Watch social dilemma on Netflix.

@Icedlatteplease if you think that the RF don't have any real power you should probably learn a bit more about how they do things. I was shocked about the exemption from the race relations act revealed in a previous post, but not surprised.
Everything in our constitution rests on precedent and requires the RF to comply. The pantomime of Black Rod not letting the monarch in to the chambers without consent is just an example, when you see that they have set the agenda beforehand.
I can't think of another modern democracy that has hereditary heads of state and no written constitution.
After Liz Truss there should have been an election, by precedent, but there wasn't. The country is in a mess at the moment and the last thing we need is serious speculation about the future head of state's wife/ mother. They need to get a grip.

Alternatively it might be the press are waking up to the fact they backed a side in an argument only to find themselves royally stabbed in the back by a monachy that wanted to do secretly what Henry and Megan where quite open about doing, ie a monachy organisation where the individuals within it all operate on a part time basis.