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So Harry flew for 11 hours and then spoke to his father for 45 minutes ? Charles then bobbed to Sandringham by helicopter and Harry checked into a hotel. I mean wouldn't you think Harry would have gone to Sandringham with Charles maybe ?

Yes H won't get through the gates once KC has gone. All very sad.

The days when 'paps' hung around celebrities' homes on the off chance of getting a snap of them driving through the gate are long gone. With the ubiquity of camera phones and social media, there's no money in that sort of thing anymore. Montecito is also more than an hour's drive from LA, so would involve a special trip away from the celebrity heartland.

Most of the photos of celebrities who just happen to be strolling down sipping their coffee the road have been 'arranged' to at least some degree.

Whether or not you like or care about the royals his dash across the ocean was extremely weird. No other family I have ever come across would behave like this. You would come with your wife and kids for a few days, see friends and extended family and see your dad as much as he has time for. You wouldn't come over on your own for a 45 minute visit then home again the next day. Just very very odd.

Wasn't the last time William tried to "build a bridge" after Philip's funeral? The talk in the garden with their father. When William asked Harry why he hadn't told him what he was feeling. And Harry rejected the overture. And Charles asked them to stop fighting and making his last years miserable.

And the reason we know this? Because Harry made it the opening passage of Spare.

Build bridges my arse.

I would have thought. Or, even if you come on your own, you have a few days catching up with friends. It's a long way to come, especially for someone with his openly expressed concern about the environment, otherwise.

@wildernesssw totally agree. He's spent the majority of his life in the UK so presumably has friends and family here who may wish to see him. I just can't make sense of why anyone would fly such a long way for a 45 minute meeting after an early stage cancer diagnosis. It's baffling.

That, and the joint walkabout at Windsor after the Queen had died.

I always took that as an olive branch from W&C.

And again, it ended up spun negatively against them in a book.

I must say I haven't read Spare. An absolute disgrace that Harry revealed private conversations. No wonder William wants no more to do with him.

The royal family aren’t normal, though. We can’t judge them by the normal rules of the game because their lives are fucking nuts, so the way they conduct themselves is fucking nuts.

I thought Harry was close to both of Andrew’s daughters. I’m surprised he didn’t catch up with them, if they are in this country

They're really not like a normal family, are they?

There's an article in the Mail today about Meghan 'breaking cover'

So she went out did she - in her car.

By the way has anyone seen Kate since Christmas Day?

Oh he (they) are just so bloody crass aren't they? They can't do anything with any grace or dignity.

And thick, really, to think announcing Harry Is On His Way is going to look anything other that exactly what it is. An Opportunity. It's so transparent. Did they really believe we'd all go ''ah bless Harry, he's such a good boy isn't he?''

🙄

You really must. Even if it's just for the 'dog bowl' incident 😂

So she went out did she - in her car

Yes and was callous enough to smile.

Maybe she is happy in the Land of Nod when Harry is away - gets a bit of a break.

It's well known that attention seeking famous people will inform who they need to, to get papped getting into the car or wherever

Of course it is, and since this was about Meghan for a change people forget the pap agency (Spike, I think?) being on hand for her walk in the woods and boat boarding when in Canada

Ironicallly these were the very people who Harry sued for snatching pics of their country hideaway, but then IIRC he awas away when the Canadian images were taken

I sometimes wondered if he'd been told, or if it was presented to him as "Oops, horrible paps!!"

Kate has had signficant abdominal surgery? I’m surprised anyone is not aware.

Yes and was callous enough to smile

Yes Meghan breaks cover from her hideout and is smiling .. callously.

Kate has had signficant abdominal surgery

Yes so we are told - she could have been hiding out too (like Meghan) .. since Christmas Day. No one knows if she’s dead or alive or if she will break cover. The UK media haven't got a photo of her yet.

Yeah I think that's the case. Harry is in the news because of Charles, so it'd be logical for the paps to hang around Meghan. The Mail have proved that papers are happy to buy photos!

I'm not a fan of Meghan but I don't like the hate being stirred up against her either.

I pretend not to read the Mail for morality but it does get the best gossip so whatever; I enjoyed the caption on a pic in the Meghan story “Meghan kept one hand on the wheel while with the other she sipped coffee”. Yes it’s called driving, generally advised to keep a hand on the wheel. She was “all smiles” which is one of two modes you’re allowed to be in pap photos: all smiles, or in a sombre mood. No in-between or nuance.

I pretend not to read the Mail for morality

Haha 😬. So does most of mn ;

A theory of mine that maybe he came across to sign the papers which remove him from the line of succession.

It's a long way to come for a half hour visit!

Was she "showing Harry what he was missing?