Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

[Primrosecottagelover]

An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

They did do that.

It's like a feeding frenzy. Chuck a piece of meat to the sharks and watch them go mad trying to grab it and rip it apart. I wonder if it occurs to the press that they're not exactly endearing themselves to PW, who isn't a fan of theirs in the first place?

The comment accompanying the photo on Instagram said it was taken in the past week.

Well, here's another self proclaimed expert who says it wasn't done by an expert (17 yrs experience in the indistry he claims) but by someone with a basic level of knowledge.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGefMhJWM/

Why don't KP know about the rules of photo agencies, even though they regularly send them photos?

The example of the twins birthday pic (obvious "lift" from an earlier pic, with 4 people cut out) or even little things like apparent alteration of the thickness of Harry's hair haven't led to repudiation of the shots.

So they would have no way to have predicted that their "best shot" version of a pic would cause al storm.

Much of the early criticism came from people who carry out photo manipulation as part of their job. Including MNetters who said they had direct experience. Were they all wrong on Sunday when they said it looked amateurish?

@MrsFinkelstein it’s interesting she just says ‘surgery’.

Out of concern? Please!
Some people care, some want gossip, some are just crazy but the social media posts with the biggest engagements mostly come from H&M fans. As someone who's on social media, I can tell you that these people don't give af about Kate. They have been insulting her for years, mocking her weight, her extended family, attacking her marriage, her children,...

This is not out out of concern for Kate. A lot of people want revenge and vindication for Meghan. Destroying Kate (and William), who the media have put against H&M, is what they want.

One thing that's puzzling me not directly the point but raised in the thread is whether it is sent to the agencies? I would be interested to know how it all works, from reading the BBC article the Palace put it on Instagram etc and they lifted it from there but from reading other posts it sounds like the royals send the pic and some background out to news agencies and that's where the issue is as they haven't disclosed its a modified pic. Have I understood this properly?

Something is very off about that picture.

I'm not a usual conspiracy theorist, however I too think it looks like her head has been superimposed on someone else's body.

Kate very rarely appears in public without her engagement ring, yet it's not there.

The body pose is an odd one for her, she looks quite rigid, considering these are her DC.

The statement purporting to be from her does not sound like the tone we are used to hearing from her previously, but some formal corporate speak.

The picture of "Kate" in the car with William very conveniently had the back of her head to the cameras.

Not sure what is going on in the background, but this is a huge fail for the Royal Family, who seem to have imploded since our beloved Queen departed (I loved the Queen by the way, but no-one else).

#freekate

Yes, the best forensic account I've seen (from one of the agencies that killed distribution) says the meta data shows the final image was taken on Friday, with enhancements from other pix (ie best shot splicing) also taken on Friday.

And that the work was all carried out on a Mac, and that they have spotted 61 things.

So yes, that's a lot, but nowhere do they say any of them required specialist skill.

The remaining question is what does this mean for everyone else's curated images, heavily used in entertainment news?

Are we going to see more people held to account? If this really is a case of the highest profile way possible for the agencies to fire a warning shot, then I'd expect to see more held to this standard in future.

@sashagabadon "and they often release old photos."

Of course they do. They don't usually say they were taken the week before though.....

I'm with you @Primrosecottagelover . I don't normally go for 'conspiracy theories' but this def doesn't add up and isn't just about people picking her photo apart.

She hasn't been since since the op, KP were under pressure to release something showing she's OK....and then the thing they decide to release turns out to be heavily doctored. When that is found out, they could have decided to show the original, but they didn't. So in a nutshell - STILL no proof that Kates been seen since the op. And the one pic in the car was very conveniently timed straight after and perfectly set to not really conclusively show if it was her either.

I can't get past the fact that the Spanish journo who claimed Kate's in a coma (or recovering from one) first broke that news BEFORE the Princess left hospital. KP of course denied it. The journalist has absolutely adamantly stood by her source, despite all the media backlash. And lo and behold- Kate then disappears completely ever since and weird doctored images get put out and William misses the v important ceremony for his Godfather, all too odd.

The statement purporting to be from her does not sound like the tone we are used to hearing from her previously, but some formal corporate speak.

Starseeking, you've put into words one of the things that didn't feel right to me. The recent statements attributed to Kate are like something agreed by committee.

Yes, I personally think they know. And have reached an agreement to buy time to see if she recovers. Because the press no full well if anything happens to her, its essentially curtains for the UK monarchy - the public won't rally behind William so much alone, the kids are too young, Harry is well....Harry, and poor old King Charles has his health issues now too. The RF are a whole life force for the press themselves so it's hardly in their best interests to bring them down entirely. Plus you'd hope the press have some respect for Kate - she always seems to have given them what they wanted in a courteous, professional way.

I just don't care. It's a sodding family photo, it just doesn't matter.

I think there are many in the US who think tabloid behaviour to Meghan was a new phenomenon, and don't realise how much it happened in the past.

The Princess of Wales had had years of harsh, critical intrusion before the engagement (not good enough, too lazy - even though it was press intrusion into workplaces that had made a working life impossible).

You could only see this as "revenge for Meghan" if you has no idea what she went through, nor the Duchess of York, nor the York Princesses, nor Princess Anne, nor the Duchess of Edinburgh, nor Queen Camilla.

It's shit for all of them. And it's Harry and William who are each in their own ways attempting to protect their families from.

Anyone who thinks this is some sort of revenge for Meghan really needs to take a hard look at why they think that's in any shape or form a laudable or even acceptable thing.

William misses the very important ceremony for his Godfather

The same William that didn't go the actual funeral last year. He clearly wasn't close to his godfather and William (and Kate) have cancelled engagements at the last minute in the past, hence why so many people have been calling them workshy for years.

To me, all of this mess could've been avoided had their social media page released a few never seen throwback pictures of Kate while she's away and William working more.

He's clearly healthy so him carrying out very few engagements and mostly staying away while Kate has been recovering only fuelled speculations

Yes that's the crux of it. Intentional deceptions Photos and statements supposedly coming from Kate may not be from Kate at all.The public don't like deception and scapegoating .

The RF are a whole life force for the press themselves so it's hardly in their best interests to bring them down entirely

And right here is why we have this feeding frenzy - press finally have something about Kate's health that they can speculate about and run past the 'experts' who in their turn can get some airtime for their 'theories...' they must have been chewing their desks up to now that KP wasn't releasing anything that could be jumped on. That's all they care about, the clicks and and the airtime. What it's doing to the humans involved won't interest them for a minute.

What other engagements have they cancelled at sort notice? (Other than for Catherine's pregnancy complications)

Whether William was close to his godfather or not, he'd agreed to give a reading, so his absence was noticeable

In 2017, I think he missed the Commonwealth Day to go on a ski trip. I think this is the same trip where he was filmed dancing

Why does K apologise for ‘confusion’ it caused & if she worked as the photographer for her family’s business she’d know how to edit & is a perfectionist. Odd but surely a storm in a tea cup?

This! Find another hobby op, this one is pretty unedifying!

**biggest engagements mostly come from H&M fans. As someone who's on social media, I can tell you that these people don't give af about Kate. They have been insulting her for years, mocking her weight, her extended family, attacking her marriage, her children,...

This is not out out of concern for Kate. A lot of people want revenge and vindication for Meghan. Destroying Kate (and William), who the media have put against H&M, is what they want.**

It’s very evident on MN too. All the core ‘caring’ ‘be kind’ H&M fans have been putting the boot in with obvious relish when only on Friday their own heroine spoke up against the online ‘spewing’ and hatred of women on women. Maybe they should ‘be more Meghan’.

Ffs it’s photoshop not rocket science!

Kate’s been taking photos for years so has probably been using the software for years.

An amateur hobby photographer could easily have picked up those skills, and the fact there are blips only makes it more likely to be genuine imo.