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Expert says Wales family photo, unlikely to have been edited by Kate.

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Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 05:18

An expert, Jenny Smith from the American Graphic Institute has told the NBC, that the Wales family photo is heavily edited. The photograph appeared to have been edited by hand, not by AI and new clothing added. Smith told the NBC it would have likely been edited by someone very experienced, not Kate.
Expert on NBC: Kate unlikely to be the editor of the photo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

NBC 10 talks to graphics expert who analyzed Princess Kate's family photo

NBC 10 News on Monday talked to an expert in user experience who analyzed the photo of the Princess of Wales and her children that was pulled by leading news...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxTdEICMtQ

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ismu · 12/03/2024 14:29

I agree with you @Icedlatteplease I just don't think any of us understand how deeply privileged the RF are and how in effect all of our parliamentary traditions and any idea of freedoms or a constitution are entirely made up.
We have absolutely no idea what goes on and that's why this scandal is so fascinating.

aliceinthecities · 12/03/2024 14:32

ismu · 12/03/2024 14:29

I agree with you @Icedlatteplease I just don't think any of us understand how deeply privileged the RF are and how in effect all of our parliamentary traditions and any idea of freedoms or a constitution are entirely made up.
We have absolutely no idea what goes on and that's why this scandal is so fascinating.

I agree with you. It does, in some way, remind me of the infamous Andrew interview. It lifted a curtain into his worldview, with its odd twisted notions - and by extension - the one of the royal family. This is not dissimilar. They really must think they are semi-divine and news agencies of the democratic world are like their valets, will do as told. And, actually, the news here are pretty gentle. I haven't seen anyone actively claiming that Kate's head has been photoshopped in although it is gloriously obvious when you see all the edits marked.

Gloriosaford · 12/03/2024 14:33

BenefitWaffle · 12/03/2024 14:25

And Peter Ball convicted paedophile.

Yes, his talk about the people getting ideas about their station, but look at them, all pampered and soft in the head.
So very undeserving of their station are they, so undeserving that anything which shines a light risks exposing them so that we can all see their lack of legitimacy.

mitogoshi · 12/03/2024 14:38

Rubbish, with the software it's easy to manipulate photos, and to a better quality than this, not even particularly expensive software.

The mistakes pretty much prove the fact it wasn't done professionally

pipsfromthefuture · 12/03/2024 15:44

RatintheCat · 12/03/2024 08:05

One thing that's puzzling me not directly the point but raised in the thread is whether it is sent to the agencies? I would be interested to know how it all works, from reading the BBC article the Palace put it on Instagram etc and they lifted it from there but from reading other posts it sounds like the royals send the pic and some background out to news agencies and that's where the issue is as they haven't disclosed its a modified pic. Have I understood this properly?

Yes that's correct.

They sent it knowing that the photo dud not meet guidelines, and/or they were not transparent upfront with what changes were made to the photo. And then refused to provide the original unedited. Why?

And because of that, a kill photo order was released across multiple agencies, which is so rare. And now this poopstorm.

mathanxiety · 12/03/2024 15:44

Codlingmoths · 12/03/2024 05:25

there have been many articles for many years about Kate’s interest in photography, and any mum would have a bent towards getting a decent family photo. Which is to say of bloody course she is technically proficient enough to hand edit a photo. And for some ‘expert’ to come along and say couldn’t be her is probably sheer misogyny. Disbelief that a woman could be any good at her hobby of many years combined with a soupçon of judgyface that a royal can do anything at all.

Well she's done a very good job of all the previous photos that have allegedly been taken by her. Either she has taken perfect photos for all these years or she has done an excellent job of the touching up.

This photo has so many obvious flaws it clearly had no input from her.

I don't think the misogyny kite is a flier here.

mathanxiety · 12/03/2024 15:45

Also, the expert here is a woman (Jenny Smith).

mathanxiety · 12/03/2024 15:49

flapjackfairy · 12/03/2024 05:50

@Primrosecottagelover
and before you give a sarky reply I am genuinely baffled.
What does it prove if it is edited? . Genuine question. Do people think she has died and the truth is bring kept from us.? Or has she been replaced by a doppelganger ?. What exactly do you and others think is going on in the situation ? And why ?
There was another instant thread dramatically titled BREAKING NEWS about the picture in the car taken yesterday and within a couple of post people were saying it is not Kate but someone else deliberately looking away from the camera. etc etc. It is madness
Surely she is simply recovering from her medical procedure as stated and will be back after Easter like they said. Some people will not be happy until she has stripped naked to show them her scars.

To be fair, the OP of that thread has form for posting multiple breathless threads and letting off steam through both ears for her entire MN posting history.

mathanxiety · 12/03/2024 16:01

ismu · 12/03/2024 09:03

I think we should look at this in the light of the enormous power the RF have. Every single bill passed by government has to have royal assent- that means KC has to actually sign off every major law and meet with the PM regularly. That's what his actual work is. It's not toothless- royal assent has been refused or bills altered in favour of the RF in the recent past.
If KC becomes very unwell then William takes over- and actually should be "in training" in some way.
If William was a senior member of parliament, or in the House of Lords, putting out faked photos would at the very least invite speculation from the press. Just look at constant comment on Rishi Sunak's wife and her family business.
Honesty and transparency are pretty important I think.

The Crown has no political or legislative power whatsoever. The Glorious Revolution established the supremacy of Parliament and clipped the wings of the Crown, a process which has continued apace ever since.

The monarch can suggest that a certain bill be tweaked to make sure Crown lands or sources of revenue are not affected by legislation, but Parliament is not obliged to comply and the monarch is not permitted to refuse assent to any bill once it has been passed by Parliament. Tp do so would precipitate a constitutional crisis.

The monarch is nothing more than a figurehead, and the role of the Crown in legislative affairs is a polite fiction - Parliament is the highest legislative authority, with the Crown providing the legitimacy and the ultimate authority of Parliament, which the monarch is not permitted to withdraw or undermine.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 12/03/2024 16:12

mathanxiety · 12/03/2024 16:01

The Crown has no political or legislative power whatsoever. The Glorious Revolution established the supremacy of Parliament and clipped the wings of the Crown, a process which has continued apace ever since.

The monarch can suggest that a certain bill be tweaked to make sure Crown lands or sources of revenue are not affected by legislation, but Parliament is not obliged to comply and the monarch is not permitted to refuse assent to any bill once it has been passed by Parliament. Tp do so would precipitate a constitutional crisis.

The monarch is nothing more than a figurehead, and the role of the Crown in legislative affairs is a polite fiction - Parliament is the highest legislative authority, with the Crown providing the legitimacy and the ultimate authority of Parliament, which the monarch is not permitted to withdraw or undermine.

The monarch may not have constitutional powers but his power and influence behind the scenes should not be underestimated - only in his interests obviously, but he’s very happy to throw his weight around when he wants something. And what about the ludicrous situation that they decide their own taxes? They have a lot more power than they should.

Roussette · 12/03/2024 16:29

aliceinthecities · 12/03/2024 14:32

I agree with you. It does, in some way, remind me of the infamous Andrew interview. It lifted a curtain into his worldview, with its odd twisted notions - and by extension - the one of the royal family. This is not dissimilar. They really must think they are semi-divine and news agencies of the democratic world are like their valets, will do as told. And, actually, the news here are pretty gentle. I haven't seen anyone actively claiming that Kate's head has been photoshopped in although it is gloriously obvious when you see all the edits marked.

Edited

Yes

I think they are honestly on a different planet and they do not have a CLUE how ordinary people live

And yes on the Andrew interview. The extreme arrogance of the man! Maitlis knew what she'd got and more or less said straight after the interview he was so pleased with how it had gone, he offered to give her a tour of Windsor Castle

Us mere mortals knew we had just watched something quite horrendously spectacular, I was whatsapping my best friend during it and repeatedly saying "oh my god I can't believe this!!!"

Just wait till the film comes out, a stellar cast, due autumn this year I believe. It's called 'Scoop'

Butteredtoast55 · 12/03/2024 16:43

@WinnieTheW0rm well said

emilysquest · 12/03/2024 16:44

It wasn't only paedophiles Savile and Ball that Charles hung out with. Charles's "spiritual advisor" back in the day (and William's godfather) was Laurens van der Post, who fathered a child with a 14 year old girl when he was in his 40s...

DrJoanAllenby · 12/03/2024 16:49

www.instagram.com/p/C4aJaGloTom/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

eise · 12/03/2024 16:51

Taking a photo and editing it are two different things. It's not easy to do any advanced editing of photos although photoshop does now have an AI feature. I suspect this is what happened. I don't believe it's a new photo

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/03/2024 16:53

rwalker · 12/03/2024 05:29

I’m massively at a loss why this is suck a big deal and creating so much news

Because previously KP was a Trusted Source for many news companies. It has now lost that status.

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/03/2024 18:43

I don't understand the fuss about an edited photo when every single photo supplied by the palace would be edited anyway. It's only the candid shots that ordinary people take that wouldn't be edited necessarily.

What is strange is the way it edited and what they were trying to do. When I first saw the photo I thought that the position of her hands looked really strange and I wondered whether that was actually her in the middle or whether they had superimposed that. All that business about the cardigan and the sleeves and all that don't mean anything to me. The press should have a look at Instagram to see really edited photos!

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/03/2024 18:44

The media and the public have just built her up and now they are knocking her down because she refuses to give them every single minute of her life and every single bit of her private information.

Runnerinthenight · 12/03/2024 19:32

My god, if it wasn't for Photoshop when would we ever see a celebrity photo?!!

RoyalDramaLlama · 12/03/2024 19:34

I dont see anyone bringing her down. The vadt majority of the threads of the threads have been defending her and criticising KP and William. As usual the gaslighting of everyone and anyone to protect the blood Royal. They are the ones who panicked and released a doctored photo, blamed her for it and then made her drive around in a car. Telling the public they are to blame for KP's error is going to backfire too.

Runnerinthenight · 12/03/2024 19:35

Gloriosaford · 12/03/2024 14:24

Charlie is an arrogant twit, how can anyone take him seriously, best mates with Jimmy savile 🙄

So the King should have sussed someone who'd taken so very many other people in? Do me a favour!!

Would hardly think they were "best mates" either!

Roussette · 12/03/2024 19:57

RoyalDramaLlama · 12/03/2024 19:34

I dont see anyone bringing her down. The vadt majority of the threads of the threads have been defending her and criticising KP and William. As usual the gaslighting of everyone and anyone to protect the blood Royal. They are the ones who panicked and released a doctored photo, blamed her for it and then made her drive around in a car. Telling the public they are to blame for KP's error is going to backfire too.

°^ This

All female married ins have a horrendous time and many end up leaving.

The Monarchy is protected at all costs

Whatever is going on, the pressure on Kate is indescribable and I am just glad she's got a very supportive family in the middletons.

ChVrches · 12/03/2024 20:10

RoyalDramaLlama · 12/03/2024 19:34

I dont see anyone bringing her down. The vadt majority of the threads of the threads have been defending her and criticising KP and William. As usual the gaslighting of everyone and anyone to protect the blood Royal. They are the ones who panicked and released a doctored photo, blamed her for it and then made her drive around in a car. Telling the public they are to blame for KP's error is going to backfire too.

You are literally making this up. No one knows.

ChVrches · 12/03/2024 20:21

Roussette · 12/03/2024 19:57

°^ This

All female married ins have a horrendous time and many end up leaving.

The Monarchy is protected at all costs

Whatever is going on, the pressure on Kate is indescribable and I am just glad she's got a very supportive family in the middletons.

This just goes to show how false news is spread. Someone says something that they have no factual evidence about it and someone else endorses it and spreads it. It's like Chinese Whispers.